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Valkyrie
27th June 2002, 21:35
High court approves random drug tests in public schools


The Supreme Court approved random drug tests for many public high school students Thursday, ruling that schools' interest in ridding their campuses of drugs outweighs an individual's right to privacy.

The 5-4 decision would allow the broadest drug testing the court has yet permitted for young people whom authorities have no particular reason to suspect of wrongdoing.


It applies to students who join competitive after-school activities or teams, a category that includes many if not most middle-school and high-school students.

Previously, these tests had been allowed only for student athletes.

The decision will allow the broadest testing ever allowed by the court for young people who have given authorities no reason to suspect them of wrongdoing.

It applies to students who join competitive after-school activities or teams.

In the past, the tests have only been allowed for student athletes.

"We find that testing students who participate in extracurricular activities is a reasonably effective means of addressing the school district's legitimate concerns in preventing, deterring and detecting drug use," Justice Clarence Thomas wrote for himself, Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony M. Kennedy and Stephen Breyer.

The court stopped short of allowing random tests for any student, whether or not involved in extracurricular activities, but several justices have indicated they are interested in answering that question at some point.

The court ruled against a former Oklahoma high school honor student who competed on an academic quiz team and sang in the choir. Lindsay Earls, a self-described "goodie two-shoes," tested negative but sued over what she called a humiliating and accusatory policy.

The Pottawatomie County school system had considered testing all students. Instead, it settled for testing only those involved in extracurricular activities on the theory that by voluntarily representing the school, those students had a lower expectation of privacy than did students at large.


06/27/2002 13:34
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I Will Deny You
27th June 2002, 23:12
What bullshit! If the schools are worried that the Debate Team won't be able to do a good job representing the schools on the whole, they should pressure the president to stop giving tax cuts to the rich and start setting aside money for education and/or coming up with a workable plan to turn the nation's schools around. I know from first hand experience that it's not fun to teach students who are high, but schoolchildren would be better off if all of the money used on drug testing were used on new books. My proposal: Random drug testing of public servants.

Lindsay

antieverything
28th June 2002, 01:28
fuck them...I'm still going ahead with my lawsuit against my school system!

Moskitto
28th June 2002, 22:06
If you do sport then one of the things you have to get used to is, random drug testing. While schools are unlikely to be as strict. I know people who cannot take simple things such as sudafed and have to be prescribed special drugs for illnesses, they also have to watch how much coffee they drink.

Anonymous
28th June 2002, 22:14
Why is everybody so competitive at High School level?
Ive competed for a high school in England and its all basically a laugh. Perhaps in America you have something worth competing for.
You shouldnt be able to invade someone's privacy when there is so little at stake.

antieverything
28th June 2002, 23:04
The stupidest thing that they say is "because athletes expose themselves to communal undressing, they should expect a lessened right to privacy" BS...undressing with other people is nothing, I'm totally comfortable with that, but pissing into a cup to have it tested to see if you are breaking the law is pretty intrusive.

pastradamus
29th June 2002, 21:55
The drug tests are a load of crap sumtimes too.What happened if u was near a person who was smoking crak or sumthing? it wud be still present In ur body after six months,so does that make u a junky?

this is invasion of privacy...

Fires of History
30th June 2002, 01:32
Pastradamus,

Actually, most drugs don't stay in the body very long. In fact, pot is actually the longest visitor in your body at 4-6 weeks (http://www.marijuana.com/1b.php3). Even cocaine is only in your body about 2-4 days, and acid is impossible to find.

About the article. Yes, this is wrong. But only founded on another wrong, the so-called 'War on Drugs.' That war has been lost, but like all amerikkkan 'wars' they refuse to lose.

Police states are so safe.

Borincano
30th June 2002, 05:30
First I was all for drug-testing in schools. Drugs are destroying the USA and Puerto Rico, and if they catch them and put them in rehab (Not in jail!) and allow these people a second chance in life and not let this run it for them, then ok.

Although, many people take other legal substances that could interact with the drugs tests. Also, there are tecniques for altering a drug tests that many kid-junkies know. Also, second hand smoke from pot is a factor. I'm still for drug-testing in schools under strict rules on how to apply it and the consiquences for those who use drugs. Still, I would like to see how the drugs tests are going to applied and make sure that drugs are the only thing they're searching for in these peoples systems.

RedCeltic
30th June 2002, 06:24
Random drug testing will cut down on drug use like installing a police state would cut down on crime.

Some Americans today seem to want to live in the capitalist version of the soviet union.

peaccenicked
30th June 2002, 07:07
Do you get marks for being stoned?
But seriously is nt this just a big waste of time.
It smacks of appearing to do something and can easily be used to harrass minorities by any power tripping psycho cop/teacher



(Edited by peaccenicked at 7:19 am on June 30, 2002)

RedCeltic
30th June 2002, 07:19
It smacks of appearing to do something and can easily be used to harrass

Appearing to do something about drugs is exactly the aproach that the GOP has taken from stage one. Big talk, start a seperate organisation to fight it, name a few key targets, ( hey, this is starting to sound a bit like the war on terrorism isn't it?)

And in the end, don't blame the GOP for starving the project... wait untill the Democrats get in to say, "Oh look at the drug problem, They are soft on drugs!!"

The truth of the matter is, the war on drugs is a failed project that isn't worth anything but the votes it may win you for holding it's banner high yet again.

Stormin Norman
30th June 2002, 13:44
A horrible decision has been made. Many times the Supreme Court has come down on the wrong side of the drug issue. I dred that this desicion will open the doors to far more scrutiny of the students by the administration. This is a blatant disregard for the forth amendment. If somebody is doing a screen of my semen, stool, or urine it is an invasion of privacy. What ever happened to the old addage "innocent until proven guilty"? What is to stop the contractors, responsible for running the screens, from cataloging DNA? Ever seen Gattaca?