Stalingrad

[Zingu]

Anyone ever seen this movie? So far, it is my favorite war movie of all time. It breaks from the usaul "heroic allied soldiers" fighting the "evil scowling bad guy looking axis" and shows the story from a squad of Waffen-SS soldiers who fight in the Battle of Stalingrad, who then are surrounded and die off one by one during the winter of 1943.

My favorite scene would be when the germans dig in the foxholes and watch as the Soviet tanks approach them in front of them, how some are on the verge of panic, very good photography at that point.



10 out of 10 for this movie.

[RedAnarchist]

That sounds like a more original and different WW2 film, but from the point of view of most of the audience, wouldnt there be little or no sympathy for people who, brainwashed or not, fought for an evil man with evil ideas?

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Usually I am keen on some more realistic films. I really hate the propagandistic films, inwhich everyone on the other side is evil, speak english with a vey bad accent and ammo from the good guys never run out. But the late rise of nazism in Europe gets me worried tough. Bad timing.

[Zingu]

The word "Nazi" is used once in the whole movie, no rigid one arm salutes, its group of ordinary German soldiers who soon learn that the war is hopless as the Russian winter sets in, I suggest seeing it, it was filmed by a Russian and German crew as well.

[PRC-UTE]

. . . a squad of Waffen-SS soldiers . . .

. . . its group of ordinary German soldiers . . .

These two descriptions are completely contadictory. The SS were a highly favoured, and trusted wing of the Nazi forces. They were the ones running the camps. Don't ask us to feel sympathy for them; turn on this History channel if you want that.

[Zingu]

Its not about sympathy, Its just from the point of view from the german side, not all the Waffen SS were Nazis, one example was the SS-Division "Wiking" which later turned its own guns against the German Whermatch when the Lapland War broke out in Finland in 1944.
There were different segements within in the SS wing of the Whermatch, if I remember correctly, there was a special section that ran the death camps, I don't remember the German word for them unfortunately.

Anyways, I'm not saying the movie is sympatheic or trying to defend the SS, but the movie is a very good thing to see, it shows how the German soldiers become disillusioned of patriotism and their loyalty to the Reich as time goes on.

[Hiero]

What year was the movie made?

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

IMDB: Stalingrad (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108211/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj 0wfHE9c3RhbGluZ3JhZHxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=19; fm=1)

1993

[PRC-UTE]

Sorry, Zingu, I misunderstood. Sounds interesting I'll check it out.

[Guerrilla22]

The movie was made by the same guy that directed Das Boot and has a very similar concept.

[Saint-Just]

I thought the film was fairly good. The film certainly creates sympathy for the German soldiers, for example, scenes of them writing letters to their families etc.

I don't remember any portrayal of the racial views in the German army at that time, which would be inaccurate, although it is a long time since I saw the film.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

Sounds interesting, I think I'll try & rent it or something. On a side note regarding the Das Boat movie, it's been along time since I saw it, but I only have about 30 pages left in the book.

[bolshevik butcher]

Are there any similarfilms about the Russians or the Viet Cong?