Hypothetical Situation

[RedAnarchist]

Say i had a powerful bomb, and i could plant this bomb in the BNP/other Neo-Nazi organization's HQ, and i could detonate that bomb at a time when no civilian could get harmed by it, but the building would be destroyed, killing all the nazis within. Would that be considered terrorism or a legitimate attack on Neo-Nazism?

[STI]

Depends on who's doing the considering. I personally wouldn't call it terrorism (nor would Nazis, i think. They'd call it "Liberal red immigrants bullying freedom of expression"). The media might, though.

[RedAnarchist]

So, do you think that the media would brainwash the masses into thinking that the attack was just a cold-blooded mass murder, an act of terrorism? If this happened, how could any communists who did the bombing stop the media lies from being too effective?

[STI]

Maybe some people. Only for a bit, though. Once they find out that it was the HQ of "The British Nazi Fuckoff League" or whatever the hell they call themselves, most people will stop sympathyzing with the "poor, defenceless victims".

[RedAnarchist]

Well, in any case i would see the bombing as a small but effective attack on the BNP, especially if it eliminates the hardcore of the BNP.

[Monty Cantsin]

im not from GB but isnt the BNP geting attacked by the government over hate crimes and what not?

[Pawn Power]

Would that be considered terrorism or a legitimate attack on Neo-Nazism?

It's all relitive, one person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.

[New Tolerance]

...those poor helpless British Nazi Fuckoffs.... :(


:lol: joking

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I'm sure there are more effective way to discredit them than drawing attention to them with a bomb - you know, making them look as though they are such a threat that a bomb is necessary to combat them.
There are much more effective methods of undermining sad anachronisms like Nazis, and much more current and serious threats more worthy of being bombed.

[Hiero]

Just do it and find out.

[RedAnarchist]

Unfortunately, i have neither explosives nor the funding to do such an act - although if someone who did have these things would like to do it for the people, then they are very welcome.

[commiecrusader]

Originally posted by Monty [email protected] 20 2004, 01:07 AM
im not from GB but isnt the BNP geting attacked by the government over hate crimes and what not?
The BNP leader has been charged with inciting racial hatred, but him and the rest of those nazi scum are just making him out to be a martyr. They don't get any support from the government or the popular press, but they still manage to get some mindless drone supporters from somewhere lol. Probably blagging them from UKIP lol :lol:

[Wurkwurk]

Kinda depends if the nazi's inside where gonna harm anyone. You know, it is possible, if hard to believe, that nazis can be civilians too :angry:

I say live and let live, as long as they don't go harming people.

[h&s]

What would be the point of bombing the BNP? Our only interest is the working class, and bombing the BNP is not exactly helping them is it? Bombing the BNP is likely to increase their support, making it more likely that they, and fascism, will win - exactly against the interests of the working class.
Though after the revolution, explosives will be everywhere, and accidents do happen... :P

[Hate Is Art]

Is this like "my friend has a large ammount of explosives and my friend would like to know your opinions on the legality or blowing up a bunch of nazi"

[Palmares]

I thought Hitler was dead?

Anyway, strategically bombing such a place would be foolish at this time.

When they attempt a counter-revolution, then things will be different.

[Saint-Just]

Killing BNP members would have a next to nothing effect. The bomb would be more environmentally significant rather than anything else.

And, the BNP getting attacked by the government over race hatred is hardly surprising since the idea of a threat from white race hate organisations has existed in western governments for decades.

If you were going to bomb anyone I would suggest that it would have little effect. Whether one killed themselves or others, little would change.

[encephalon]

Regardless of whether the public thought the Nazis deserved it, I think it would further allow the idea to flourish that communism is an ideology of random attacks on innocent people, and I would imagine the media would construe it as such. Random acts of violence won't get us anywhere. The support of the one class that matters will. I think we should agitate, yes, but not to the point of alienating support by giving capitalists an excuse to demonize us.

You know, it's really too bad marxism and religion are at odds. We could get so much support just by infiltrating the catholic church. *AND* we could bomb the fuck out of anyone, and nobody would care because god is on our side.

[h&s]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2004, 06:09 AM
You know, it's really too bad marxism and religion are at odds. We could get so much support just by infiltrating the catholic church. *AND* we could bomb the fuck out of anyone, and nobody would care because god is on our side.
Please don't tell me that was serious. :(

[Karl Marx's Camel]

Would that be considered terrorism or a legitimate attack on Neo-Nazism?


What is the exact difference between neo-nazism and nazism?

[Comrade Mathew]

we should not consider bombin attacks untill we really have to ( a coup d'etat or whatever)

till than WE should show that we don't have to use these methods and that we are the correct side to chose

[encephalon]

Please don't tell me that was serious

No, I was just saying that if religion is involved, people will back anything, whereas it takes much coaxing, regardless of whether the move is good or bad, when religion is excluded.

People seem ready to do anything in the name of mythology, yet denounce reason and science more than anything. We've a lot of work ahead in changing that to the opposite..

[h&s]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 1 2005, 03:21 AM
we should not consider bombin attacks untill we really have to ( a coup d'etat or whatever)


A coup should never be attempted. A coup is a way of getting into power without the mass support of the proletariat. It is the proletariat that needs to get into power, so a coup would be pointless, and would just lead to a bureaucracy.

[Guest_The Quiet Revolutionary]

I would consider boming a Neo-Nazi an act of terrorism XPhile2868. As a Jew I would love nothing more than to see some Neo-Nazis turned into little pieces of bloody flesh for thier lack of common sense. However as a desciple of Orwell's philosophy I believe that commiting such an action against a group of people for thier political reasons discourages thinking about a certain philosophy. Discouraging thinking about it is an act of totalitarianism. Unless you suspect and have proof that the neo-Nazis are planning a terrorist attack of their own then you have no right to violate their right to "thought" or in this case giving up thinking by killing them for thier ideologies, again no matter how insane they are.

[Commie Rat]

neo is hardcore conservative aint it?

and a nazi is the same as a fash aint it?

[Hate Is Art]

Doesn't Neo just mean a new or kind of reformed idea of e.g. Neo Liberal or Neo Con.

Nazi is a type of Fascist which focuses mainly on the extintion of the Jewish race and promotion of the Aryan race, something not running throughout all Fascist regimes.

[trex]

Unless you knew the Nazis inside the building were plotting to kill people, there is no reason why you should blow them up. Live & let live.

[Commie Rat]

racism is a taint through all right wing pollitical groups tru ?
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