Arafat and Palestina - Is it right to move Arafat out from P

[Pepe]

Compañeros,

Today 24.06.2002 President Bush make public that Arafat should be taken out from Palestina leadership, Is it this right?

Why President Arafat should move out?

First of all Palestina should be recognised as a State, with right to self defence, to an army and with the possibility that the people decide which leader they want.

Leave your coments and arguments.

[RGacky3]

Arafat should stay, the only reason sharon wants him out is becouse he knows that if arafat is out palestine has no chance of creating a state. and Bush.......well.......you know. Any way, he has support of the people, he should stay, and Sharon should die painfully.

[Rob]

Arafat is by no means a perfect leader. However, Sharon is just as bad, if not worse. Both have committed acts that I would call terrorist. However, I think that Arafat is the only hope for stability that the Palestinian people have. Without him, someone from Hamas may take over. And that would set the peace process back 30 years.

[PunkRawker677]

who the fuck is president bush to tell a country that they NEED to get rid of their DEMOCRATICALLY elected president??? he makes it sound like Arafat is a dictator. Why doesnt he force Sharon to leave?

[Xvall]

Hang them Both!!

[Reuben]

IN my oipinion, Israel?America have used Arafat to make concessions on behalf of the Palestinian people, and now they are trying to get rid of him as he has gained too much legitimacy.


It is despicable. He is somebody, who , more than anyone has put himself on the line for a just peace.

[deimos]

let the palestinian people decide!

[Pepe]

PunkRawer677

You ask and with right, why nobody forces Sharon to leave. Well, in a way it seems for me obvious that it’s beneficial to U.S that the conflict in Middle East will continue. In a way we can say that Israel is the American hand in that part of the Globe and with out it they would have really big problems to find friends among the Arab world.
Keep also in mind that most of the Oil reservoirs are in the hands of countries in this part of the planet and Energy always plaid a big role in conflits.

Reuben

You say that Arafat gained to much legitimacy. I really don’t know. Arafat in the last years seems more tired than ever, his getting old and I’m really not sure if he’s the big head behind the Palestinian leaders, I really have my doubts about it. What he really is without anydoubts is a symbol that the Palestinian people will listen to, but this doesn’t mean that all the sectors of the Liberation Movements of Palestina will follow him. I believe that this has been one of the big problems to Arafat, is authority is recognized by the people but not really from other leaders.

Deimos

The Palestinians already decided that they want Arafat for their leader so there is nothing to argue against it. They talk about creating and recognise a provisory Palestinian territory where the borders will be later defined, although for this there is the condition that Palestinian must have other leaders.
Why Palestina needs other leaders to be recognized as a territory?

Recognize Palestina now, no conditions, if there must be a condition is to Israel that must leave Palestina. After Palestina be recognized than the International community can work together with Palestinians and Israel to finish with the Suicidal bombings. But don’t forget that for many Palestinians those attacks are the only weapon left for them.

[IrishRepublican]

Why is it up to the divied states of amerika if Palestine should be reconised as a state or not?

[Supermodel]

Of course Palestine needs statehood, I do think though, that there has to be a person of better quality than Arafat. He has failed to keep his word over and over again and the events of the last two months prove he is not in charge. I think his time had coem adn gone, he should not remain because of nostalgia.

Even if he is a reasonable leader, the crisis itself calls for new leadership to move this thing forward.

Bringing Sharon or Bush into the conversation doesn't really address Arafat's suitability to lead Palestine into the future.

[Pepe]

IrishRepublican,

Is not the divied sates od amerika, as you call them that must recognise Palestina as a state but all the international community represented in the United Nations, although don't forget that U.S. is one of the five countries with power of veto.
If I'm not wrong U.S.A, Russia, France, China and U.K are the countries with power of veto. In other words this means that without the agreement of U.S. Palestina will not be recognised as an Independent State in the U.N.

Look at the economic embargo to Cuba. Even that the vast majorty of the International Community today is in favor of finishing the embargo the U.S. keeps holding it's position and the embargo is still a reality.

[jimr]

It is insane. The man was democratically elected. It just goes to show that America has no real interest in Democracy and justs uses it when it can to put other states down. How can a country that promotes free speech, freedom of expression, force a country to make democratic reforms in order to be deemed reasonable. It is stupidity. It erodes the basic principles of American society. Let the people decide.

Arafat will remain in power, he has the support of the people and no one will stand against him. The Americans are simply trying to end the peace process before it begins.

[marxistdisciple]

Why should anyone, especially the united states have say in a palestinian state? People may agree or disagree with Arafat's leadership. so what. I'm sure plenty of palestinians don't believe in Bush's power to rule, but it isn't really anything to do with them is it?

I don't think he's a good president, but I have no say because I am not a US citizan. That's how democracy works. Bush should look it up. Arafat was at least elected democratically, unlike Bush. Basically america is saying, we agree with peace and democracy as long as we are allowed to dictate your leader for you!

Peace should be without stipulation from the US, who ought just agree with a palestinian state without conditions advantageous to the US. (America doesn't have to profit out of every political decision)

[Reuben]

interesting pattern here. Chavez and Arafat who were b oth elected are attacked as if they were dictators, while military dictator Musharaf is talked about as a key ally for the free world

[antieverything]

Arafat's only opposition was an old lady who endorsed him....some election!