Boycotts

[Hate Is Art]

Should we participate in boycotts?? I don't think they have a real effect on changing the way a business is run, they either fold and will just be replaced by another corp. doing exactly the same or just force the corp. to find a new exciting way to exploit the workers.

I don't think they achieve anything, but I understand it may be against someones ethics to buy something from a certain store.

[h&s]

Boycott Coca Cola for their systemised murder of Trade Unionist workers in Columbia.
Otherwise, boycotts are useless.

[NovelGentry]

Boycott Coca Cola for their systemised murder of Trade Unionist workers in Columbia.

They make it easy too because their products suck... hahaha

Seriously though, they do suck.

[Edelweiss]

I don't really believe in boycotts, "there can't be a right way to live in a wrong live" as Adorno has put it. Means: You cannot escape capitalism in a capitalist society.
There have been examples though of well promoted, short boycot media campaigns focused to force a company to do/not do something particular, just like the Greenpeace campaign which forced Shell not to sink an oil platform (the Brent Spar) in the sea instead of an more expensive disposal at land, there where so many car drivers actually just choosing another station after the daily reports about Greenpeace actions against the platform, that Shell had to vage out the loss that the boycots of thoasands drivers, in the end they decided not to sink the platform.

[KrazyRabidSheep]

Boycott Coca Cola for their systemised murder of Trade Unionist workers in Columbia.


They make it easy too because their products suck... hahaha

Seriously though, they do suck.

pepsi's bad enough. . .but coke tastes like battery acid. . .

i cant stand pop. . .i prefer sobe(bottled by pepsi-co). . .any brand that sponsors lacrosse is okay by me

[NovelGentry]

i cant stand pop. . .i prefer sobe(bottled by pepsi-co). . .any brand that sponsors lacrosse is okay by me

I stick mainly to juices and water myself.

[truthaddict11]

boycotting is pretty useless so eat those mcdonalds and drink coke, i do.

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 04:50 AM
boycotting is pretty useless so eat those mcdonalds and drink coke, i do.
Youre a big fan of heart attacks, clogged up arteries, weakened bones, rotted teeth and cancer then? :lol:

[Hate Is Art]

Youre a big fan of heart attacks, clogged up arteries, weakened bones, rotted teeth and cancer then?

Thats why I smoke.


There have been examples though of well promoted, short boycot media campaigns focused to force a company to do/not do something particular, just like the Greenpeace campaign which forced Shell not to sink an oil platform (the Brent Spar) in the sea instead of an more expensive disposal at land, there where so many car drivers actually just choosing another station after the daily reports about Greenpeace actions against the platform, that Shell had to vage out the loss that the boycots of thoasands drivers, in the end they decided not to sink the platform.

Thats good, but I don't see it as a permanent victory, Shell are still participating in the capitilist economic system. No real victory has been won.

[commiecrusader]

Boycotts are only useful if well co-ordinated and publicised, and only to create relatively small changes in company policy. Boycotts aren't gonna move society further left though.

[Guest_guest]

boycott are less powerful than censure,even here by che .lives ;)

[RedAnarchist]

censure - one of gaf&#39;s favourite words, i&#39;m sure. <_<

[X351912]

Due to the complete lack of organization (try to find out what unions are out on strike from the AFL-CIO), the Boycott has turned into a personal choice. Yet, we have all said, screw capitalism, and actively work to oppose it even through, just like a boycott the odds are insurmountable, and I doubt that we will see an end to it in our life times. The point being, is not important if we win the fight, but what we do in the fight. Nobody is perfect, and information is scarce, but if we all do our part we will put up a damn good fight.

[RedAnarchist]

Well said, but it doesnt matter if capitalism is overthrown in 10, 100 or 100 years time (although i&#39;m sure we all want it to come sooner rather than later) as long as we fight agasint it, we weaken it and bang more nails ino its coffin.

[vivalache22]

The only way we can tackle capitalism is if we stand united, otherwise we just look like unorganized ununited radicals

[Palmares]

Personally, I think it is good to boycott multi-nationals as much as one can, but since it won&#39;t bring down capitalism in itself, I don&#39;t go out of my way to avoid them.

They taste like shit anyway though. :lol:

[Hate Is Art]

Personally, I think it is good to boycott multi-nationals as much as one can, but since it won&#39;t bring down capitalism in itself, I don&#39;t go out of my way to avoid them.

I live in 3.40 an hour and in all honesty I don&#39;t have the money to spend on expensive food, it&#39;s pretty much my only choice. I couldn&#39;t afford to live on more expensive things which weren&#39;t made by small kids in indonesia or something.

They taste like shit anyway though.

I love Burger King and KFC.

[Palmares]

Multi-national food chains are deliberately cheap (though ever slowly increasing) so they can cater to the poor.

Oh, and I hate to admit it, but the one thing I do actually miss is KFC...

But I do have it on the extremely rare occasions.

My recommendation is to try to find small food joints that have similar food which in most cases is better. My problem is I know of very few, though in bigger cities it is different, so I eat pizza from this small pizza place all the fucking time. :)

[The Feral Underclass]

I agree principally that boycotts as a means of achieving change are useless, but for personal principle I simply cannot eat mcdonalds, or as h&s mentioned coca cola. After meeting people from the Columbian Solidarity movement and watching their films I just dont want any part of that company. It&#39;s a bastard because I like 7up, and sprite. I also dont buy from Marks and Spencers because of their links with the Israeli government.

But of course I dont condemn people for drinking cola or eating mcdonalds. It&#39;s just my personal choice not to. It also give a good opportunity to start a discussion on anti-capitalist issues etc...So boycotting can have its uses

[Hate Is Art]

My recommendation is to try to find small food joints that have similar food which in most cases is better. My problem is I know of very few, though in bigger cities it is different, so I eat pizza from this small pizza place all the fucking time.

I try to as often as I can, we have a great little independant burger bar near where I work so I go there a lot, but I&#39;m a sucker for KFC Chicken Strips.

[Palmares]

And I say damn those Zinger Burgers&#33; :angry:

[rahul]

BUT ITS ALWAYS BETTER TO AVOID CAPITALIST GOODS

I PERSONALLY USED TO BOYCOTT CAPPIE MULTINATIONALS BUT I AM FORCED TO USE MICROSOFT::;

AVOIDING IS NEXT BEST TO BOYCOTT&#33;&#33;

ANYHOW I AM STILL CONTINUING THE BOYCOTT WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS SUCH AS MICROSOFT..............

BOYCOTT AMERICA&#33;&#33;


SIMILAR TOPIC.., WHICH I HAVE POSTED B4

BOYCOTT AMERICA (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=24437&hl=)

[Hate Is Art]

BUT ITS ALWAYS BETTER TO AVOID CAPITALIST GOODS

That&#39;s impossible whilst living in the capitilist society we live in.

[commiecrusader]

KFC owns ass, specially Twisters oh yeah

And whoever said it is right about small restaurants similar bein the best. There&#39;s a well good pizza restaurant in southampton where me and a mate got two large and rockin pizzas for about 8 quid. That was royale. We haven&#39;t been able to find it again though, cos we were jus wanderin round randomly when we did find it.

[Hate Is Art]

And whoever said it is right about small restaurants similar bein the best. There&#39;s a well good pizza restaurant in southampton where me and a mate got two large and rockin pizzas for about 8 quid. That was royale. We haven&#39;t been able to find it again though, cos we were jus wanderin round randomly when we did find it.

Was the shop called Royale, I once found a Pizza Royale in Brighton and got pretty much the exact same deal.

And a zinger tower burger is pure heave, have you tired the new smokey bbq burger, thats really good.

and TAT, do you have any links about M&S - Israeli govt. relationship?

[rahul]

how are these ?

http://www.motherearth.org/USboycott/images/gui/bbDisc.gif

[Hate Is Art]

I smoke Marlboros and I couldn&#39;t boycott them If I wanted to.

[Questionauthority]

I think that RATM&#39;s song lyrics sum my position up best when I am questioned by my friends
"You say I make no difference, well at least I&#39;m F**king trying, what the f**k have you done?"

If anything you are confidently making sure you are not a customer/consumer to that company. As long as you do not buy from them they can never 100% corner the market.....
When most of the world boycotted the Apartheid regime in South Africa it added to pressure against the regime.....

[Hate Is Art]

Yes, but ultimatly it didn&#39;t bring down the regime, there are many more productive ways to show discontent for a system rather then boycotts.

[Questionauthority]

I did not say it ultimatley brought down the regime in my post but added pressure ;)

Indeed there are more productive ways, but why knock something so easy for people to carry out?

[Comrade Mathew]

I am pretty new to this topic and i really didn&#39;t use to think that much about the world. I&#39;m changing my live more and more away from the Me-thinking-consumer to the Us-thinking-consumer

caring more for the enviroment and also for other countries and people.

thanks for a basis to start my knowledge and what companies I shouldn&#39;t support&#33;

bzw. Boycott NIKE&#33;&#33;&#33;