Dali a fascist?

[Palmares]

I quite like surrealism (both in literature and art) and I was reading the wikipedia entry on surrealism when I discovered a section talking about it's links to anarchism. However, the point was made that Salvador Dali supported fascism.

Is this true? Did he support General Franco or something?

[RedAnarchist]

http://www.countercurrents.org/dali-navarro121203.htm

Sounds like he was.

[Agent provocateur]

Dali was a prankster. He was alternately fascinated by Hitler and Lenin and his paintings reveal as much. He said, "I am an anarchist and a monarchist." The guy was a loon but a great artist.

[Urban Rubble]

Dali was a prankster. He was alternately fascinated by Hitler and Lenin and his paintings reveal as much. He said, "I am an anarchist and a monarchist." The guy was a loon but a great painter.

Did you read that article ? I think sending congratulatory letters to Franco applauding his excecutions of political prisoners and pledging undying loyalty in prayer to Franco's ragime goes a bit beyond "prankster".

[nezvanova]

hahah thats a great joke, coming from dali. I wouldn't take anyone who makes lobster phones seriously, in a political sense. I adore dali though, he's fascinating.

[Agent provocateur]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 14 2004, 02:58 AM

Dali was a prankster. He was alternately fascinated by Hitler and Lenin and his paintings reveal as much. He said, "I am an anarchist and a monarchist." The guy was a loon but a great painter.

Did you read that article ? I think sending congratulatory letters to Franco applauding his excecutions of political prisoners and pledging undying loyalty in prayer to Franco's ragime goes a bit beyond "prankster".
Dali was a nutjob! He would date rich heiresses take them to his hotel room expecting he would seduce them in the typical romantic Latin/Spanish fashion. Instead Dali would fry an egg, place it gingerly on their shoulders and throw them out of his apartment. He was insane.


I remember reading an anectode of Dali and film mogul Jack Warner (of Warner Brothers in Hollywood). Warner commissioned Dali to do a painting of his wife. Dali obliged since the salary was generous. He did the painting and at a party when it was unveiled Jack Warner saw the painting which depicted his wife in amazing detail but in the background was an amazing picture of a monkey with facial features of Jack Warner locked up in a cage. Warner said quite uncomfortably, "I'm so glad to see I was included." Needless to say, the painting was never hung at the Jack Warner mansion.

Dali was a loon. How else can you explain how is autobiography begins. It starts, "Fortunately, I am not one of those beings who is apt when he smiles to expose ugly degrading spinach between his teeth. It is not due to the fact that I brush my teeth beter than anyone else ..."

And wasn't Dali friends with the poet Frederico Garcia Lorca who was executed by the fascists in Spain?

[PRC-UTE]

I remember reading an anectode of Dali and film mogul Jack Warner (of Warner Brothers in Hollywood). Warner commissioned Dali to do a painting of his wife. Dali obliged since the salary was generous. He did the painting and at a party when it was unveiled Jack Warner saw the painting which depicted his wife in amazing detail but in the background was an amazing picture of a monkey with facial features of Jack Warner locked up in a cage. Warner said quite uncomfortably, "I'm so glad to see I was included." Needless to say, the painting was never hung at the Jack Warner mansion.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

best laugh I've had all week. Reminds me a lot of the painter Goya, who was commissioned to paint a French emporer and rendered him and his family in a very unflattering way. Brillaint. :D

[Urban Rubble]

AP, the fact that Dali was insane and did some crazy things does not negate the fact that he repeatedly expressed his "undying loyalty" to Franco and actively worked with his regime.

[Hiero]

Who cares if he supported Fascism, you cant deny that what you see is good.

[Urban Rubble]

Well if you can show me where I said the fact the he's a fascist makes his art any less amazing your comment might be relevant.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I have to agree with Urban here, mates. (what's the world coming to!!??) =D

Insanity is no reason to refuse to condemn a fascist for what he truly is.
I think we can all agree that Hitler was insane, yes? Is he "just a loon"? I'm not saying that Dali should be held in the same regards as Hitler, but you see my point... If he had killed some people, which he fully condoned, would it have been different?

Besides, artistically speaking, I think Dali was just eccentric, not actually crazy.

[Hiero]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 18 2004, 07:28 AM
Well if you can show me where I said the fact the he's a fascist makes his art any less amazing your comment might be relevant.
I wasn't directing it at you , i was being general.


I think we can all agree that Hitler was insane, yes?

No, how was Hitler insane. He wrote a book explaining clearly his thoughts. Hitler wasn't medicaly insane he knew what he was doing.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Was Dali medically insane?

[Palmares]

You just said Dali was eccentric (albeit, artistically), so does that follow that you are implying that Hitler was eccentric too?

Well anyway...

Dali had some great art (however stereotypcally "surreal" it was).

But minus that, he was just a weird fascistic born-again Catholic (who somehow out of that was obesses about Freud - yet didn't seem to take notice of Freud's theories on God and neurosis... :lol: ).