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Subversive Pessimist
8th December 2004, 10:40
What does the symbol stand for?

Could somebody tell us about the origin of the red rose?

RedAnarchist
8th December 2004, 10:59
The rose, or rose being held in an hand, is a symbol of socialism - the red symbolises the blood of the martyrs. I assume this is why the red rose was chosen as symbol, beacuse it is red like the flag and red like the martyr's blood.

New.Art.Riot
8th December 2004, 13:15
It's a carnation and I think it was originally used by the Portugese Socialist party.

It is also used by the British Labour[sic] Party.

Conghaileach
8th December 2004, 15:26
I believe that the rose symbol developed from the slogan of early workers' movement (late 19th-early 20th century), "bread and roses". Meaning, we don't just want to exist/sustain ourselves, we want to be able to enjoy what life has to offer.

The rose continues to be used today by many social democratic/labour parties around the world, but it's not an anti-capitalist symbol.

Vallegrande
9th December 2004, 06:02
"Whose been painting my roses red!!!" -That Queen on Alice in Wonderland

praxis1966
9th December 2004, 06:47
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 09:26 AM
I believe that the rose symbol developed from the slogan of early workers' movement (late 19th-early 20th century), "bread and roses". Meaning, we don't just want to exist/sustain ourselves, we want to be able to enjoy what life has to offer.

The rose continues to be used today by many social democratic/labour parties around the world, but it's not an anti-capitalist symbol.
I would say that it's not necessarily an anti-capitalist symbol. SPF (the party I belong to) uses it and it's anti-capitalist. The Labour party in England may use it, but I pity the fool who thinks Blair is anti-capitalist. It's roots are socialist, as are the Labour Party's, even if Labour's politics no longer are.

Edit: I did quite a bit of searching on the 'net, and my best guess is that socialist parties sometimes choose it because it's long been considered a symbol of love and charity.

Vallegrande
9th December 2004, 19:35
I did quite a bit of searching on the 'net, and my best guess is that socialist parties sometimes choose it because it's long been considered a symbol of love and charity.

Yeh like that Queen. She had no love or charity remember? That's why she didn't want her roses painted red. I wonder If Lewis Carroll knew anything about the red rose, since he wrote a short part about it in his book.

RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
2nd January 2005, 04:50
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RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
2nd January 2005, 04:53
what is the symbol called???