Red Youth

[Wiesty]

Its finally here, over the past while me and a few guys have been putting together a site called Red Youth, for Leftists Teens. It has articles, news, Media which includes, red youth radio and red youth films.

Red youth radio- we are currently on our second recording, (the first two are just harrasing and pointing out how idiotic the people of storm front are)

Red Youth Films- Red youth films and Ben Gui Productions got together and made a 10 minute video called the bio of che guevara

The forums are almost up and are being completed.

If any help can be given, or if someone wants to join the admin or mod team please do, the help will be greatly apriceated

here is our site

Red Youth (http://www.red-youth.tk)

[BOZG]

I'm not trying to be mean but I have some criticisms of the site already.

For starters, half the pictures on the site are linked to someone's desktop so they can't actually be viewed.

And the grammar and spelling on the site is atrocious. :)

[Wiesty]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2004, 09:46 PM
I'm not trying to be mean but I have some criticisms of the site already.

For starters, half the pictures on the site are linked to someone's desktop so they can't actually be viewed.

And the grammar and spelling on the site is atrocious. :)
all the pics i click on dont go anywhere

[BOZG]

They don't appear for me. I just checked the link for them, it's linked to your desktop (if you're Dylan).

[Wiesty]

do you want to post a picture of what happens when u click

[BOZG]

That's what I see.

[BOZG]

There's the link to the picture. Nobody can access pictures on your desktop.

[DaCuBaN]

To give an example of the img ref you used:

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dylan/Desktop/commiesite/wipedout/images/star.gif

:D It's easily done, if you're not a webslinger.

[Wiesty]

i think i know the problem

back to the god damn drawing board

see ya when its done

[Wiesty]

after an hour in the ER with the site its all better now, there will be some more minor adjustements but its good, and the forum should be up asap.

[Orange Juche]

For some reason, the site isn't coming up for me. Hmm.

[Wiesty]

my site is up and running, and i updated a few things, plus the forums are runnin now. i am currently looking for moderators so if anyone wants to help pm me.

[Orange Juche]

On both me and my girlfriend's computer it says "red-youth.tk could not be found."

[Invader Zim]

I see you have sorted the pics out now.

Looks good, out of interest did you design that web site your self?

BTW is your forum issuing passwords via email properly, because I regestered and have yet to recieve an email.

[Mahir Çayan]

Excellent. Stalin is lumped with anti-Semites. Justify such an insult!

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Mahir Ç[email protected] 30 2004, 08:56 PM
Excellent. Stalin is lumped with anti-Semites. Justify such an insult!
Its hardly difficult: -

Stalin: -

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Stalin

Hitler: -

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Hitler

[Wiesty]

Originally posted by Mahir Ç[email protected] 30 2004, 07:56 PM
Excellent. Stalin is lumped with anti-Semites. Justify such an insult!
well, he did start the anti-semite commity post world war 2

[Mahir Çayan]

Originally posted by Wiesty+Dec 1 2004, 01:39 AM--> (Wiesty @ Dec 1 2004, 01:39 AM)
Mahir Ç[email protected] 30 2004, 07:56 PM
Excellent. Stalin is lumped with anti-Semites. Justify such an insult!
well, he did start the anti-semite commity post world war 2[/b]
Are you refering to the Jews that defected to the US after serving the USSR's Jewish population via an anti-Fascist committee during the Great Patriotic war or what? Please, present more than a one sentance post or are you going to Google for a page on the Ukrainian famine?



Its hardly difficult: -
Stalin was equally as brutal as Vladimir Lenin, Ernesto Guevara, Fidel Castro, et al. Lets not forget, apparently Stalin killed 100 million people. That is, by the way, over 70% of the USSR's population at the time. :rolleyes: If this possibly did happen, how was the USSR able to murder the Nazi-Fascist imperialist beast that invaded the USSR resulting in 20 million Soviet deaths? How was the USSR able to take on 70% of Germany's European land army with only a population of (since Stalin murdered 100 million) 30 million? Since 20 million died in the war, there was only 10 million Soviets left after the war. :unsure:

You do the math before you present something that came from the halls of Harvard or some anti-Communists such as Hearst or Conquest.


For both Enigma and Wiesty
- Lies Concerning the History of the Soviet Union (http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc9912/lies.htm)
- In Search of a Soviet Holocaust (http://www.geocities.com/redcomrades/sov-hol.html)
- Let Us Draw a Mark of Demarcation between the Truth and Falsification (http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc0108/truthfals.html)

Have the same respect that I have towards you and at least scan through the documents I provided.


-- Mahir.

[Wiesty]

you are a stalinist i assume?

[Mahir Çayan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 09:46 PM
you are a stalinist i assume?
"What is capitalism?"

:lol:

[Wiesty]

????

[Mahir Çayan]

This. (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=30649) You're a self proclaimed Communist without even knowing what Capitalism is, what a joke. Not only that, you do not address a previous post where I raised a point for you to a clarify yourself.

[Wiesty]

i do not consider myself a communist, i consider myself a socialist libertarian, there was a time when u did not know what capitalism was am i correct?
But now your defending stalin, and criticzing me for not knowing exactly capitalism is.
hmmm a Stalinist-Anti Lib. you seem pretty succesful

[Mahir Çayan]

You have still not justified your usage of the Trot mockterm 'Stalinist'. However, I will address your post, as am I a nice person.


there was a time when u did not know what capitalism was am i correct?
Yes, quite true indeed, however, I learned what Capitalism was before I declared myself Socialist.


But now your defending stalin, and criticzing me for not knowing exactly capitalism is.
What is wrong with such a thing?


you seem pretty succesful
I agree. Because, so far, you havn't address the orignal point I rasied in this thread in a comprehensive manner.

- Mahir.
Devrim ve Komunizm.

[Invader Zim]

Mahir Çayan I have read these articals before, and they are based only half truths, they take in some cases evidence from a source but ignore a contradictory one. The fact is that while little physical evidence exists to prove the mass murder suggested by political scientists and historians, the eye witness accounts, and data from the soviet archives allows one to speculate a figure. This suggests why the figures differ to such a great extent. However all are uniform in suggesting that Stalin was directly responcible for million to perish.

[Wiesty]

i knew what communism, and socialism, and libertarism and anarchism etc. were, and thats what i wanted to be? is that not good enough for making a decision? i sure as hell didnt want to be a right winger, which would include facism and anti-libertarism (your really aqauinted with that one)

[Orange Juche]

Site still isn't working for me... any idea why?

[Wiesty]

depending on ur browser settings, my site isnt a professional server, so it could block all like 3rd party sites are thigns. besides that i dont know

[Mahir Çayan]

is that not good enough for making a decision? i sure as hell didnt want to be a right winger, which would include facism and anti-libertarism (your really aqauinted with that one)

Of course I am against libertarianism (ie. classical liberals) because it is a laissez faire capitalist ideology with too much concern for property rights or are you talking about liberals nowadays?
Every Marxist-Leninist is opposed to libertarianism. Are you sure you even know what you're talking about?

Enigma
I do not deny that no one died because of the heavy hand of local officals or through Kulak terrorism for which the blame has been bestowed on Stalin. In fact, Stalin critisised local officals in his 'Dizzy with success' article which was published in the daily Prvada newspaper.

[Wiesty]

if u called believing in freedom of speech and actions a bad ideal or something u dont go by, then uve got some serious brain damage.

[Mahir Çayan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 02:27 AM
if u called believing in freedom of speech and actions a bad ideal or something u dont go by, then uve got some serious brain damage.
How can you be in favour of the myth of freedom of speech and an anti-Fascist at the same time? Surely you do not believe that those at *************** should be allowed to preach their madness.

Also, quite obviously, you do not know what liberaltarianism is. Perhaps you are confusing liberalitarianism with liberalism.

[Wiesty]

Libertarianism is what is what i said, might have misspelled or somtin,
anyways why must this arguing continue, this was just suppose to promote a site, not an argument over my ideals and beliefs

[Wiesty]

Originally posted by Mahir Çayan+Dec 4 2004, 12:51 PM--> (Mahir Çayan @ Dec 4 2004, 12:51 PM)
[email protected] 4 2004, 02:27 AM
if u called believing in freedom of speech and actions a bad ideal or something u dont go by, then uve got some serious brain damage.
How can you be in favour of the myth of freedom of speech and an anti-Fascist at the same time? Surely you do not believe that those at *************** should be allowed to preach their madness.

Also, quite obviously, you do not know what liberaltarianism is. Perhaps you are confusing liberalitarianism with liberalism. [/b]
and also. freedom of speech is allowed, but so is the right of not being verbally abused, it kind of intertwines there, so each ideal loses some

[BOZG]

Libertarianism = Free Marketism

Secondly, I'm damn fucking right against free speech, it's a priviledge, not a right.

[Orange Juche]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 08:50 PM
Libertarianism = Free Marketism

Secondly, I'm damn fucking right against free speech, it's a priviledge, not a right.
I personally wouldn't say I'm against "Freedom of Speech," there just must be limits to "Freedoms." Just like you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater, you shouldn't be allowed to publically use speech to work towards destructive and oppressive systems, like capitalism or fascism.

[Wiesty]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 07:34 AM
I personally wouldn't say I'm against "Freedom of Speech," there just must be limits to "Freedoms." Just like you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater, you shouldn't be allowed to publically use speech to work towards destructive and oppressive systems, like capitalism or fascism.
exactly what i said, freedom of speech is good, but it intertwines with other freedoms

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Libertarian is not per se free-market. There are libertarian-socialists and even libertarian-communists.


i consider myself a socialist libertarian

Funny that you say this, " its a good idea of libertarianism, but it just could not work (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29512&st=100&#entry478556)"

[Mahir Çayan]

Originally posted by Non-Sectarian Bastard!@Dec 5 2004, 04:23 PM
Libertarian is not per se free-market. There are libertarian-socialists and even libertarian-communists.


i consider myself a socialist libertarian

Funny that you say this, " its a good idea of libertarianism, but it just could not work (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29512&st=100&#entry478556)"
Yes, but refering to yourself as simply a 'libraltarian' happens to mean you are a disciple of that ideology. Use Socialist as a prefix at all times to avoid confusion and a broken face.

[ElKomunista]

UMMMMMMMMMMM You should all in my opinion go join the RedYouth forum

Just a thought :ph34r:

[Orange Juche]

Can someone post a link of the redyouth forum? The normal site for some reason doesn't work for me, but the forum might, and I'd be interested in joining.

[ElKomunista]

Forum Link

http://comradewiesty.proboards40.com/index.cgi?action=logout

[Wiesty]

currently working on new version 1.2 of the site