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Edelweiss
13th June 2002, 16:32
Massacre under Supervision of US
Documentary film producer proves mass murder and torture aimed at Afghan prisoners of war
by Wolfgang Pomrehn

November 2001 in the south-Afghan Kundus. Several thousand Taliban fighters offer embittered resistance to the troops of the northern alliance. Finally Amir Jhan, a local commander, negotiated the surrender, which takes place on 25 November. "We counted the prisoners. It was 8000. At Shebergan prison only 3015 arrived," tells the British journalist Jamie Doran.

What happened with the rest of them? Footage, which Doran presented to the press for the first time on Wednesday in Berlin says otherwise: Apparently up to 3000 of the missed ones were killed by the victorious troops, under the watchful eye of American soldiers in December. Doran has filmed in Afghanistan under most difficult conditions from November to April. He has among other things interviewed involved drivers, who showed his co-worker a mass grave in the desert at Dasht i Leili. Pieces of clothing rise up out of the sand, some bones lie about. Obviously, thus says Doran, dogs would have dug some corpses out of the ground. In addition, he has safe information that the proofs of these crimes are to be destroyed, and demands that the discovery site for the hearing of evidence becomes secured.

According to the statements, which Doran collected, the expiration presents itself as follows: About 400 of those arrested in Kundus were brought into the nearby fortress Kaala i Dschangi. There soon occurred a prisoner rebellion, which was bloodily struck down. Doran reports what footage he had already shown at that time: Many of the dead ones were bound around the hands.

The bulk of the prisoners were collected in and close to the fortress Kaala i Seini in the meantime, in order to be loaded into containers there. A procedure which many not survived: "I fired at the container, in order to create holes for the ventilation. Some of those on the inside were killed. Then we sent the containers on to Sheberghan ," states a soldier in Doran's film. Other eye-witnesses report how they saw blood seeping from the containers. Later from the prison in Sheberghan a part of the prisoner transports were sent into the desert, probably so that the corpses in the containers would not come under the eyes of journalists. But not all container passengers were already dead when they arrive at Dasht i Leili. Doran presents two eyewitnesses, which state that several hundred prisoners of war, who were not yet suffocated, shot or died of thirst were executed in the desert. Under the watchful eyes of "30 to 40 American soldiers," as a driver reports.

Doran also submits dramatic statements from the prison at Sheberghan: "I was witness, as an American soldier broke a prisoner the neck and poured acid over others,"a soldier states in front of the camera. Another reports of cutting off fingers and tongues. All of his witnesses, avowed Doran in relation to the press on Wednesday, are ready to state before an international tribunal.

Meanwhile the Netherlands parliament reacted with indignation to a bill of the US government, that says that the USA can intervene with military means, should citizens of the United States be accused at the international criminal court. Which is to take up its work on 1 July at the Hague.

First published by German newspaper Junge Welt (http://www.jungewelt.de).
http://www.jungewelt.de/2002/06-13/001.php
Translated using Babelfish (http://babelfish.altavista.com), revised.

Fatos Locos
13th June 2002, 19:27
This is just sick. I got no other words for it. Just sick.

Menshevik
13th June 2002, 19:29
Fucking hell, I was certain that something like this was going to happen. The Northern Alliance was no doubt pissed off at the Taliban, but that doesn't give them the right to torture and maim. I'm a bit unclear though, does it say that American troops partook in the violence or just allowed it to happen? I know that the CIA agents sent to Afghanistan were meant to interrogate and torture prisoners. That "hero" CIA spook killed in the prison riot had just finished interrogating (torturing) some prisoners. That whole situation is terrible. I'm willing to believe that atrocities were comitted, but I cannot believe that 5,000 people were killed on top of thousands more tortured.

Anonymous
13th June 2002, 19:52
it is just sick, i cant understand how they get away with it.

Blasphemy
13th June 2002, 20:04
they get away with it because they basically control the media around the world.

Anonymous
13th June 2002, 20:21
i know. they dont even answer to the world court.

hobo
13th June 2002, 20:50
i think this sort of massacare is expected when you suddenly over-throw a goverment and supply their enamies with modern weapons.

Lakay
14th June 2002, 04:39
Hey malte. pls delete my post in, practice_learn from a guerilla. Some pigs are monitoring my post here. Delete it as soon as posible

Angie
14th June 2002, 05:24
The late United Front / Northern Alliance's leader, Ahmed Shah Massoud, was a known Socialist, quite possibly a communist (he openly stated on several occasions that he'd studied Marx, Lenin, Mao, Guevara for guerilla warfare and political ideas - actually thought that Guevara was a bit soft and found more of interest in Mao). He was extremely aware that his men were hard to handle and that he was the only one who could keep them from practically destroying their own country.

He was killed exactly 2 days before the Sept-11 attacks. Before Sept-11, America had plans on invading Afghanistan, and directly after Sept-11 they made those plans known to the entire world. They had every intention of utilising the UF for their own means - getting someone else to do the dirty work as it were, because the UF had a track record of high levels of violence (in some cases, outright genocide) towards their enemies - something that Massoud had tried to keep from flaring up as best he could.

It's obvious to see why he was murdered when he was - he would never had let the UF do as much damage as they have now done. He would have been the thorn in the U.S's side.

He also had said often that he didn't want invading forces in his country, only financial and humanitarian aid. That certainly wouldn't have gone down well with the U.S.

RIP Massoud. The Che Guevara of his time.

I Will Deny You
16th June 2002, 18:49
Angie, while the Northern Alliance was better than the Taliban, they weren't exactly menschy guys. (I don't think I'd even be allowed to say "menschy" under the Northern Allinace!) There were a whole bunch of terrorists in the Northern Alliance, and many people have switched back and fourth from the Taliban to the Northern Alliance, and vice versa. They're the lesser of two evils, but they're no Che Guevaras. I understand that the leader can't be held responsible for the rapes and murders committed by his followers, but Che would have dealt with them much more harshly.

But going back to the original massacre . . . this is inexcusable, but I'm not surprised that it happened. Europeans and such probably won't be surprised by this, but in my shitty American history textbook, massacres committed by American soldiers in Vietnam were explained away by excuses that Nazis gave in the Nuremberg trials! This is probably how this massacre will be explained if it is ever addressed by some army alter kocker. (To be fair, the textbook I had is probably 20 years old by now.)

Lindsay

revolutionary spirit
16th June 2002, 19:32
this is from the Sunday Mirror a newspaper here in England.

'AMERICA TORTURED TALIBAN'
AMERICAN troops cut out the tongues of Taliban prisoners and poured acid over their heads before ordering their deaths, a TV documentary claims.

The film Massacre At Mazar claims that the soldiers orchestrated the mass slaughter of al-Qaeda fighters during an uprising at the prison following the bloodiest battle of the Afghan war, at Mazar-e-Sharif.

One Northern Alliance soldier says in the film: "The Americans did whatever they wanted. We had no power to stop them.

"I was a witness when an American soldier broke one prisoner's neck and poured acid-like substances on others."

Another witness claims four prisoners were beaten unconscious by US soldiers, then disappeared.

He says: "They cut their hair and poured acid or something on to them. They were screaming and jumping up and down. They had a black stick and beat them."

The US and Northern Alliance have always denied claims of a massacre at the Qala-i-Janghi fortress in Mazar-e-Sharif.

The evidence of new atrocities comes after the Sunday Mirror published pictures of the horrific treatment of Taliban fighters held at another camp, Shibarghan - dubbed the Afghan Auschwitz.

The film, made by British producer Jamie Doran, and shown to the German parliament last week, also tells how 8,000 Taliban prisoners were rounded up and transported in metal containers to Shirbaghan.

A driver of one of the trucks says many prisoners died of thirst in the stifling containers.

Another witness admits to accidental fatalities when he shot holes in the side of containers to allow prisoners to breath.

He says: "They were crying for air. I hit the side with bullets to create air - and some were killed."

And two men claim they were forced to drive hundreds of Taliban into the desert where they were shot while up to 40 US soldiers looked on.

The film is based on testimonies from six witnesses, including a senior army officer. All have agreed to give evidence at any future war crimes tribunal.

Last night human rights lawyer Andrew McEntee, former chairman of Amnesty International UK, called for the allegations to be investigated.

He said: "These alleged crimes would carry a life imprisonment in many countries."

A US Army spokesman said later: "We have been asked about allegations that Taliban prisoners were executed while US special forces soldiers stood by and watched. We checked and didn't have anything to substantiate those allegations."