People's orthodox movement

[man in the red suit]

I basically wanted to see what all of you had to say about the people's orthodox movement in Russia during the late 80's and early 90's. These were the "communists" that blamed all of their problems on the Jewish population. I hate them, being a Jew myself.
How can you be a communist and rascist? This is fascism. They believe in the well being of the majority as opposed to the whole. I would not consider these people to be communists. Would you? I want to know.

If you want a little backround on the People's orthodox movement, I have a section of the book I'm reading that deals with it. Here is a passage:

"On June6, 1990, at the Red October cultural hall in Moscow, seven hundred members of something called the People's Orthodox Movement met, and the level of hatred was startling. 'We declare that the Jews bear collective responsibility for the genocide of the Russian people and other peoples of our country!' said one speaker, Aleksandr Kulakov. 'And we demand that the Jews be forbidden to leave the country until a tribunal of the Russian people decides their fate. We express solidarity with the Arab world, which struggles with this evil! We also express solidarity to the German people. The Jews were never victims of the German people. The German people were victims of the Jewish deception!'

that was a quote from the author of the book, Lenin's Tomb, quoting the spokesman from the People's Orthodox movement. I don't know about you guys but this disgusts me personally. I would hang this guy up by his neck and let him strangle to death. There is no expressing my hatred towards this "movement.

I am sick of the stereotype that the Jewish people have been wrongfuly cast under. There are people other than Jews who are just as greedy.

so what are your opinions?

(Edited by man in the red suit at 11:44 pm on June 12, 2002)

[Xvall]

They're not communists..
Just like Hitler and Mussolini weren't Socialists..
And Stalin wasn't a Communist..
They're idiots, who would rather put their own goals ahead of the proletariot. They are the real enemies of the people..

[Rob]

yeah, Drake said most of what needed to be said, but you wouldn't happen to know if they're related to the National Bolshevists would you? they're a similar group.

[Kez]

orthodox, is this related to the church?

which would explain a lot really, considering they wouldnt be communists and indeed see Judaism as competition.

Anyhow, even if they do go under the name of communists, then doesnt mean the people were communists, in fact im sure they werent.

Ditto with Drake

Comrade Kamo

[man in the red suit]

they have nothing to do with the national Bolsheviks that I am aware of. Although I hate the national Bolsheviks equally. And no, the people's orthodox movement has nothing to do with the church even though it has the title "orthodox" in it.

exactly drake,

i was thinking the same thing :)

[Blasphemy]

they are communist, hitler was a socialist, and bush is a human rights activist.

[Reuben]

Sound like absolute bastards. Unfortunately there is also anti-semitism in the mainstream communist party.

Kamo is right, the Russian orthodox church have been notoriously anti-semitic, encouraging alot of the pogroms in pre-revolutionary days. Though it seems from what MITRS says they regard themselves as communists. They wouldnt be the first 'commmunists' to be anti-semitic, just think about stalin.

[I Will Deny You]

I've got a question, since I'm not especially familiar with contemporary Russia: Do they think that anyone born into a Jewish family is inherently greedy, or do they blame the religion itself? And please don't be insulted if you answer this question and it takes me a while to thank you, because I've got my hands full with controlling the media and weather and government and all.

Toodles,
Lindsay

[Xvall]

Well Blasphemy, I don't think any of those people follow their political alignment very well. Hitler was a major supporter of capitalism, while mussolini didn't seem to represent any elements of socialism at all to me. If they were what they claimed, then they were really bad examples of it..

[honest intellectual]

Quote: from Drake Dracoli on 5:58 pm on June 13, 2002
Well Blasphemy, I don't think any of those people follow their political alignment very well. Hitler was a major supporter of capitalism, while mussolini didn't seem to represent any elements of socialism at all to me. If they were what they claimed, then they were really bad examples of it..
That was his point

[Xvall]

Oh! He was being sarcstic.. Sorry.. I overlooked the Bush part..

[man in the red suit]

IWDY,

I think it is wrong to think that anyone is inherintaly greedy. Greed must be learned. Nobody is born with it.
The problem is that greed is so easily and quickly discovered that one might as well in fact be BORN with greed. The other problem is that capitalism is a major catalyst for the discovery of greed. More people in America and other capitalist societies are more familiar with greed than those of the third world. I would argue that those in America are more greedy than those in Cuba. But I am getting off topic. The point is that Jews are no more greedy than anyone of any other religion.