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parecon3
18th November 2004, 00:33
Have any of you seen A Clockwork Orange or read the book?

Well, everytime I watch that movie or read the book(which has a chapter not in the movie) I find myself admiring Alex, which I hear that Anthony Burgess and Stanley Kubrick did not expect from the wide array audiences that admired him also.

Alot of the time people tell me that Alex is evil, but I think probably got that way through some unknown factors since his parents were real goody-goodys. Maybe the allure of vast array of other teens (he is 15 in the book) who were commiting acts of violence made him want to commit violent acts. There is also his drug use when he commits acts of violence; Alex drinks Moloko (milk) with drugs such as vellocet, synthemesc, drencrom or knives. But, he is the leader of his gang of droogs so its hard to tell what made him the way he is.

Raisa
18th November 2004, 02:49
:lol: what a strange movie.

parecon3
18th November 2004, 03:47
If you have not seen the movie, watch the trailer here (http://www.movie-list.com/c/clockworkorange.shtml)

Then click on Quicktime Trailer.

rebelred
18th November 2004, 04:56
yeah droogie, pretty good movie, I've never read the book though but in that last chapter, doesn't he decide to become a good person at the end?

komon
18th November 2004, 11:33
Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2004, 04:56 AM
yeah droogie, pretty good movie, I've never read the book though but in that last chapter, doesn't he decide to become a good person at the end?
no. he ís just please the brainwashing didn't work,and to be alex again

Fidelbrand
18th November 2004, 12:49
It was kind of sad that people still rejected him after he was "transformed" ~

parecon3
18th November 2004, 13:51
yeah droogie, pretty good movie, I've never read the book though but in that last chapter, doesn't he decide to become a good person at the end?

Yes in the end we see that he has a new gang of droogs and he gets tired of doing the same old ultra violence, so he leaves his droogs for the night and starts thinking about what he will be like when he is alot older, and he starts thinking about getting married. He then comes to a place where he sees one of his old droogs, Pete, is having coffee with his wife. Alex gets suprised by this and talks to Pete for awhile and then when he walks out of the mesto he thinks about how little he has achieved compared to Beethoven and Mozart when they were his age (he is 15 at the beginning of the book and 18 at the end) so he wants to change his ways and not be a clockwork orange and get married and have kids and all that cal.

The last chapter was not included in the old American Version because the editor must have not liked the idea of Alex changing and be all good later. Its also not included in the movie since Stanley Kubrick used the American Version.
You can read the last chapter: here (http://www.geocities.com/malcolmtribute/aco/21stchapter.html)

There is a new american version that has the last chapter out you can go here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0393312836/qid=1100789521/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-2406988-0368634?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) to buy.
Its real horrorshow, viddying all the bezoomny pages of this book.

Djehuti
19th November 2004, 06:45
I love the movie, damn cool! I love most of Kubricks movies, he is one of my favorite directors.

mentalbunny
28th November 2004, 18:00
I haven't seen the film but I've read the book and I love it. I'm planning on re-reading it soon. I also read a really good introduction about it, about it being published in the US without the last chapter, and about Kubrick's film and Burgess hating it.

Strange
28th November 2004, 19:23
"There was me, that is alex. And my three droogs that is pete , georgy, and Dim. We were sitting at the kerova milk bar making up our resoodocs of what to do with the evening".

rebelred
28th November 2004, 19:30
I love that bands that are based on A Clockwork Orange....like lower class brats and The Adicts

fernando
28th November 2004, 21:01
I love the whole Russian/English slang, very twisted!

rebelred
28th November 2004, 21:50
see, I just love the intro to this bands site....

http://www.lowerclassbrats.com

The theme music to A Clockwork Orange absolutely kicks ass, but I can never find the actual soundtrack

Agent provocateur
29th November 2004, 14:04
If you lewdies have not yet viddied this film in the sinny then itty to your domy and viddy it in your telly. Or better yet read the book on your oddy knocky. Be sure you pony the nadsat.

http://soomka.com/nadsat.html



http://www.imps4ever.info/specials/centaur/durango2a.jpg



http://perso.wanadoo.fr/chabrieres/clockwork_orange/moloko.jpg

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/chabrieres/clockwork_orange/rape.jpg

celtopunk
1st December 2004, 01:48
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2004, 09:01 PM
I love the whole Russian/English slang, very twisted!
Eggiewegs is a favorite of mine. I also seem to remember gloviewovies for gloves or did I just make that up myself.

I convinced my friend to rent it back in high school. I remember his mother decided to watch it with us. That was a bit uncomfortable. I tried to explain the social commentary but she wasn't having any of it.

MexicaMetzli
1st December 2004, 17:45
One of my favorite films of all time! Stanley Kubrick is a Winner!!

rebelred
2nd December 2004, 04:44
mmm the adicts

cubist
2nd December 2004, 18:57
one of my favourite films of all time even if it is twisted as fuck

SittingBull47
9th December 2004, 12:27
I read that after I read "A day in the life of Ivan Denisovich". It was cool because I recognized alot of the russian (russian/etc.) slang.

yea, very interesting book alright.