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xmostynx
16th November 2004, 16:15
**i'm just letting you all know...this may seem a little unorganized...but i just woke up...and i felt no need to organize my thoughts...here they are..just as i thought them**

so here i've come, i'm new i just got my account set up, so greetings to everyone.
Let it be known that i'm not a great fantastic scholar nor do i feel the need to be. Im a highschool grad working on a video production associates, i guess i must keep my information limited here because of Nazi groups collecting information.

The first point i would like to bring up or discuss rather, is the fact that here most people agree that capatalism is cranked out, we have a few rich white dudes, running the show....whats new?

my current situation is pretty rough, trying to put myself through school and then being handed hospital bills that reach as high as $1300(american) for my shoulder being dislocated...and we elected bush...again...heh...

by the way i'm still proud to be an american...why?
its not because i have a 1 in a million chance of making alot of money...
no...i prefer to keep to a minimum my material items in this world...

..why? because at one point in time...we had people leading this country in a good direction...we welcomed ideas of revolution...a new change...we continued to change...we freed the slaves...we where making progress...slow..but progress
nobody can deny that...

today...we murder the very kind of people that set this country in motion...the very kind of people that wanted to see a 'better world.....a better america'

now let me say...not all men or women are honorable in every aspect of their life...

*examples*

thomas jefferson.....had slaves....talked about equal and free men....

che guevera....wanted to further mans development....divorced...and used force to push his ideas...

and i'm sure this will raise a few heads...

osama bin laden...the most wanted man in the world right now...
he used force to get back at america for their actions in backing jewish interests..

in all of these cases people are trying to change something...something they felt was wrong or is being done wrong to them and their people...they wanted better

i'm still proud to be an american...because this country was founded on being rebels...we broke away from the norm...said fuck you...and did things our own way....my 'history' makes me proud..

when america started working as imperialists...then shit went bad...

the whole point of this...if this makes anysense....my head feels like its going to explode i have been thinking so much...

that how the hell can we want change? when we still go to the malls...still go to mcdonalds?...and still spend fat greedy money everyday...why?

however...if we want change...picking up a gun and screaming revolution and shooting down cops isn't going to get you anywhere...

picking up a gun and being violent...is never a way to win the hearts of anyone..
its easier to scare the hearts of people than to win them...
i think its most important to want change from within...we have to feel the need for change in our hearts...as rediculous as this sounds...i'm hoping someone will hear me out...

communism/democracy/monarchs....its all a bunch of jack

we as people shouldn't need a figure above us...a 'big brother'

can't we go to work....better our childrens education...provide fucking health care to everyone who needs it...a simple bus pass to a poor student..a meal plan...

the basic needs of life...we are a 'developed people' correct?
then why the hell do people have million dollar salaries...and a family of four
has no father...and is forced to purchase goods with food stamps?....
is it this hard to provide for the people that keep life moving?

i'm sad at this...but i'm still proud...because i can feel this kinda change that needs to take place in the very pit of my existence...

there is alot of things out here in life that i'm now noticing...and i'm disgusted by them...

turn off your televisions..
stay out of the malls..
get your mind out of the gutter...

all i wanted out of life was to be educated....and be in love..

when i realized how hard this world made those 2 (at the time) simple goals...
i began to feel my core change inside...

does anyone else feel me?

why can't i go and sit down...and discuss ideas and talk to MY 'leaders' about what i want done...why?? i weigh 120lbs...i'm like 5 7 i'm small as hell and i pose no threat.....but still i would have to write a letter..that will never find its way to my senators or presidents eyes...

so they have turned their backs on us..
america is being blindly led....are we ever going to wake up?
....the television gives us hope...while our relations die with every second we watch that fucking thing...

i just hope someone out there is feeling this...or else..

i think i'm doomed :blink:


peace everyone..did i just ramble or what?

cubalibra
16th November 2004, 16:48
Hi there. I am a new member here and an American as well. I have some years on you, but I thnk you are on the right path and are very intelligent. At your age, I was just happy to be chasing skirts and never gave politics a second thought.

The pride you have in the country is understandable, because I think everyone has a certain amount of pride for the area they were born in. I spent a lot of years after my schooling, studying history and current events, and I came to the conclusion that my teachers just told a bunch of lies to me.

Look back on the American history and you will see after Columbus arrived here, 50 million native americans were slaughtered. After that, we shipped over and slaughtered 50 million african slaves. Lincoln abolished slavery for economal reasons.

Look into Dresden, Gulf of Tonkin, United Fruit Company, Cambodia and Laos to see how American injustice has continued. I have pride in the fantasy of America and hope to make it a reality someday. You are right in that an armed revolution willl not be the answer. We have to make our case known by shining the spotlight on injusticed caused by the US and the Bush administration in particular. This could lead to massive demonstrations and peaceful civil disobediance that will hurt the wealthy in their wallets. Only then will the people be able to have a voice.

cubalibra
16th November 2004, 16:48
Hi there. I am a new member here and an American as well. I have some years on you, but I think you are on the right path and are very intelligent. At your age, I was just happy to be chasing skirts and never gave politics a second thought.

The pride you have in the country is understandable, because I think everyone has a certain amount of pride for the area they were born in. I spent a lot of years after my schooling, studying history and current events, and I came to the conclusion that my teachers just told a bunch of lies to me.

Look back on the American history and you will see after Columbus arrived here, 50 million native americans were slaughtered. After that, we shipped over and slaughtered 50 million african slaves. Lincoln abolished slavery for economal reasons.

Look into Dresden, Gulf of Tonkin, United Fruit Company, Cambodia and Laos to see how American injustice has continued. I have pride in the fantasy of America and hope to make it a reality someday. You are right in that an armed revolution willl not be the answer. We have to make our case known by shining the spotlight on injusticed caused by the US and the Bush administration in particular. This could lead to massive demonstrations and peaceful civil disobediance that will hurt the wealthy in their wallets. Only then will the people be able to have a voice.

Viva the spirit of El Che!

gaf
16th November 2004, 17:10
i just don't like to repeat myself but nothing is white and black we are all grey and muddy......we are the most paradoxal beeing on this piece of rock.....
i mean i saw good people becoming bad. i saw bad people becoming good.....
welll all you do. is up to you ......illusion or not ,it is what you are........be good be yourself......and the day you die (because this is the only sure thing in this world ) you will know that you don't.......know ;)

xmostynx
16th November 2004, 18:19
i'm sorry but i cant' just live...and accept the fact that i don't know..

when i die i hope to meet whoever made me...and us
and i hope that being or thing that created my soul
looks at me with a loving smile...
i wasn't created to sit still, and be silent
i believe my insides hurt for a reason
if anyone can agree your soul and guts speak to you

there are plenty of people around me to give this life some meaning...with the same ideas and same hope for people in the future...we can't forget the fact that we are all people...we all have feelings..we all have blood and brains...

i can't live a life of pleasure

if we live to just please ourselves...then whats the point of living?

to merely find something that gives us pleasure?

that would be rediculous and almost like...pointless...

this isn't a land where no society exists..and a land where we run around hunting animals anymore...

we developed...

so now we have to figure out how to live our life...with other people around...peacefully...

whats the point of learning about our bodies...how complicated and intricate they are...

to just pleasure them? man faces problems...we always have...

either it be...to learn how to destroy disease...or what tool to use to get corn into the mouths of hungry...

if i was to run around this world...like the post earlier said...chasing skirts...
it wouldn't let me sleep any better at night..knowing someone elses stomach is hurting for food...

we make plenty of food to feed everyone in this world...to even let our dogs and animals eat good...
but still we have hunger..? do you see what i'm saying?

there is enough 'wealth' to set every single family up decent..food in the fridge.. mom and dad home at the dinner table...discussing their childs day...

instead...we choose to live..mom and dad having radical hours at radical jobs...
not enough money...which causes tension in the house...young children seeing mom and dad fight it out because of money...and money ultimately being a huge factor in court after the divorce because mom can't support the 2 kids without some of dads imcome...

what the fuck is that?!

do you think our american leaders care? or for that fact...world leaders...world leaders dont' care....why? because world leaders have money...all leaders have money...


...they are to worried about their stocks..
maybe the lines going up their nose..and the cute little strippers they are sticking dollar bills to..

when will we elect someone who worked at mediocore jobs...for minimum pay with good ideas for the presedency?....huh? a REAL american...not a son of a wealthy man..

i'm just disgusted...what the hell have we become?

the divorce rate is over 50%...and they are trying to say they are protecting the 'sanctity' of marriage by outlawing gays and lesbian marriage...

what about the television shows like....my big fat obnoxious husband...or the one where they swap wifes...

tell me thats not promoting the sanctity of marriage

there is this machine head song...for anyone who likes machinehead...
and it starts out with

'america needs some sort of radical change'

and those words are just..so true..


living a life or pleasure has gotten us to this point...look where we are...

how can you think pleasure when you know there are kids...fucking kids who have no idea whats up in this world

idalizing the new image on tv or a rap star..or rock star..who is talking about his '*****es' or his 'hoes' and flashing his huge wad of cash..

wake the fuck up...

13 year old girls dressing to impress...sick


what can we do? there is no sort of organization to end any of this...
we just continue to ***** and ***** about our lives..
and i must say i do alot of *****ing

but i'm willing to quit school tomorrow and work towards a common goal to better the people

but still the red cross doesn't want me...because i dont' have a masters or a bachelors degree..
and big brothers and big sisters...in pittsburgh

pittsburgh-one of the wrost cities in america...they still haven't called me back..

rediculous-this world is comming to be

gaf
16th November 2004, 18:40
rediculous-this world is comming to be


no it is now. and later? only you can change it.

xmostynx
17th November 2004, 21:59
what can we do tho?

nobody is willing or organize anymore...
the pleasures that we see everyday make people slaves to this machine

all these people here in this community and how many of them do you actually think would organize and do something?

do you think there is opportunity here in america?