Finally, protestwarrior and racism

[Subversive Pessimist]

We've long talked about those at protestwarrior as some sort of fascist racist bunch. I searched for protestwarrior on google, and look what I found:

Stormfront White Nationalist Community - Protestwarrior



Hi,

allow me to introduce myself: I'm a long time member of the Protest Warrior board, which some of you have been visiting recently. I must say, I'm quite taken with your perspective on things, especially concering the future of our beautiful white race. I know for a fact that I'm not the only poster at this board that feels that way
I'm just beginning to learn all about the plight we, the white race, are enduring, so I'm not very useful for "converting"
Yes, this board is pretty much "Pro Israel", but then again, most users couldn't care less. It's just a few outspoken supporters, most of them Juden themselves.
So, what I'm asking you to do is to continue your presence at Protestwarrior.com. Leave Israel out for now, they are not ready for that yet.
A lot of the regulars are pretty young and easily impressed, "misguided" in other words. It shouldn't be too hard to get them to see the true agenda of the Juden.
We must choose our words carefully though. Please don't miss this great opportunity!!!


http://www.***************/forum/showthread...282#post1346282 (http://www.***************/forum/showthread.php?p=1346282#post1346282)

[Bolshevist]

I'm not shure if we can know if some high-profiled protestwarrior actually wrote this, but if he did they I'd say good job finding it, Strawberry :)

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 02:15 PM
We've long talked about those at protestwarrior as some sort of fascist racist bunch. I searched for protestwarrior on google, and look what I found:
So if someone from stormfront shows up on this forum and posts something, does that mean that Che-Lives is therefore a fascist website and all of you are fascists too ?

Oh wait a minute, one did just a few days ago. :rolleyes:

[DaCuBaN]

So if someone from stormfront shows up on this forum and posts something, does that mean that Che-Lives is therefore a fascist website and all of you are fascists too ?

You misunderstand: The scenario is one of stormfronters taking sides with protestwarriors. It's a logical allegience, I must admit.

[Xvall]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 26 2004, 01:59 PM
Oh wait a minute, one did just a few days ago. :rolleyes:
Yeah, I think his name was "Professor Moneybags" or something. That guy sucked.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I actually used to know a fella who was openly a nazi and also called himself a Republican. You guys need to bite the bullet and face it. You're fucking fascists.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 08:39 PM
I actually used to know a fella who was openly a nazi and also called himself a Republican. You guys need to bite the bullet and face it. You're fucking fascists.
Gee, what an incredible debate.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 07:29 PM
You misunderstand: The scenario is one of stormfronters taking sides with protestwarriors. It's a logical allegience, I must admit.
I once heard Nick Griffin from the BNP on the radio saying that he sympathized with the anti-capitalist marchers. What conclusion am I to draw from that ?

People all have their own agendas.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Gee, what an incredible debate.

It wasn't an argument, dumbfuck.

If you wanna know why I think the right is fascist, just read any of my posts against capitalism.

[Munchimoniam]

The only person there who seems to like protest warrior is the guy who started the thread. I suspect "RightWarrior" is ComradeStrawberry or some other leftists attempting to make PW look bad.

Observe the replies he has recieved:

"Most of the people at Protest Warrior are Zionist Jews and their toadie Neo-Conservatives."

"I have been at it with a member named "Elsa" on ProtestWarrior. On the thread "the Jew haters" (pages 18-20 or so) he tried to convince me that "jews" were not a race because there are black "jews" and Asian "jews" "

"That site was created by Jews (Alan and Kfir) and has way too many Jews there to be truly conservative. I suspect this company (LLP) is really a front for some Jewish lobbyists, like the AIPAC or some other group. That would explain the high Jewish presence at a 'conservative' website (most Jews are left of Democrats) and their focus is always pro-Israel, rather than any domestic issue."

[Subversive Pessimist]

I suspect "RightWarrior" is ComradeStrawberry or some other leftists attempting to make PW look bad.

Speechless :rolleyes:

[Freedom Writer]

We have also NAZIs here in finland, they totally suck, maybe best way to treat'em is to ignore'em.

[Trump_$$$]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 26 2004, 01:59 PM
So if someone from stormfront shows up on this forum and posts something, does that mean that Che-Lives is therefore a fascist website and all of you are fascists too ?

Oh wait a minute, one did just a few days ago. :rolleyes:
Heh, people from stormfront are hardly tolerated on protestwarrior. Unlike you group we believe in freedom of speach and allow people to say stupid shit if they want to. You folks just get rid of the opposition.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

You folks just get rid of the opposition.

Then how come you're here?
And the site is legally prohibited from including nazi and fascist rubbish. Not that we would want it even if it wasn't prohibited.

Nobody wants to hear what fascists have to say. It's very offensive and they need to keep their shit away from the political arena.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 03:42 AM
And the site is legally prohibited from including nazi and fascist rubbish. Not that we would want it even if it wasn't prohibited.

Nobody wants to hear what fascists have to say. It's very offensive and they need to keep their shit away from the political arena.
How are your opinions any better ?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

We actually want to achieve equality and liberty. Most moderate right-wingers do too (even though they're going about it the wrong way).

Most people share that common ground. Nazis and fascists don't. Nazism and fascism are necessarily opposed to equality and freedom. Why do we even want to bother with them if they don't even have the same fundamental goal?

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 27 2004, 05:01 PM
I once heard Nick Griffin from the BNP on the radio saying that he sympathized with the anti-capitalist marchers. What conclusion am I to draw from that ?

People all have their own agendas.
Dont try and bullshit me, you read the BNP manifesto? Try it boy, then read the Tory manifesto.

Its like a duplucate.

[Xvall]

Heh, people from stormfront are hardly tolerated on protestwarrior. Unlike you group we believe in freedom of speach and allow people to say stupid shit if they want to. You folks just get rid of the opposition.

Good job directly contradicting yourself. First you state that people at protestwarrior do not tolerate people from stormfront, and then you declare that you believe in the freedom of "speach" and allow your opponents to voice their opinions.


How are your opinions any better ?

We don't advocate the segregation of ethnicity, the merging or church and state, or the extermination of all jews.

[Trump_$$$]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 03:42 AM

Then how come you're here?
And the site is legally prohibited from including nazi and fascist rubbish. Not that we would want it even if it wasn't prohibited.

Nobody wants to hear what fascists have to say. It's very offensive and they need to keep their shit away from the political arena.
I am on my third user name. That's how.

[Trump_$$$]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 10 2004, 10:19 PM

Good job directly contradicting yourself. First you state that people at protestwarrior do not tolerate people from stormfront, and then you declare that you believe in the freedom of "speach" and allow your opponents to voice their opinions.



We don't advocate the segregation of ethnicity, the merging or church and state, or the extermination of all jews.
What's the definition of 'is'?

Not tolerating someone doesn't mean that you have to ban, kill, etc. There are some freaks on ProtestWarrior that we have created non-reply pacts on. They can say whatever they feel but the people that have signed will not reply. That's called not tolerating him without banning.

[Trump_$$$]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 10 2004, 10:19 PM
or the extermination of all jews.
Read: We just advocate protecting the people that will kill the jews for us.

[pandora]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 05:45 PM
We've long talked about those at protestwarrior as some sort of fascist racist bunch. I searched for protestwarrior on google, and look what I found:

Stormfront White Nationalist Community - Protestwarrior





http://www.***************/forum/showthread...282#post1346282 (http://www.***************/forum/showthread.php?p=1346282#post1346282)

"beautiful white people...."
Why are white people so ugly? Sorry I work with kids of all colors, and I'm mostly white myself, but straight white people are straight up ugly sometimes, they are geeky and sweaty, and I say this of myself as well...
Sometimes they can be big or tall, and I use my size as a female to an advantage.
Sorry, no offense, but I think white people are the ugliest, myself included.
My Japanese friends are continually freaked out by how smelly and hairy we are.

[Trump_$$$]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 03:34 AM
Why are white people so ugly? Sorry I work with kids of all colors, and I'm mostly white myself, but straight white people are straight up ugly sometimes, they are geeky and sweaty, and I say this of myself as well...
Sometimes they can be big or tall, and I use my size as a female to an advantage.
Sorry, no offense, but I think white people are the ugliest, myself included.
My Japanese friends are continually freaked out by how smelly and hairy we are.
I can't tell you how surprised I am to hear this from a commie :rolleyes:

[refuse_resist]

Ha! Nothing too surprising at all!

After reading that thread it's so obvious that a lot of those Protest Warrior morons are white supremacists. They've been known to work together with a lot of neo-Nazis anyway. The non-Zionist ones at least.

[STI]

I am on my third user name. That's how.

I think that's grounds for a ban, actually. :lol:

Dumbass!

You were banned before for being an annoying little tit. I can't remember the specifics, but I think your "lucid" (ha!) account was banned for racism. If I get around to it, I'll look it up.

Probably won't though, racist.


Read: We just advocate protecting the people that will kill the jews for us

Oh, our apologies. Here. I'll have you nominated for modship.


How are your opinions any better ?

Ours are based on evidence and reason. Theirs are based on horseshit racism and ad hominem attacks.


Not tolerating someone doesn't mean that you have to ban, kill, etc.

If it was our policy to kill people we disagreed with, you'd be dead by now.
If it was our policy to ban people we disagreed with, CI would've been banned.

We ban racist shits, trolls, and spammers.

[Mr. Krinklebein]

Unless one is a complete moron, one cannot be simultaneously a 'racist' and a Neocon.

[Xvall]

Why are white people so ugly?

Please shut up. We wouldn't like it if people went around asking why "Jews are so gross" or "Arabs are so dirty".

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Why are white people so ugly?

You have obviously never met my girlfriend... she is the most beautiful damn person in the whole world and if you don't shut up with racist shit like this I'll make every effort to see you banned.
People you might consider this a bit harsh, but what would your reaction be if she had said 'why are black people so smelly?', 'why do asians have such tiny dicks?' or 'Why is every Arab a suicide bomber?'.

I don't think it would be too positive.

[dopediana]

i think pandora was trying to make a point more than seriously offend, negating the beautiful white people statement by pointing out things that can be observed as shortcomings of the white race that are less present in other races........

[Osman Ghazi]

can say whatever they feel but the people that have signed will not reply.

I have to say... this idea intrigues me greatly. Elaborate, if you would be so kind.

[Trump_$$$]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 12:00 PM
Ha! Nothing too surprising at all!

After reading that thread it's so obvious that a lot of those Protest Warrior morons are white supremacists. They've been known to work together with a lot of neo-Nazis anyway. The non-Zionist ones at least.
Damn, you commies are so damn dense it's really no big surprise that you can't find a real job. Go along perfect with your someone owes me something idealogy.

The people in stormfront have and will never be tolerated by the majority of the people at PW. Difference between a group like PW and this place is that we actually believe in freedom of speach. If someone wants to be a racist asshole then more power to him. Maybe I'll get lucky and see him get his ass kicked for being a douchebag.

[STI]

Damn, you commies are so damn dense it's really no big surprise that you can't find a real job

Ha! Asshole!

I'm a lifeguard: I save peoples' lives for almost no money. Shuts you up.

[Snitza]

I personally don't see how we at Che-Lives, or we as communists in general should feel "obligated" to play by the rules of some higher-moral standard of giving "free speech" to our enemies. Why should we? Why WOULD we want to give them the chance to spread their propaganda and their ideas?

It's always been a constant struggle, a historical one: the communists versus the fascists. We continue that struggle today, even by the simplest of things: banning fascists from out discussion boards.

It's a "war", in a sort of humorous way.

We're just doing our best to make sure our side wins.

[Trump_$$$]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 03:05 PM

Damn, you commies are so damn dense it's really no big surprise that you can't find a real job

Ha! Asshole!

I'm a lifeguard: I save peoples' lives for almost no money. Shuts you up.
Hah, you sit on your ass %99 of the time blowing a whistle at kids that are running. You don't deserve much money.

[Anti-Capitalist1]

Originally posted by Trump_$$$+Nov 18 2004, 06:18 PM--> (Trump_$$$ @ Nov 18 2004, 06:18 PM)
[email protected] 17 2004, 03:05 PM

Damn, you commies are so damn dense it's really no big surprise that you can't find a real job

Ha! Asshole!

I'm a lifeguard: I save peoples' lives for almost no money. Shuts you up.
Hah, you sit on your ass %99 of the time blowing a whistle at kids that are running. You don't deserve much money. [/b]
or, he drags your fat ass out of the ocean and saves your life after you got caught by the undertow and were taken a mile out...

One thing I have to say: despite the fact that many of the dwellers of OI seem to hate us, believe we are idiots, and believe that we are unchangeable, they always keep coming back here to lock horns with us. It's a little curious, wouldn't you say?

[STI]

Hah, you sit on your ass %99 of the time blowing a whistle at kids that are running. You don't deserve much money.

Consider the following:

I've had to take upwards of seven courses in first aid, lifeguarding skills, and swim instruction (each ranging from 20 to 40 hours); I'm legally liable for any mistakes made on the job (as are the people who certified me - something which is not taken lightly). To pass my examinations, I had to swim 100 metres, then carry a victim another 100 (in under 4 minutes). I also had to swim 500 metres in under 10 minutes.

Oh, and it's "99%", not "%99".

[cubist]

at the same time he could be trying to infiltrate, but its worrying, any possible nazi convert is worrying,

[refuse_resist]

Originally posted by Trump_$$$+Nov 17 2004, 04:46 AM--> (Trump_$$$ @ Nov 17 2004, 04:46 AM)
[email protected] 11 2004, 12:00 PM
Ha! Nothing too surprising at all!

After reading that thread it's so obvious that a lot of those Protest Warrior morons are white supremacists. They've been known to work together with a lot of neo-Nazis anyway. The non-Zionist ones at least.
Damn, you commies are so damn dense it's really no big surprise that you can't find a real job. Go along perfect with your someone owes me something idealogy.

The people in stormfront have and will never be tolerated by the majority of the people at PW. Difference between a group like PW and this place is that we actually believe in freedom of speach. If someone wants to be a racist asshole then more power to him. Maybe I'll get lucky and see him get his ass kicked for being a douchebag. [/b]
We don't tolerate freedom of speech? Then why are you here? We allow freedom of speech of something that necessarily is.

However, something that advocates violence and intimidation of people because of their race, religion, sexuality, etc. is not free speech. In no way is this anything like excersizing free speech and I have yet to understand how anyone can consider letting these type of people spread their beliefs to be freedom of speech.

Here at Che-Lives we ban neo-nazis and fascist for a reason, and this is because if you let these type of people further spread their ideology it will only further their goals and help there cause, which is obviously prevalent in PW. Many people who are into bourgeois politics share very common beliefs with these types of people anyway. I mean just look at all these reactionary politicians in the mainstream like Pat Buchanan and David Duke.

Seeing racist threads on that website is no surprise at all. People have gone there in the past and have seen things just like that. So don't go prancing around claiming it's some sort of "leftist conspiracy" to make Protest Warrior look bad.

[Anti-Capitalist1]

Exactly. Freedom of Speech, refers to the spread of ideas, not that of inciting others to violence.

[Professor Moneybags]

I personally don't see how we at Che-Lives, or we as communists in general should feel "obligated" to play by the rules of some higher-moral standard of giving "free speech" to our enemies. Why should we? Why WOULD we want to give them the chance to spread their propaganda and their ideas?

Because you are all amoral, as I have said all along.


It's always been a constant struggle, a historical one: the communists versus the fascists.

The economic socialists versus the national socialists.

So where does capitalism fit in ?


We're just doing our best to make sure our side wins.

Does that mean I get to shoot you in the hope that my "side" wins ? No, because that would be endorsing your viewpoint.

[Professor Moneybags]

I've had to take upwards of seven courses in first aid, lifeguarding skills, and swim instruction (each ranging from 20 to 40 hours); I'm legally liable for any mistakes made on the job (as are the people who certified me - something which is not taken lightly). To pass my examinations, I had to swim 100 metres, then carry a victim another 100 (in under 4 minutes). I also had to swim 500 metres in under 10 minutes.

How much "productive labour" goes into that ?

Obviously none, seeing as there is no product at the end of it and no means of production are employed.

The LTV. Don't you just love it ?

[Invader Zim]

Because you are all amoral, as I have said all along.



I disagree, I understand the concept of Morals, and hold several imortant ones which dictate how I run my life. Perhaps you meant imoral?

So where does capitalism fit in ?


Next door to the fascists.

No, because that would be endorsing your viewpoint.

Well considering the number of times capitalists have done in the past, I doubt it, more like endorsing your own sides very sordid history.

[redstar66]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 12:00 PM
Ha! Nothing too surprising at all!

After reading that thread it's so obvious that a lot of those Protest Warrior morons are white supremacists. They've been known to work together with a lot of neo-Nazis anyway. The non-Zionist ones at least.
What makes you think there are white supremists on PW? Some made up thread?
The forums are open to all, hell there are even commies, socilalists and other of the like there too. What does that say about communists? :o

[NeedToShower]

I am very new here but this thread is interesting so I'll allow myself to speech here even though I know little about this forum's methods. I'll just say that we do allow freedom of speech, and that shutting up racism and all these random haters is in fact the same as producing freedom of speech and freedom to live.

Basically a white racist shuts up the freedom to speech black civil, obviously more intelligent seeing as he/she's not a racist, person have. By this I mean that if you do not shut up racists, yours shut up intelligent people who are offended by stupid racism.

You have to take a side. Personally I'll be siding with the victims.

On the question about life guarding, no labor is produced, but what labor do you produce as a medic? As a fire man?

[kidicarus20]

I post on the protest-warrior forum somtimes - they are a bunch of morons. Some of them are in their 30s and they have the intelligence of a two year old. Here are some of the things the "protest-warriors" have said to me while I try and force them into the intelligent "debate" they so crave for:






Originally posted by "Bulldog"+--> ("Bulldog")you stupid xxxx, what do you mean 'unsupported sample'? thats the same as calling me a liar, you piece of sh-- kid...get a fucking job and get off the internet and you might realize the real world isn't as 'theoretically correct' as your stupid pakistani ass thinks. every one of them had better tv's better stereos and better EVERYTHING than me and i've been working for as long as i can remember, and they're on govt subsidies, you retarded xxxx.
dont change the subject to 'millions' or 'just one' you stupid xxxx, you dont know sh-- and you want to change the subject to take credit away from FACTS. [/b]


Originally posted by "Bulldog"+--> ("Bulldog")what the fuk is a statistic, you dumb kid? MOST IF NOT ALL THE PEOPLE are as i described in one way or another (many, all). you're again talking singular when i'm talking about majority. again, you live in a bubble and ive been in the real world. yeah, your fantasy world is not relevant, but fuk you anyways.[/b]

I WISH THE GERMANS KILLED THE FRENCH LIKE THEY TRIED TO KILL OFF JEWS!!!


("bulldog")you call my FACTS 'stories' because you cant accept the truth. socialism has failed worldwide. accept it. communism has done nothing bull KILL nations. you're a 16 year old pakistani who cant even admit that you've never had a real job yet you spend all your days/nights on a conservative messageboard Rolling Eyes[/b][/quote]


conservatives dont need 'arguements'...we have FACTS and REALITY, stupid commie muslim.


(He got me confused with giant24us, a Muslim that used to post on the board. As you can clearly see, they try and place ad-hominems in place of arguments.)




From: jlstsi
To: Socialist
Posted:Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:55 pm
Message:
("jlstsi")F.U.C.K O.F.F.[/quote]

From: jlstsi
To: Socialist
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:55 pm
Subject: about your post
Message:
("jlstsi")F.U.C.K O.F.F.[/b][/quote]

[He sent it twice]

From: jlstsi
To: Socialist
Posted:Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:56 pm
Message:
("jlstsi")Come down to california, I'll show you how coward can coward be... :D
pussy![/b][/quote]

From: jlstsi
To: Socialist
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:26 pm
Message:

("jlstsi")

If you're challenging, you come up here. What's your name, address, phone number, etc.

Yeah, right! I would give you my phone number or address like that a little punk kid, piece of ignorant and useless crap would harass my wife!
How old are you, little piece of shit? What... like 10... 12?[/b][/quote]


From: jlstsi
To: Socialist
Posted:Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:34 pm
Message:
("jlstsi")Go FUCK yourself you little piece of crap. You insult people over the internet like a piece of shit! If I could only kick your little *****y ass you little mother fucker!!!!!!!!!
Why don't you give me your fucking address and I'll show up there? Why don't you give me your fucking phone number?
Come on, show that you have some... go ahead... I pay for the communication, you bastard![/b][/quote]

From: jlstsi
To: Socialist
Posted:Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:43 pm
Message:
xxxx OFF

(He sent this one about 25-35 times. Other Republicans have sent me gay pornography, and I wonder where they get it from, and what they're doing with it.)


From: Hope4ever
To: Socialist
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:13 am
Message:
You are a freaken Idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


From: shark54
To: Socialist
Subject:
Message:I LOVE SOCIALISTS!

I AM A VERY RICH RICH RICH JEW AND YOU ARE PROBABLY A POOR POOR POOR PERSON. I HAVE MORE INFLUENCE IN GOVERNMENT THAN YOU DO. I WILL HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON WORLD EVENTS THAN YOU WILL. I MATTER MORE THAN YOU. BURN IN HELL, ass----.

From: Grebel
To: Socialist
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:28 pm
Subject: Go home jewboy
Message:

You promote leftist jew ideas. You have a lot of nerve. You jew leftists are simply guests in my country. White, Southern, Christians, created America. These great men even allowed for jews like you to have a voice and a vote. What they failed to consider was that you jews would be so greedy and hateful.

Leave my country and go back to your russian, jewish homeland.


From: Krang
To: Socialist
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:56 am
Subject: a favor for krang
Message:

can you put me on your list of idiots?

thanks

-krang

("kook")If I could get my hands on your throat......[/b][/quote]

[Apparently he thinks I'm a woman who wants to subit myself to date rape]

("SpaceJesus")it's about fucking dead people.[/b][/quote]




"REPUBLICAN_HERO"@
My friend found this mpeg of some japs guy drillin this jap girl, and he dumps a bucket of sh*t all over her and then rubs it all over her and even on her face and mouth while hes shaggin her.......


"SpaceJesus"
My friend showed me this video called "an evening with the japanese" or something like that. It had people pooing all over themselves and weird stuff like that.

(This is how your average Republican spends his time - apparently.)

[NeedToShower]

Haha. Well, I'm considering the thought of joining just to be their intellectual god and majesty.
You see, that's the bonus with dumb people, they make you look smart.

[Osman Ghazi]

After looking over this site and failing to register (my computer won't load the page) I just have to say 'laugh away' cause these guys are a ing joke. They are, for the most part who don't want to get shot but still want to eschew military virtues.

Of course, this trend can be observed by looking at their homepage, complete with a list of their 'operations' usch as 'operation military shield' which defends those poor little lying recruiters from us big bad lefties.

It's really ing sad, most people have avatars of Halo2, which shows their intelectual capacity. (Zero)

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 04:27 PM
No, because that would be endorsing your viewpoint.

Well considering the number of times capitalists have done in the past, I doubt it, more like endorsing your own sides very sordid history.
The fact that this forum exists poves you are talking nonsense.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 08:00 AM
I'll just say that we do allow freedom of speech, and that shutting up racism and all these random haters is in fact the same as producing freedom of speech and freedom to live.
This is problem. Someone expressing their views does not break your legs or take money from your wallet, nor does not take away your freedom of speech. In banning "racist speech" (as repungent as it might be) you are saying that certain beliefs and phases should be illegal.

I don't know about you, but this has "thought-crime" written all over it.

[Professor Moneybags]

Are you the same KidIkarus who flamed capitalism magazine forums a while ago ?

[Osman Ghazi]

Are you the same KidIkarus who flamed capitalism magazine forums a while ago ?

Please, if anything its the other way around. I lasted a mere 24 hours before I was banned, and I'm not one to flame or troll. But, when I tried to tell them that it was physically impossible for Stalin to have killed 100 million people in a country of 150 million, they banned me.

Oh, well. their loss I guess. :lol:

[NeedToShower]

This is problem. Someone expressing their views does not break your legs or take money from your wallet, nor does not take away your freedom of speech. In banning "racist speech" (as repungent as it might be) you are saying that certain beliefs and phases should be illegal.

I don't know about you, but this has "thought-crime" written all over it. So protecting other races then white's, and giving them the ability to give their opinion freely, is a crime?

But don’t you realize that, by stating your opinion to us, in hope to win, you are hoping that we'll shut up about this opinion we carry this very moment, at the same time, you are "killing" our freedom of speech?

And it is a fact that is the majority is racist, the minority got a different skin tone, and thus the minority can’t have opinions. And it is a fact that if a racist spread he’s opinion, he's shutting down serious intelligent opinion expressed by those he discriminate.

Let me give you a correct example involving sexism.
If you force women to work in their home, they'll be doing that, always, and they'll never get a job. They won’t get a job because those in charge will only give jobs to men. These workers will only be men, thus every male person will only give job to men, because that's what their mentality is all about.
A female in such a society will, by fact, not have the right to express her opinion.

If a black is a white's slave, he's opinion will not matter, because white's will be in charge.

If a homosexual couple is taking a walk, they won’t be able to kiss in public in a homophobic center, because homophobes will hate them and most probably use violence on them.

If a black man is standing in front of a racist, and the racist is holding a racist speech, the black man will be angry. But what can the black man do? Nothing, because every action done by him and by anyone else will result in shutting up someone.
If the racist then wins, especially in the young public, the victim will lose, and the victim will be wiser then every racist, because racism automatically links to stupidity and lack of knowledge.

Everyone who holds pride in one's random skin color is a person who know nothing better, who have nothing to be happy over, who have no emotion, and who forces himself or herself into finding pride in their skin, just to feel worthy. I don’t think exceptions are existent. Shutting naive people with an opinion like that up is extremely important, otherwise they'll feel more worthy, they'll believe that they’re skin color actually is useful, and this is something we, or I, cant allow, because it is in my view, and your view, a crime to shut people up. And you are forced to shut people up, who would you shut up? the random victim with common knowledge, or that fool who's laughing at the other person's look and admiring he’s own damn race? If you don’t shut up the racist you are supporting the racist and if you are supporting racism you are supporting a certain hate, and if you are supporting this form for hate you are supporting murdering of the other race and everything that racist is saying and fantasying about when he or she say, and murdering is in fact crime. Unless you believe that the killing of a nigger is not killing at all, but if you believe such, why the hell are you wondering why shutting you up is wrong, when state laws and basic human rights, the bible, and basically everything serious preaching about moral laws and public laws, state that everyone are equal?

And what the hell is there to be proud of?
You are white, people with the same skin as you are in movies, ride around dressed as ghosts on horses with KKK written all over them, rape, kill, become presidents, become dictators, are murdered, live. Just like the members of these other races, but their didn’t have that KKK deal, however they live, rape, murder, are murdered, and have opinions.

Racism isn't an opinion, its stupidity, and this stupidity carries no since. This is a serious forum, and being a serious forum, why should "spam" be posted here? Racism is spam, it is powerful spam that can affect the life of many. It is the direct use of flaming, flaming is normally not allowed on forums, thought you know that. "Flaming" is immature, and you know that. "Flaming" is the direct fear of losing a battle.

Racism should and will one day be banned from this planet, and I think that we should start to act now.

Freedom of speech is non-existent until the idiotic idea about racism is gone, sexism is gone, gay hatred is gone, and people actually start to listen to people. What use do freedom of speech got if you are not heard?

And I never assumed that it should be banned, I’m saying that it should be removed. Banning it do not change the opinion, the opinion is still there. Removed. Seeing as this is an internet forum owned privately, meaning, not American, nor English, not “white” as it maters to imbeciles, it got it’s own laws, banning racism is the most logical thing to do, this is obvious, anything else will result in spam.

Calling a racist for an imbecile and an idiot is not flaming, taking it as an offence is hypocrisy.

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How much "productive labour" goes into that ?

Obviously none, seeing as there is no product at the end of it and no means of production are employed.

The LTV. Don't you just love it ?


*Sigh.

The LTV applies to services as well as goods.

The pool could not be open if there were no lifeguards.

People could not swim if the pool were not open.

People wouldn't come to the facility if they could not swim.

The facility wouldn't make money if people didn't come.

It's obvious that there is a product (a safer visit to the pool), you're just full of shit.