9/11 Secrets

[Paradox]

In the song "Cause of Death," Immortal Technique says something about "bombs planted on the george washington bridge." Does anyone know what he's talking about? He says they were planted there for "non-Arabs" during the emergency of 9/11. I'd like to know what this is all about. Also, he says "they dubbed a tape of osama and said it was proof." That's a pretty daring claim. Is it true?

[Hampton]

Bomb (http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:vF73Plnc3EgJ:www.whatreallyhappened .com/jpost.html+bomb+george+washington+bridge&hl=en)

Other Story (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html)

That article also has more on the white van on the bridge.

[Paradox]

Bomb

Other Story

That article also has more on the white van on the bridge.

Oh my God, this crap just keeps getting worse and worse. The "usama" in the tape is so fake, it's not even funny. I mean, I didn't trust the government as it was, knowing that THEY trained usama back in the eighties, that THEY gave saddam chemical weapons, but this!?! This is all I can take!!! Somebody, please tell me that justice is coming soon!!!

bush can go to hell!!!
sharon can go to hell!!!
burn the flag!!!

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!!!!
LIBERATION OR DEATH!!!!

[bushsucks1]

I've taken the time to read it all and to be honest,i've never heard this before,could this be true? is it pure conspiracy theory? i don't know,but what i do know is that i doubt a guy in a cave with a dialsys machine could pull off something like 9/11

[king Royale]

First, let me say Immortal Technique kicks ass.

No, I know nothing about the "bombs planted on the George Washington Bridge." However I do know about the people in the white van. They were mossad (Israel's equivalent of the CIA) agents. They had boxcutters in their car and were filming the towers burning and cheering as the planes crashed and the buildings fell. There is a (pretty good) theory out there that Israel was involved in the 9/11 attacks which would make a lot of sense. If you want to learn more about this go to www.whatreallyhappened.com. This website is collection of news articles about current events, and a lot about the Israel-9/11 connection.


Edit: I just noticed that Hampton had the same link; the one about the Israelis. Also Hapton has other great links about Fred Hampton-a Black Panther martyr in his signature. If anyone doesn't know much about the Black Panthers, I suggest you check this out.

[Debs'atron]

Wow, holy wow. I've read everything from the mossad agents dancing on tape to fake osama tapes. I am amazed. If this is true, perhaps we should invade Israel. This seems to make sense, but can we really believe it?

[cathatonix]

I've heard that an Israelian company moved out of the WTC building a week before 9/11. Just a coincidence?

[king Royale]

Also an Israeli man called his friend (a worker in WTC) and told him not to go to work right before the attacks happened.


If this is true, perhaps we should invade Israel.
We shouldn't invade Israel but for sure stop or financial support of them and their occupation of Palestine.

[cathatonix]

Europe and North America cheered when the Berlin wall fell. But now we are letting Israel building new walls.
I'm not so sure all of the third world cheered when Soviet and the wall fell. They supported a lot of rebel groups. ANC, ZANU, MPLA and so on. US and Britain supported apartheid regimes in South Africa and Rhodesia while the "Empire of evil" (as Reagan said) tried to help the black people getting their countries back.
Now groups like that have almost nowhere to turn. The globe is a big, juicy "smorgasbord" for the fascists and the global companies.

[DaCuBaN]

Europe and North America may well have "cheered" as the wall fell, but their reasons for cheering are most distant from those of the people of Berlin...


Construction of a wall around the three western sectors began on August 13, 1961 in East Berlin. It first consisted of barbed wire, which was later replaced by the actual wall. The wall physically divided the city and as it completely surrounded West Berlin, it effectively turned the western sectors into an island in the eastern territories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall

[fuerzasocialista]

The security cameras in Logan International airport showed Mohammed Atta and others identified as the hijackers boarding the plane which eventually crashed into one of the towers. No only that, but the black box from the same plane was also found and Atta's voice was very clear when he hijacked the plane.

I have heard about the supposed Israeli connection to 9/11... I don't doubt that there may have been some involvement but many of the theories expressed in the website sound thin. The Saudi Royal family may not have had a hand in the 9/11 attacks. But there are definitely entities within Saudi Arabia that did in my opinion.

We are also forgetting about the twentieth hijacker, Zacarias Moussawi. There is little doubt that he was a part of the terrorist cell that perpetrated the 9/11 attacks and he definitely is not a zionist.

[king Royale]

The security cameras in Logan International airport showed Mohammed Atta and others identified as the hijackers boarding the plane which eventually crashed into one of the towers. No only that, but the black box from the same plane was also found and Atta's voice was very clear when he hijacked the plane.

I have heard about the supposed Israeli connection to 9/11... I don't doubt that there may have been some involvement but many of the theories expressed in the website sound thin. The Saudi Royal family may not have had a hand in the 9/11 attacks. But there are definitely entities within Saudi Arabia that did in my opinion.

We are also forgetting about the twentieth hijacker, Zacarias Moussawi. There is little doubt that he was a part of the terrorist cell that perpetrated the 9/11 attacks and he definitely is not a zionist.

First off understand that we are not in any way saying that this is the truth. Just an interesting theory. Of course the zionists were not the highjackers. Could you imagine a zionist blowing him or herself up? What is being suggested is that Mossad had a role in recruiting the highjackers. They used 9/11 to gain sympathy for Israel and made many Americans feel more connected to Israel and supportive of its occupation of Palestine.

Did you know that for weeks after the attacks Bin Laden denied any involvement?

Did you know that Mossad agents were actually caught setting up a fake Al-Qaeda recruiting center in Palestine?

:huh:

[fuerzasocialista]

First off understand that we are not in any way saying that this is the truth. Just an interesting theory. Of course the zionists were not the highjackers. Could you imagine a zionist blowing him or herself up? What is being suggested is that Mossad had a role in recruiting the highjackers. They used 9/11 to gain sympathy for Israel and made many Americans feel more connected to Israel and supportive of its occupation of Palestine.

Did you know that for weeks after the attacks Bin Laden denied any involvement?

Did you know that Mossad agents were actually caught setting up a fake Al-Qaeda recruiting center in Palestine?

It still sounds thin. As far as bin Laden denying involvement, I wouldn't expect him to say he was involved. There has been too much evidence pointing to Al-Qaeda. The zionists wouldn't have the balls to pull this off.

[DaCuBaN]

There has been too much evidence pointing to Al-Qaeda.

I'm yet to see it...


The zionists wouldn't have the balls to pull this off.

They've got the "balls" to build a wall between them and "Palestine", they've got the balls to ignore the UN at every turn.

I'd say they certainly do have the "Balls" to do it.

[fuerzasocialista]

They've got the "balls" to build a wall between them and "Palestine", they've got the balls to ignore the UN at every turn.

I'd say they certainly do have the "Balls" to do it.

No they don't. Building walls and ignoring the UN does not equate to blowing up the major financial center of the capitalist world. Especially when its located in the country that is their benefactor so to speak. This action did not draw sympathy for Israel in my opinion.


I'm yet to see it...

Perhaps you don't want to see it?

The WTC had already been attacked by an Al-Qaeda operative a decade before. Why would it be so far fetched that they would come back and finish the job?

[DaCuBaN]

No they don't. Building walls and ignoring the UN does not equate to blowing up the major financial center of the capitalist world. Especially when its located in the country that is their benefactor so to speak. This action did not draw sympathy for Israel in my opinion.

Sympathy was the wrong word. It certainly does bring empathy from the US public: They now "know how Israel feels". That was the intent I surmised from the quote.


Perhaps you don't want to see it?

I would dearly love to see any evidence - one way or the other - simply to set my own mind at rest; I hate having loose ends.

If you know of any, I'd be more than happy to hear it.


The WTC had already been attacked by an Al-Qaeda operative a decade before. Why would it be so far fetched that they would come back and finish the job?

The IRA planted many a bomb in London: Does this mean all bomb attacks on London are the work of the IRA? I'm not saying it wasn't Al-Qaeda: I'm saying we don't know who it was. Afghanistan was our "best bet". Did you miss all the stuff the media threw out about "hopeless intelligence"? If they are saying that, it probably means the situation is even worse!

[fuerzasocialista]

My point is that I believe that Al-Qaeda carried this out without any involvement from the zionists. The zionists are too busy carrying out their own holocaust against the Palestinians and it seems unlikely that they would want to run the risk of being involved in a major terrorists coup against the US for the sake of drawing empathy to their "cause". It just doesn't add up.

As far as evidence, the 9/11 commission should have all that. I seriously doubt that the bulk of it was doctored to cover up an Israeli hand in the attacks. This would have been leaked out by now.

And you could say that the 9/11 commission report is bullshit. However, Dubya went before them with out being sworn to oath and with Vice Pres DICK at his side. That tells me that the commission was authentic and that Dubya was shaking in his boots. Also, the meeting was in private. I saw the press conference after the meeting took place and Dubya looked a little shaken up. I wonder what went on in there?? :ph34r:

[king Royale]

No they don't. Building walls and ignoring the UN does not equate to blowing up the major financial center of the capitalist world. Especially when its located in the country that is their benefactor so to speak. This action did not draw sympathy for Israel in my opinion.


What is likely if this is true is that some high level officials new about the plot. Of course Bush didn't, he is too dumb to be in on such a big secret.


As far as evidence, the 9/11 commission should have all that. I seriously doubt that the bulk of it was doctored to cover up an Israeli hand in the attacks. This would have been leaked out by now.

Do you really expect a government appointed commission to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Also do you recall, the media has been silenced about it, the Israeli spy in the defense department?


And you could say that the 9/11 commission report is bullshit. However, Dubya went before them with out being sworn to oath and with Vice Pres DICK at his side. That tells me that the commission was authentic and that Dubya was shaking in his boots. Also, the meeting was in private.

I'm not sure how, in any way that means that it will tell the entire truth.