Martial Arts.

[bunk]

For self defence, fitness, or what? I used to practice a form of kung fu which gave you a strong base in kickboxing and some self defence moves. There weren't too many forms so it was quite realistic. I left cause they only had point sparring.
I think this should be in here instead of chit-chat because it is a way of self-defense that has and can be used against police brutality.

[Anarchist Freedom]

I take tae kwon do its a very interesting practice I focus on fitness and self defense. Also I doubt it could be used again a police officer with a gun,flashlight,night stick,more guns in car and tazer!

[Fidelbrand]

You can't talk about "self-defense" when a bunch of police surrounds you with their stupid clubs...

Anyway, knowing a few good moves is essential for escape. :)

[Inti]

I started out with Ed Parkers Kenpo Karate in 95 but I stopped training it regularly when I came to Norway in ´99, but I have kept the moves and the techniques more or less live since then, also I practiced Kickboxing and that was mainly good for endurance, not that good for defense, then I moved on to Muay Thai and it was pretty rough but nice. Stopped about 1 year ago when my best friend and motivator moved back to Sweden and Im still waiting for his return. Lately I have been thinking on taking up active practice again but I cannot decide which one of Ninjutsu or Krav Maga since they dont have the Kenpo Karate here in Norway. The arts offered here in Oslo are quite few and I would like to practice something that actually works now in this modern world, nothing of that samurai stuff with swords and stuff that belong to the past, afterall the cops dont utilize swords and they leave their guns in the trunks of their cars... ;)
Running is a viable self defense often if conversation doesnt help, violence I only use if there isnt any opportunity to walk away.

[Guest_gaf]

i did practise taekwondo and kung fu(wushu) and kung-fu was really good for me and much less "military"than tae-kwondo....
good way to learn to get your fear and feelings under control

[bunk]

Taekwondo is the most popular but in my opinion one of the worst. There are a lot of mcdojos around for it. Taekwondo emphasises kicking which your going to use least in a fight aqnd in some of their point sparring don't even use punches. Same for wushu mainly an art about doing colourful demos with big spinning kicks.
I think muay thai or san shou with brazilian jujitsu is probably best mix for self defence.

[gaf]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 05:09 PM
Taekwondo is the most popular but in my opinion one of the worst. There are a lot of mcdojos around for it. Taekwondo emphasises kicking which your going to use least in a fight aqnd in some of their point sparring don't even use punches. Same for wushu mainly an art about doing colourful demos with big spinning kicks.
I think muay thai or san shou with brazilian jujitsu is probably best mix for self defence.
martial art is not going about fighting but other knowing yourself and thus your adversary too.

[bunk]

mcdojos will not help you with chi or spirituality, just useless forms.

[gaf]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 06:59 PM
mcdojos will not help you with chi or spirituality, just useless forms.
what is useless or helpless please?
kata .dojo?
i don't understand the useless

[Xvall]

Assualt Rifle > Roundhouse Kick

[Inti]

Of the few things I have tried I have to say that the Kenpo was the best I have practiced, much due to it was a system that is tailored for each individual and not like many other arts where you have to tailor yourself into one system. My instructor that I had during my years with kenpo helped me a lot in my life, not only with the practice. There is so much more to martial arts than just self defence or physical conditioning. He always inspired us to come up with our "own" techniques and then we had to explain it part by part and we didnt have separate classes for the ones with high graded belts or beginners, we were all practicing at the same time and he always helped everyone that needed it and didnt favorise anyone.
The funny thing is that when I started practicing I did it because I was tired of being bullied by beefed up peabrains that always looked at me as the easiest target to unload their frustration on when they didnt get that woman that they wanted at the end of the night at the nightclubs. But when I had practiced for a little while, all of the sudden no one approached me to fight me, good for me, but that is one of the good thing that martial arts can give you, confidence but one has to be careful to not become overconfident or arrogant. Martial arts for the ones that really get into it, becomes a way of life and so much more than just words or training.
Perhaps this sounds strange to some people but I think that if everyone was training martial arts, there would be much less violence in the world.. :)

[Guest_gaf]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2004, 03:11 PM

Perhaps this sounds strange to some people but I think that if everyone was training martial arts, there would be much less violence in the world.. :)
agree

[ComradeChris]

Perhaps this sounds strange to some people but I think that if everyone was training martial arts, there would be much less violence in the world..

But preparation for an attack, by training to attack, only leads to paranoia, and more attacking.

[refuse_resist]

I once practiced Tae Kwan Doe and Shotokan, then some other style I took as a little kid, but I'm not too sure which it was.

Even though many people say Tae Kwan Doe is ineffective, I think this all matters on the person and how well they can use the bottom part of their body, especially since kicking can cause just as much damage, if not more, as punching.

Shotokan is also a pretty cool style, since it involves 50% of your upper body and 50% lower body, plus all the grappling moves. :D

But hey, to each their own. You just need to find a style that you feel is right for you. Another good thing is to learn one at a time, since learning multiple different styles at once can become quite confusing.

[Djehuti]

Most marital arts are pretty...yeah useless. Train some Krav Maga instead.
If possible, combine it with Brazilian Jui-jutsu, sooner or late you will land on the floor on a street fight, and then there can be nice with some skills in lying combat. Krav Maga is mostly standing combat, but its great. Made for REAL combat. Boxing is also good.

So train some fighting, buy billy clubs and tear gas, etc and go out and kick the shit out of some nazi fuckers if you have that problem.

[Guest_gaf]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 07:32 PM
Most marital arts are pretty...yeah useless. Train some Krav Maga instead.
If possible, combine it with Brazilian Jui-jutsu, sooner or late you will land on the floor on a street fight, and then there can be nice with some skills in lying combat. Krav Maga is mostly standing combat, but its great. Made for REAL combat. Boxing is also good.

So train some fighting, buy billy clubs and tear gas, etc and go out and kick the shit out of some nazi fuckers if you have that problem.
i know one kick who always work.....
bollocks kick and you don't have to fight long .....

[Inti]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2004, 04:53 PM

But preparation for an attack, by training to attack, only leads to paranoia, and more attacking.
I think that you are wrong actually. At least for me the more I practiced, less I wanted to hurt people because one learns how to do most possible damage and the results of it. I dont know how it is in other martial arts but where I was training we learned how to mend many of the eventual damages that is inflicted by the various strikes, chokes and breaks.
For me the martial arts are not simply self defence or sport, it is a way of life and many of the things you learn in the classes are things that you can use in many other fields and many other events in life. I have only seen benefits by practicing. Perhaps you should give it a try if you havent already.

Guest_Gaf: The bollock kick doesnt always work, but usually its a very good, powerful and effective attack. I went to an aikido class once and the instructor there had me kick him the hardest I could in his balls (crazy MF I know!!), and I told him that I didnt want to hurt him, but he insisted so finally I kicked him a good one straight up his balls.. Was afraid that the balls would be flying out his mouth :D but to my surprise :blink: lifted from the ground, pretty high and when he landed again I asked if he was ok but he didnt even flinch and straightened out his balls, putting them in place again and told me that there is techniques for that too...

In the streets if the situation should go really bad and there is no way to escape, I prefer good kicks on the shins, stomping the feet and knees to the thigh and balls for starters and preferably with some good strikes upstairs on the throat, temple, kidney, solar plexus or whatever the opponent offers you..

"I come to you with Karate,
Empty hands,
I have no weapons
but should I be forced to defend myself
my principles or my honor
should it be a matter of life or death
here is my weapons
karate
Empty hands"

[Latifa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 05:09 PM
Taekwondo is the most popular but in my opinion one of the worst. There are a lot of mcdojos around for it. Taekwondo emphasises kicking which your going to use least in a fight aqnd in some of their point sparring don't even use punches. Same for wushu mainly an art about doing colourful demos with big spinning kicks.
I think muay thai or san shou with brazilian jujitsu is probably best mix for self defence.
Kicking? Wear heavy boots and connect fast around to the back. Hurts like hull, but you've got to have the sppeeeedd. BJJ is probably the best, it's also quite accesable ( I live in a city of 400.000 and there are 2 dojos teaching it )

[bunk]

I like to kick below the waist, that is good. Anything above the waste is impractical unless your opponent is lying down.

[MiniOswald]

i practise my own martial art, its called dirty fighting,

bollocks
eyes
temples
bridge of the nose
hair

The 'weak' areas of a man
balls to your fancy moves, connect your foot or fist to a mans testicles and he aint going no-where fast

[Inti]

you are right, crossfire

[Latifa]

Sorry I totally forgot! :o Anyone read Steal This Book (http://tenant.net/Community/steal/steal.html)?? It has some great info on street fighting.

[Inti]

Actually hadnt read the book Latifa.. But thanks:) A couple of hours later and almost dying to sleep I finished it:) It was a good read and a definite bookmark in my browser;)