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Nas
16th October 2004, 23:34
long ago i made a thread saying :
"my revolutionary spirit comes out of love of my people not hatred towards others"
when i wrote that i was influenced by a song i heard anyways i have realize this is not me , it doesnt fit me , i mean its "ok" for someone to have this feeling but i dont think i love or care for the poor in usa or africa
at that moment i was trying to be someone who i am not :unsure
"i would not sacrifice my self for anyone" this is a reply from that thread and i made before and this got me thinking , i dont think i would sacrifice my self for anybody
revolutionindia
17th October 2004, 05:27
Go tell this to someone who cares
You won't find any especially in the opposing ideologies forum
Good Day
Palmares
17th October 2004, 06:43
Calm down RI.
Nas, what causes these sentiments? I guess I could understand someone wanting to preserve themselves, but I cannot deny that if there were circumstances where a loved one of mine was in danger and I had but a split second to decide my actions, I would do what it takes to save that person.
Concerning whether I would do it for people I don't know... on the individual basis I probably would, though that doesn't neccessitate that I wouldn't try to help in some other way (that doesn't involve me dieing).
Conceptually though, I would put my life on the line (hey, I'm a revolutionary).
So maybe not for a person, but I would for people.
Nas
17th October 2004, 22:12
thats just the way i am , i am not sentimental , i dont get emotional as other do ,
Subversive Pessimist
17th October 2004, 23:05
thats just the way i am , i am not sentimental , i dont get emotional as other do ,
And then..... :rolleyes:
long ago i made a thread saying :
"my revolutionary spirit comes out of love of my people not hatred towards others"
when i wrote that i was influenced by a song i heard anyways i have realize this is not me
You sound to me like a disturbed kid.
The Garbage Disposal Unit
17th October 2004, 23:08
"A revolution that demands self-sacrifice is Papa's revolution."
-Paraphrase of May '68 Graffiti
Nas
21st October 2004, 02:34
Strawberry , you are making it sound like i have mixed feelings, i wrote that statement long time ago, and now i'm taking it back because i realized the mistake i made , you know iam young
my attitude towards the revolution its just different than other leftists , is that ok?
Nas
21st October 2004, 02:38
the thing is that sometimes im disgusted by the way the people on this board refer to the revolution
its ironic how in a revolution the people are suppost to be together not apart but yet people are divided , including me
Palmares
21st October 2004, 08:53
Originally posted by ComradeStrawberry+Oct 18 2004, 08:05 AM--> (ComradeStrawberry @ Oct 18 2004, 08:05 AM) And then..... :rolleyes:
You sound to me like a disturbed kid. [/b]
Can you read? He said long ago. <_<
Nas
the thing is that sometimes im disgusted by the way the people on this board refer to the revolution
its ironic how in a revolution the people are suppost to be together not apart but yet people are divided , including me
Could you elaborate on these points?
Subversive Pessimist
21st October 2004, 11:59
my attitude towards the revolution its just different than other leftists , is that ok?
Of course that is okay.
I am also disgusted when I hear about people saying that people need to contribute to "the revolution", or people saying, "Hey, I'm revolutionary", like it was some sort of religious sect, and when a revolution finally starts in a country, it's made by those "poor, shitless, insignificant peasents who are making revolution in a pathethic little country" (this has been said several times by people on this forum).
But that doesn't mean I don't care about other people, and I would like to see the capitalist governments today being destroyed and replaced with a socialist government.
I just don't understand why you are so cold, not having feelings for other people.
Is it something that you could explain, perhaps?
Nas
21st October 2004, 20:49
when at first i came to this forum, i was amazed on how much i agreed with some of the opinions of the people here. I thought its all cool , i finally have a good place where i chat about Che and left politics.
as i have been here , i have reading about your posts and topics and advices on learning more but as i read your posts (some of you can make good writing) i begin telling other people what i know,so i was telling them what to do , what to think , what to read and stuff (you know because many of you said that the revolution comes out with support of the people in general) so i thought if this is true than what all the people(in general) are doing now must be wrong , and i thought i was doing the right thing by preaching about communism and socialism
and when someone questions what you belief and worse, proves what you are saying is wrong, you know ,its annoying because what they are saying its true
you gotta understand that iam a student , next year i will be going to college , the stuff i read on left politics and history have influenced me .the stuff i haven been told on left politics , in person, influences me too.
and so once, i saw what one thread where it says "why do you hate capitalism?" and some posted a picture of a poor kid , which look homeless , like the ones in africa. and so i asked my self "do i really care of the poor people in Africa or even here ? do i even think of them in a regular day? " so i understood i am more selfish than anything else
Nas
21st October 2004, 21:12
once i also met a guy who i guess supports left beliefs and anarchy so i was like i can finally talk to someone about this , but this kid turn out to have an attitude like a hippie , you could also tell by the way he dressed, he was wearing everything black, but that didnt matter too me when i saw him, he turned out to be very, very, nice kid ,way too nice to call him self a revolutionary, i wasn't expecting that and so as i read posts here about how much you want the revolution to happen and some of you very forward for communism , i think i read some of you got tattoos of communism and bought stuff on Che, so many of you sound like that kid i met , who is nice with everyone , and is very sentimental of everything, like a hippie
what i'm saying here is that in order to have a revolutionary spirit , it takes maybe, a strong specific character. When i met people who support left politics they don't fit what i was expecting. they are like volunteering workers , who want a better environment and care for the elderly, they turned out to be nice people
Nas
23rd October 2004, 02:11
im taking a break from socialism and anything related to it. Che Guevara can really impress you but maybe it was just the impression that got me started. If left politics is really something i am interested and if it really means something to me , i will comeback to it, if not then i won't. (i might after all become a capitalist)
by the way i agreed when they said that now its not the time for the revolution. i have actually always thought that but if something was to happen now it would be like a military push, you know, like an insurrection but led by good generals , the good guys :castro: and :che:
you know, human nature is really something, isn't it?
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