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redstar2000
8th October 2004, 14:29
From the BBC...

Blair back after Africa troop vow

Prime Minister Tony Blair has arrived back in Britain from Africa after saying the continent should be the top priority for a new EU battle force.

Speaking in Addis Ababa, Mr Blair said: "I want Africa to be the top priority for the EU's new rapidly deployable battle groups and to get them operational as soon as possible in 2005."

The groups will be 1,500 troops strong and the first two or three are due to be operational by next year.

Britain and France are already thought to have the right capabilities to provide whole battle groups - other nations, such as Sweden and Denmark may combine.

The deployment of EU troops in the Democratic Republic of Congo last year was part of the plan's development.

The troops would only be used under an EU banner after a unanimous decision at the European Council of Ministers. The proposed EU constitution would allow countries contributing battle groups to cooperate anyway.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/uk_news/politics/3725578.stm

It's starting to look a lot like 1880!

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Capitalist Imperial
8th October 2004, 18:45
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 01:29 PM
From the BBC...

Blair back after Africa troop vow

Prime Minister Tony Blair has arrived back in Britain from Africa after saying the continent should be the top priority for a new EU battle force.

Speaking in Addis Ababa, Mr Blair said: "I want Africa to be the top priority for the EU's new rapidly deployable battle groups and to get them operational as soon as possible in 2005."

The groups will be 1,500 troops strong and the first two or three are due to be operational by next year.

Britain and France are already thought to have the right capabilities to provide whole battle groups - other nations, such as Sweden and Denmark may combine.

The deployment of EU troops in the Democratic Republic of Congo last year was part of the plan's development.

The troops would only be used under an EU banner after a unanimous decision at the European Council of Ministers. The proposed EU constitution would allow countries contributing battle groups to cooperate anyway.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/uk_news/politics/3725578.stm

It's starting to look a lot like 1880!

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This would certainly be a significant event for the EU's member nations.

Hey, lets not kid ourselves, the Euro's have a tendency to be benevolent enough to possibly use some of those forces for much needed humanitarian concerns in the region.

Severian
8th October 2004, 19:17
Also interesting:

The recent coup attempt in Equatorial Guinea by a mercenary outfit closely tied to the British government - Madrid may also have been involved. The government of Eq. Guinea, which they were attempting to overthrow, has been making a lot of oil investment deals with U.S. companies.

A number of other conflicts in Africa over the past decade, beginning with Rwanda in 1994, have seen different imperialist powers backing different sides.

The U.S. has definitely been moving in on France's former sphere of influence, for example. Even Britain has probably seen its economic interests damaged, and it's not surprising they'll be looking for ways to intervene and expand their influence.

revolutionindia
9th October 2004, 15:55
I thought they finished raping africa long time ago

Looks like they want to go back and check to make sure they
did a good job

Bastards!!!!!!

Lacrimi de Chiciură
9th October 2004, 19:00
I don't get it. Why do they "need" European troops in Africaż

redstar2000
9th October 2004, 23:26
Originally posted by The wise old [email protected] 9 2004, 01:00 PM
I don't get it. Why do they "need" European troops in Africa?
To reimpose colonialism, of course.

Not that they would call it that, naturally.

They will have some pleasant-sounding vocabulary that will translate into the the same social relationship that European countries had with Africa c.1900.

You see, Africa is still rich in resources, including cheap labor. But it's hard to "do business" in "failed states" or in the midst of endless low-level warfare. Something must be done!

"Order" must be restored.

"Fetch me another G&T, boy."

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Professor Moneybags
10th October 2004, 16:59
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 02:55 PM
I thought they finished raping africa long time ago
The Africans are doing a good enough job of raping each other.

Professor Moneybags
10th October 2004, 17:01
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 10:26 PM
You see, Africa is still rich in resources, including cheap labor. But it's hard to "do business" in "failed states" or in the midst of endless low-level warfare. Something must be done!
That's funny. Five minutes ago capitalism "thrived on war". Now it doesn't, so it would seem.

One of these days, you'll make your mind up.

The Sloth
11th October 2004, 01:29
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 8 2004, 05:45 PM
This would certainly be a significant event for the EU's member nations.

Hey, lets not kid ourselves, the Euro's have a tendency to be benevolent enough to possibly use some of those forces for much needed humanitarian concerns in the region.
Off-topic, but god damn it, I know that you received my PM about Haiti.

Are you going to say anything about it? I spent a lot of time writing it out.

Vinny Rafarino
11th October 2004, 01:59
Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 10 2004, 04:01 PM
That's funny. Five minutes ago capitalism "thrived on war". Now it doesn't, so it would seem.

One of these days, you'll make your mind up.
I'm not surprised you would confuse the issue of extracting third world surplus value by military imperialism of states that "threaten the western way of life" and extraction of third world surplus value by economic imperialism from states that are in a constant state of civil war.

You're dumb.

Osman Ghazi
11th October 2004, 02:04
That's funny. Five minutes ago capitalism "thrived on war". Now it doesn't, so it would seem.

One of these days, you'll make your mind up.

Is it really that difficult for you to understand? Here. I'll make it real simple for ya:

If there is a war on, businesses can supply the weapons to the various parties, thusly, they thrive. Still with me?

Okay, now, if there is a war going on, in the place where you are trying to do business, it becomes very difficult to make a lot of money.

Also, European businesses are focused less on arms dealing than is the American economy, so that is another reason they want to try to establish order.


The Africans are doing a good enough job of raping each other.

And yet, none of the weapons or expertise for what they are doing is homegrown. Plus,as I've said before, they lack the ability to influence their government in any kind of way.

Capitalist Imperial
13th October 2004, 14:39
Originally posted by Brooklyn-[email protected] 11 2004, 12:29 AM
Off-topic, but god damn it, I know that you received my PM about Haiti.

Are you going to say anything about it? I spent a lot of time writing it out.
Yeah, I'll get to it. I've been busy at work and unable to get to che for too much time at once. You wrote a very comprehensive PM, and I will address it.

Professor Moneybags
13th October 2004, 19:22
Originally posted by Osman [email protected] 11 2004, 01:04 AM
And yet, none of the weapons or expertise for what they are doing is homegrown.
No, you're right. It was taught to them by the soviets (notice that the weaponry they carry is of soviet origin too). Africa was all part of their plan for world domination.

cormacobear
13th October 2004, 19:36
Maybe you should take some time to study your countries congressional investigations. 90% of arms deals done by the CIA were the sale of arms of soviet origin.

there hasn't been a signifigant left wing militant group in any of the conflict regions in twenty years. And yet there are thousands of active warlords in Africa none of them seeking to create greater economic equality.

It is estimated that alomst a third of rebel groups acting in western and central Africa are being funded by Corperations in Europe and N.America.

If the regime stops taking orders change it, eh.