Superior Military - Protect the socialist camp

[RedSovietCCCP]

I think in order to have a strong socialist country you need a strong military. During the cold war era the US and the United nations where terrified of the Red Army of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Military was even more superior than the United States military. My point is get the economy booming then build up your military to protect the socialist country and the working people from the western enfluence such as the US and the U.N. countrys. Like it says in the Manifesto, so many countrys are scared of the spectre of communism. What do you do when you are scared of something? Eliminate the scare.

[revolutionary spirit]

i think in a socialist country the military should be disbanded and the people given the weapons,a people's milita if you like.Look what happened in Chile was it?The elcted socialist leader there put his faith in the military and they turned round with CIA backing and overthrew him.Same in Guatemala.With the workers' armed and willing to defend the revolution nothing while defeat them.

[RedSovietCCCP]

Revoul spirit, I agree with some of the stuff you are saying. What you are saying is basically is how vietnam handles there nation defense with milita. I mean look at U.S. they got there asses kicked in the Vietnam war by the Communist army of the N.V.A. they where basically milita. But they had a lot of help from the Soviet Union with weapons and training. There should be a organized army, Navy, and Airforce in certain socialist camps that can help out other socialist nations of imperial threats such as the Soviet Union did with Vietnam and Cuba.

[lenin]

"the state of a nation can be assesed by the state of its military"- frederick engels

armed people is not a good idea as it would lead to more crime (could you imagine every criminal in the country having a gun!)

socialist countries will always have a good military because of the socialist principle of heavy industry. all socialist countries stress the importance of heavy industry. this is what created the mighty red army. stalins 5 year plans to turn USSR from agricultuul country, to heavy industrial country.

[RedSovietCCCP]

VERY VERY GOOD POINT LENIN!!!!!!!!

[RedRevolutionary87]

in ever country every criminal has a gun, or can get one; whether guns are outlawed or not. but if everyone is given a gun, then the victim can protect himself, the robber will thnk twice about going into that conveniance store if he knows the guy working there owns and is trained as much as he is to use his gun.

[Revolution Hero]

RedSoviet:"The Soviet Military was even more superior than the United States military. My point is get the economy booming then build up your military to protect the socialist country and the working people from the western enfluence such as the US and the U.N. countries..."

Soviet military was sperior. That is right. But you have to consider the fact that USSR have spent 80% of it's internal budget on military industry. Only 20% went on the needs of the society and the country. If the USSR haven't spent so much money on military needs, then Soviet Union would be more wealthy than usa.
The communist leaders have choosed the way of rivalry and they have got the collapse of the whole system as the result.
Who was the initiator of the cold war? Definitely USSR. After WW2 Soviets made the block of socialist countries in the Europe. The capitalist world have seen the danger in this expansion of communism and they have created NATO , as their answer to the soviet expansion. That is how the rivalry have started.
That was a big mistake. Socialist state had to develop it's internal economical sphere, not wasting money on weapons.

[BOZG]

I think that if you do have a military, there is also the need for a militia to counteract the military if they try a coup. I think though that both should only be armed during times of revolution and that afterwards all weapons should be destroyed.

[tyronelad]

the cold war is believed 2 have been caused by the american home secretary when he had an arguement with a soviet offical at Postdam 1945. so much stuff when on its hard to blame who started the cold war.

in the usa, states which allow people 2 carry concealed guns have seen a dramatic fall in armed robberies as criminals fear they might b going 2 rob a shop with armed customers.

[revolutionary spirit]

Quote: from lenin on 2:27 am on May 27, 2002
"the state of a nation can be assesed by the state of its military"- frederick engels

armed people is not a good idea as it would lead to more crime (could you imagine every criminal in the country having a gun!)

socialist countries will always have a good military because of the socialist principle of heavy industry. all socialist countries stress the importance of heavy industry. this is what created the mighty red army. stalins 5 year plans to turn USSR from agricultuul country, to heavy industrial country.


i never said let them take the guns home with them but more there be assembly points.There should be some kind of regular army with elected officers but if the revolution was under threat a people's milita should make the backbone of any defence.

Stalin's 5 year plan is stained with the blood of the people who suffered to make it happen

[RedSovietCCCP]

I get what you are saying revolution hero. First of all I know thats how the Soviet Union collapsed. I'm not saying spend most of your budget on the military. All I'm sayin is getting you economy going and then start to budget the countrys money on the military. Of course the people come first. Once you have enough money, start thinking about home defense because this isn't a perfect world, there will be a threat to the nations security, it depends who they are and how powerful they are (usa,nato).

[deimos]

armed people is not a good idea as it would lead to more crime (could you imagine every criminal in the country having a gun!)

iam sure there are also more of those erfurt guys as we believe.Imagine everyone has a gun........

[hobo]

Arming a country is a bad idea, but having an army that can be turned on the goverment is also a bad idea. I think small elite groups of soldiers who are very loyal to the socialist cause of their country, who could very quickly train and arm the workers in order to otherthrow an ocupping force.