Fox Hunting

[Hate Is Art]

For or Against?

The best method of getting rid of fox hunting would be abolish the upper classes

I was called a "Racist Prejudiced Narrow Minded Idiot" Today at the Labour Party Conference for saying this?!

Shows the intelligence of the people we are dealing with.

I would consider banning this blood (toff) sport a great way to kick the wankers in the balls.

Next Up, Banning golf.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by The Arcadian [email protected] 30 2004, 04:39 PM
For or Against?

The best method of getting rid of fox hunting would be abolish the upper classes

I was called a "Racist Prejudiced Narrow Minded Idiot" Today at the Labour Party Conference for saying this?!

Shows the intelligence of the people we are dealing with.

I would consider banning this blood (toff) sport a great way to kick the wankers in the balls.

Next Up, Banning golf.
What you suggest is in fact prejudice. "Elimination of the upper class"?

What is considered upper class? Is it based on salary? Net worth? Where do you draw the line? Why is someone worth one million dollars, or any arbitrrary number, subject to your scrutiny? Why do you wish to punish the successful? I am middle class American, but in Zimbabwe I would be considered upper class. So, what do you do with me?

Please...

[T_SP]

No, it is stuck up idiots who consider themselves better than others because of their bloodline!!

[Forward Union]

Upper class can really only be defined by a state of mind, although that state of mind is material based. Some upper class citizens would probably give it up if they weren't held to their social status,

[truthaddict11]

how is golf upper class?

[Hiero]

How is fox hunting upper class. I seen the protest at London and most look like woking class.

[Hiero]

Originally posted by Marxist [email protected] 30 2004, 07:01 PM
Upper class can really only be defined by a state of mind, although that state of mind is material based. Some upper class citizens would probably give it up if they weren't held to their social status,
No the upper class are just that, upper class more then anyone else. Some in working class who's "state of mind" is like that of the top class then they just have reactionary "state of mind".

[The New Yorker]

yeah lets just ban every thing fun. Fun the the the product of the bourqusie

[socialistfuture]

therw was more to the fox hunting protest than just for hunting - some of it was villagers and people livinh in rural areas being ignored by politicians.

labours getting attacked on all sides - anti war people and conservatives who wanna hunt foxes. well he said one more term at most till he retires :)

[cubist]

What you suggest is in fact prejudice. "Elimination of the upper class"?

yet allowing it on those grounds would be prejudice to the "majority" lower class?

you truely are a prick, capitalist GIMPerial

[Hate Is Art]

How is fox hunting upper class. I seen the protest at London and most look like woking class.

You haven't seen the mansions they go home too.

yeah lets just ban every thing fun. Fun the the the product of the bourqusie

Murder is the product of the Bourgeosie. Is tearing apart a small defenceless animal with hounds is fun anyway?

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by The Arcadian [email protected] 1 2004, 01:52 PM
Murder is the product of the Bourgeosie. Is tearing apart a small defenceless animal with hounds is fun anyway?
Exactly. Well, it depends who you are... ;)

[Hate Is Art]

Check the sole of your shoe, if you can peel off the face of the working class from it, you'd probably enjoy fox hunting.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 07:02 AM

yet allowing it on those grounds would be prejudice to the "majority" lower class?

you truely are a prick, capitalist GIMPerial


How does allowing any sport create prejudice?



you truely are a prick, capitalist GIMPerial

Ilove you too, sweet cheeks

[commiecrusader]

Fox hunting, not upper class?

WTF are you thinking? Do you even know who the people that broke into parliament were? One was Prince William's friend (posh as fuck), one was an old rockstar's son (posh as fuck) and i seen interviews with the other two's parents (surprise surprise, posh as fuck). The majority of people involved are posh and upper class. How do you think they can afford to live in these expensive little villages? Even the ones that sound like country bumpkins are still minted. Plus, if you were making a protest and were in the upper class, wouldn't you dress and act down, to make you and your views more appealing to the masses? Oh I think you would, I think I hit your nail right on it's little head.

[Hate Is Art]

How does allowing any sport create prejudice?

Fox Hunting isn't a sport.

[all-too-human]

The brits will riot over anything, god forbid they end up in a trade war with India.


Fox Hunting isn't a sport.
it is.

[Intifada]

it is.

So I can go around chasing you and other people I hate, with a pack of hounds, in order to kill you, then justify my actions by arguing that what I am doing is "a sport"?

:huh:

[cubist]

How does allowing any sport create prejudice?


allowing a sport which the majority of the nation believe to be wrong and wishing to have ban, ignoring them would be prejudice to that "overwhelming majority". the toff bastards don't deserve anymore rights they get enough as it is

[Freedom Writer]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 04:25 PM

So I can go around chasing you and other people I hate, with a pack of hounds, in order to kill you, then justify my actions by arguing that what I am doing is "a sport"?

:huh:
Well one of those guys "for fox hunting" said that its a sport kind of thing and a tradition (to whom?). And as I said on the other topic, killing humans is also a great human tradition and maybe a sport too. :P

[Danton]

The question isn't should we ban it, but who gives a shit? I love a fox and everything but this issue is really strictly for Toffs, farmers and tree huggers.

These Foxes need culling now and again so I'm told but the argument is over the method - A shot to the head or savaged by crazed dogs and their even crazier handlers, I doubt Foxes have a preference.

Watching the hilarious coverage of the riots I noticed one horse faced tart exclaim
"This is civil war!". If only... Another of these pro-hunt, ****s had been bashed about her snotty face and sported a huge welt and running lip. For once and once only I congratulate the police on a job well done..

On a similar note I read recently of Lamping (the underground nocturnal fox-hunt)
where lamps are shone to stun the beasts. Unfortunatley in this particular hunt a father shot his son-in law in the face, killing him. How about Toff-hunts?

[Intifada]

killing humans is also a great human tradition

Exactly. Just because something is "tradition", it does not make it right.

[Hiero]

Have they banned fox hunting all together or just "the Hunt".

[Freedom Writer]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2004, 10:59 AM

Exactly. Just because something is "tradition", it does not make it right.
Exactly my point. :)

[Hate Is Art]

Have they banned fox hunting all together or just "the Hunt".

They have banned any hunting with dogs which threatens the traditional hunt. I guess they could go out and shoot the foxes still, I guess.

[h&s]

I guess banning the hunt will just promote lamping, which can (and as anyone who's seen the news recently will know) be very dangerous, and even fatal for passers-by.


These Foxes need culling now and again
They don't though, all that needs to be done is to protect livestock from the foxes, and nothing will be killed. Problem solved.

[commiecrusader]

They have banned any hunting with dogs which threatens the traditional hunt. I guess they could go out and shoot the foxes still, I guess.
Yeah it's only banning hunting with dogs. People will still be allowed to go out lamping and shooting the foxes. (Lamping is where they go out with a bright light shining it about. If a fox looks into it it gets transfixed and then they shoot it. Some kid got shot by his dad last week doing this).


I said on the other topic, killing humans is also a great human tradition and maybe a sport too.
Yes it is I totally agree. Bring back the gladiators lol :lol:

[Freedom Writer]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2004, 11:50 PM
Yes it is I totally agree. Bring back the gladiators lol :lol:
HAHA! Yes, indeed bring back the gladiators! :lol:

[cubist]

hammer and sickle, fox's actually are like vermin they do need culling just not with dogs

[RedAnarchist]

No animal should be killed for the pleasure of a human. Fox hunting and all other blood sports must be banned. Why some people in society feel the need to chase foxes with hounds for miles then watcgh the hounds tear the fox to pieces then smear their children's faces with blood is beyond me. Fox hunting is cruel, barbaric and it needs to be consigned to the history books.

[NovelGentry]

Hounds tearing foxes to shreds? Smearing childrens faces with blood? Oh my. I just wanted some food -- it was the dogs that chose to get the fox for me.

[h&s]

hammer and sickle, fox's actually are like vermin they do need culling just not with dogs

I know they are pests, but why do they need culling? If the landowners protected their tenant's land from the foxes getting in there would be no problem. Just leave nature alone.

[commiecrusader]

I know they are pests, but why do they need culling? If the landowners protected their tenant's land from the foxes getting in there would be no problem. Just leave nature alone.
Exactly. And without eating the tenant's animals, the foxes numbers will reduce back to natural levels since they will live off a conventional amount of food they can find. Probably even to below natural levels since we have destroyed so much of their habitat.