1984, In Real Life

[Subversive Pessimist]

The US is about to produce a device where you can keep track with your workers, and follow them via a device so you know at all times where their location is.
I think it's finally clear that they do not want to limit themselves to exploitation of the workers. They want us to become their slaves, litteraly.

I do not doubt, in fact I think this is most likely that they will start making rules that says basically taht if you do not work and have the ability to do so, you will be punished. This also means that weak and handicapped people will starve to death, because they will also cut the last bit of reforms that are going to make us workers calm down a bit.

Also, private business have started taking over the security cams and other things in order to keep track of people. Companies are in America generally more trusted then the government, so it seems that they will expand especially in this area in the future. The UN is also planning taking control of the internet.
Also, they talk about that libraries are going to be ended by 2030. They don't want to have it. That was the last bit of something that reminds us of communism we have left.

It seems to me that this world is turning ever faster to a big brother society, controlled by companies, and those organizations where their sole existence is to support big business.

What do you think?

[fernando]

It has been like that...like always...the rich people control what's going on since they are the ones that make sure the president can actually become a president.

[Dreadnaht1]

Of course, technology has always seemed like a threat to our way of being as workers. It can replace people in the workplace, make companies more efficient, and its very construction can lead to out-sourcing. It's use in the workplace is extremely questionable by a moral standard, most definetly, and some companies will try to use newer technology to exploit their employees. However, I'm sure this is only certain companies with very low standards and any decent company who appreciates their employees would not stoop to a level of using technology, such as this, to take advantage of every employee's mistake.

If a company I worked for began doing this, I'd be outta there faster then you can say vote Nader.

As for punishing the weak and handicapped for being challenged, I doubt this will ever happen. There are too many legal hot-spots that companies are not willing to get involved with by prosecuting the differently abled.

As for the U.N. taking control of the internet, I doubt this will happen. The interent is by far too large, complex, privately owned, and profitable to be privatized by a single orginization or entity. There's too much involved in the interent both on a business level as well as on a personal level for a group to take it over.

And, even if they did somehow succeed in such a task, I'm sure a new form of interent would come into existence, kind of like how Napster was out-ruled but KaZaa is not.

Although, I can see the whole library thing by 2030. That could very well be true, since we really have no need for text. We have the interent now, plus any of such leftist literature would be available to all for free via internet. I would think that would be better then having only certain copies of such literature in certain libraries, etc.

Overall, I think our world is certainly changing. And by the looks of shit, I have a feeling that G.W. Bush might be around for another four years <_< , if someone doesn&#39;t assasinate him first. :lol: We&#39;re definetly going to be in alot of shit, so I don&#39;t doubt that our futures and the futures of our children are gravely at stake.

[Poop]

That&#39;s ridiculous. Our culture in no way resembles 1984. For example, right now, we&#39;re at war with Sadaam. We&#39;ve always been at war with Sadaam. We were never allies with Sadaam (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm).

[Subversive Pessimist]

George W. Bush is not the main issues. There are hundreds, if not thousands of dubya&#39;s and cheneys ruling the world already.


We have the interent now, plus any of such leftist literature would be available to all for free via internet.

Don&#39;t be so sure. The companies these days are renting hackers to spread fakes on the internet (that is why when you download a movie from kazaa that the screen is all black). Similar things could also happen sites with free books. The companies might hire a hacker to destroy or put down the site, so people would look for other alternatives.

In my opinion, the most likely scenario is that they will sell the books for a few dollars on the internet, and relatively slowly but steady rising the price, just like they do now these days with films, etc.

[che's long lost daughter]

The idea of having a device that monitors workers is absurd. That will definitely step on the rights of people to privacy. And you are right CS, people will not just be exploited by the employers but they will become properties of the companies they work for and that is really sick.

Dreadnaht1, it is a fact that machines are rapidly replacing humans because there is no doubt that machines are faster, more efficient and would not complain nor would stage protests and rallies. But there are still certain occupations that machines could not just replace and these occupations are ones where human interaction and emotions are needed so, I think it is really not the doom of human workers. Can a machine stop a baby cry? Can a machine talk to a depressed individual? Can a machine relieve pain by touch? Definitely not.


I think if the UN controlled the internet, men will get sad because they will probably be not able to visit porn websites to download porn movies. Oh, you pwoor boys have no more porn to watch. Wait, I forgot, they can still buy porn videos. But too bad they have to pay for it when they used to see it for free. Seriously, it is not possible for the UN to control something as large and extensive, (or maybe even endless) thing such as the internet.

[monkeydust]

I can&#39;t see the UN controlling the internet anytime soon......

But I have heard calls, In the UK at least, for public libraries to be shut down or reduced in number......which I think is a great shame.

As for "1984" states, it seems that you may have a point. Again, I can only speak for the UK, but it seems that soon identity cards, with fingerprints and the like, will become compulsory. And civil liberties in certain areas seem to be being threatened under the pretence of this "war on terror".