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fallen camarade
29th September 2004, 19:47
I don't usually come to the political forums, so I don't know if this has ever been done before, but I have a simple, and very commonly asked question to those who fiercly oppose governmental action...
What are you going to do about it?
I'm just curious as to what things people in here would suggest that everyone do to stop the issue. Book reccomendations, voting strategy, picketing, marching, websites, flyers...whatever. What sort of things can anybody do, and should be doing, to help the process become better.
I'm very interested to hear what you all have to say.
fallen camarade
29th September 2004, 19:47
I don't usually come to the political forums, so I don't know if this has ever been done before, but I have a simple, and very commonly asked question to those who fiercly oppose governmental action...
What are you going to do about it?
I'm just curious as to what things people in here would suggest that everyone do to stop the issue. Book reccomendations, voting strategy, picketing, marching, websites, flyers...whatever. What sort of things can anybody do, and should be doing, to help the process become better.
I'm very interested to hear what you all have to say.
fallen camarade
29th September 2004, 19:47
I don't usually come to the political forums, so I don't know if this has ever been done before, but I have a simple, and very commonly asked question to those who fiercly oppose governmental action...
What are you going to do about it?
I'm just curious as to what things people in here would suggest that everyone do to stop the issue. Book reccomendations, voting strategy, picketing, marching, websites, flyers...whatever. What sort of things can anybody do, and should be doing, to help the process become better.
I'm very interested to hear what you all have to say.
Subversive Pessimist
29th September 2004, 20:49
What's Your Weapon?
Anything that can kill those who stand in the way for the revolution.
Guerilla warfare, courage and responsibility. These are my my weapons. Together they form the basis for defeating any enemy.
Everyone should at least considering using this weapon as a viable and just method in order to defeat the bourgeoisie.
Subversive Pessimist
29th September 2004, 20:49
What's Your Weapon?
Anything that can kill those who stand in the way for the revolution.
Guerilla warfare, courage and responsibility. These are my my weapons. Together they form the basis for defeating any enemy.
Everyone should at least considering using this weapon as a viable and just method in order to defeat the bourgeoisie.
Subversive Pessimist
29th September 2004, 20:49
What's Your Weapon?
Anything that can kill those who stand in the way for the revolution.
Guerilla warfare, courage and responsibility. These are my my weapons. Together they form the basis for defeating any enemy.
Everyone should at least considering using this weapon as a viable and just method in order to defeat the bourgeoisie.
ÑóẊîöʼn
29th September 2004, 21:05
The Truth.
ÑóẊîöʼn
29th September 2004, 21:05
The Truth.
ÑóẊîöʼn
29th September 2004, 21:05
The Truth.
Dr. Rosenpenis
30th September 2004, 01:08
Book reccomendations, voting strategy, picketing, marching, websites, flyers...whatever. What sort of things can anybody do, and should be doing, to help the process become better.
Stuff by Marx, Lenin, Engels, etc. is pretty good. Trotsky had some good stuff to say as well. Never read anything by Stalin or mao, but I reckon' they've written some okay stuff. Stuff by Herbert Marcuse is pretty good. Noam Chomsky's always a good read.
Voting is a bad strategy. Never buy into the lies of bourgeois politics. They'll never solve anything. Condoning any bourgeois politician or any bourgeois agenda is reactionary.
Protesting is good. Always good to let them know you don't like their shit.
And organizing is of course good as well.
What you can do to advance the process, I reckon', is go to a region or nation where "the bourgeoisie has exhausted it's means" and prepare to overthrow some capies from power.
Dr. Rosenpenis
30th September 2004, 01:08
Book reccomendations, voting strategy, picketing, marching, websites, flyers...whatever. What sort of things can anybody do, and should be doing, to help the process become better.
Stuff by Marx, Lenin, Engels, etc. is pretty good. Trotsky had some good stuff to say as well. Never read anything by Stalin or mao, but I reckon' they've written some okay stuff. Stuff by Herbert Marcuse is pretty good. Noam Chomsky's always a good read.
Voting is a bad strategy. Never buy into the lies of bourgeois politics. They'll never solve anything. Condoning any bourgeois politician or any bourgeois agenda is reactionary.
Protesting is good. Always good to let them know you don't like their shit.
And organizing is of course good as well.
What you can do to advance the process, I reckon', is go to a region or nation where "the bourgeoisie has exhausted it's means" and prepare to overthrow some capies from power.
Dr. Rosenpenis
30th September 2004, 01:08
Book reccomendations, voting strategy, picketing, marching, websites, flyers...whatever. What sort of things can anybody do, and should be doing, to help the process become better.
Stuff by Marx, Lenin, Engels, etc. is pretty good. Trotsky had some good stuff to say as well. Never read anything by Stalin or mao, but I reckon' they've written some okay stuff. Stuff by Herbert Marcuse is pretty good. Noam Chomsky's always a good read.
Voting is a bad strategy. Never buy into the lies of bourgeois politics. They'll never solve anything. Condoning any bourgeois politician or any bourgeois agenda is reactionary.
Protesting is good. Always good to let them know you don't like their shit.
And organizing is of course good as well.
What you can do to advance the process, I reckon', is go to a region or nation where "the bourgeoisie has exhausted it's means" and prepare to overthrow some capies from power.
fuerzasocialista
30th September 2004, 01:30
guerrilla warefare and education
fuerzasocialista
30th September 2004, 01:30
guerrilla warefare and education
fuerzasocialista
30th September 2004, 01:30
guerrilla warefare and education
Freedom Writer
30th September 2004, 01:34
Originally posted by
[email protected] 29 2004, 08:05 PM
The Truth.
.. and Facts. :)
Freedom Writer
30th September 2004, 01:34
Originally posted by
[email protected] 29 2004, 08:05 PM
The Truth.
.. and Facts. :)
Freedom Writer
30th September 2004, 01:34
Originally posted by
[email protected] 29 2004, 08:05 PM
The Truth.
.. and Facts. :)
Wiesty
30th September 2004, 03:28
fact
Wiesty
30th September 2004, 03:28
fact
Wiesty
30th September 2004, 03:28
fact
NovelGentry
30th September 2004, 04:47
A couple of .22's and in the future an M14.
NovelGentry
30th September 2004, 04:47
A couple of .22's and in the future an M14.
NovelGentry
30th September 2004, 04:47
A couple of .22's and in the future an M14.
Skeptic
30th September 2004, 04:49
The Path to Power
The People Must Wage a Revolutionary War
Marx once noted that “Force is the midwife of every old society pregnant with the new.” The old ruling classes have never voluntarily stepped down from power. They will clutch their butcher knives until they are taken out.
The proletariat cannot use the bourgeois state to remake society, or even to bring into being a single one of the great changes just laid out. Whether *“democratic” or openly terroristic, the bourgeois state is a machinery of repression. It is an expression of the basic capitalist relations it serves and enforces. It has been developed and refined over centuries.
Thus the proletariat must overthrow and thoroughly smash and dismantle the bourgeois state. And that requires war. In the words of Mao Tsetung: “A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.”
War brings with it great bloodshed and destruction, and the proletariat will ultimately abolish war. But this will be done, and can only be done, by abolishing the system of capitalist accumulation and class oppression that constantly gives rise to war.
Could the masses actually win a revolutionary war against imperialism? This is a serious, literally life-and-death, question, one of great complexity. But the short answer is, yes. While the imperialists are strong, beneath the surface they have weaknesses. They have suffered defeats in the past—including Vietnam and Korea—and they can be defeated today.
The key to victory is correctly applying the Maoist military line of people’s war, which shows how a force that starts out weak can ultimately defeat a more powerful one. The tactics and guiding military strategy of people’s war enable the masses of people to support the revolutionary war, to actively join it in ever-increasing numbers, and through it to develop their ability to become masters of society.
People’s war in a country like this would begin with mass insurrections centered in the urban areas. These would lead to the establishment of a revolutionary regime in as much of the territory as possible, and then the waging of a civil war to finally and completely defeat the old ruling class and its counter-revolutionary armed forces and to consolidate the rule of the proletariat in as great a territory as possible.
Such a war should only be launched when the proletariat has a real chance of winning. This requires three basic factors: first, a serious crisis in society and in government; second, mass upheaval and rebellion among the proletariat and other sections of the people; and third, a vanguard party capable of turning the mass upheaval and rebellion into an organized insurrection and giving it overall leadership and direction.
Once such a situation does emerge, the party must lead the masses to hit and hold nothing back, delivering a powerful enough blow to crack the authority and ruling structures of the enemy. This will cause still more masses to surge forward to join the people’s war and begin a dynamic that increasingly brings out the weaknesses and counters the strengths of the imperialist forces while bringing to the fore the great strategic strengths of the revolutionary forces, relying on and activating ever greater numbers of the masses in revolutionary war and finally carrying that war to victory.
The People Need Leadership to Make Revolution and Carry It Forward; That Leadership Is the Party
Oppression breeds resistance—this is a law proven by thousands of years of class society. But in the words of Mao, “if there is to be a revolution, there must be a revolutionary party.”
When you consider what it would involve to launch and win a revolutionary war, the need for tested leadership quickly becomes clear. But the necessity for the party goes much deeper than that. The proletariat needs a party committed to fight for its fundamental class interests at every step, bringing people a clear understanding of the problem (capitalism) and the solution (proletarian revolution).
The party must put the revolutionary interests of the proletariat, not just in the particular country but worldwide, at the forefront and base itself on Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, fusing this outlook and science with the experience and sentiments of the proletariat and other oppressed masses. Only in this way will the revolutionary showdown come to be and will the proletariat be capable of winning.
V. I. Lenin, the great leader of the Russian Revolution, first developed the theory and practice of the proletarian vanguard party. This party is based on the most advanced revolutionary theory and organized in a way to lead the proletariat in a revolutionary struggle with the goal of overthrowing capitalism and transforming society.
While the masses develop class feelings and revolutionary sentiments on their own, they need a party organization to raise those sentiments to the level of class-consciousness—that is, a basic understanding of the two fundamentally antagonistic forces in society, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, and the need for proletarian revolution. And while the masses can and will wage heroic struggle on their own, they require the party to take the diverse streams of struggle and lead and unite them into a revolutionary flood-tide against the system.
The party must be built with deep roots among the proletariat, first of all, but also among the middle strata. It must be organized in such a way as to take into account the basic antagonistic relation between the proletariat and its vanguard on the one side, and the imperialist ruling class on the other. It has to be based on the recognition that the strategic orientation of the ruling class is to crush anything that poses a serious challenge to it. It has to be organized in accordance with the party’s strategic orientation of overthrowing the system through mass revolutionary warfare, when the time comes.
The party must have a core of professional revolutionaries as its backbone and must be built in such a way as to be able to combat the spying, disruption, sabotage, and outright murderous actions of the enemy’s political police and its overall apparatus of repression. Only such a party can fully unleash the masses’ conscious activism, train the most advanced as revolutionaries, and take on the bourgeoisie for real.
The party is organized on the basis of democratic centralism. This principle combines centralized leadership and the greatest degree of discipline on the one hand, with the fullest discussion and struggle over line and policies within the party and the selection and political supervision of party leadership by the party membership on the other hand.
The mass line is the method through which the party both learns from and leads the masses. The party takes the ideas of the masses and concentrates these ideas into a more fully correct and all-sided view of reality. It then returns that synthesis to the masses in the form of line and policies, winning the masses to take these up and uniting with the masses to carry them out. This is a key tool in welding the unity of the party and masses to advance the proletariat’s revolutionary struggle.
The party cannot bring on a revolutionary crisis solely through its own efforts, but neither can it sit back and wait for a revolutionary situation to fall into its lap. The party can and must hasten the arrival of such a crisis, struggling to strengthen the “pole” of revolution in society and “preparing the ground” for revolution, even as it awaits still greater shifts and turns brought on by larger events like crises, wars, etc.
From the Draft Programme of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA
Skeptic
30th September 2004, 04:49
The Path to Power
The People Must Wage a Revolutionary War
Marx once noted that “Force is the midwife of every old society pregnant with the new.” The old ruling classes have never voluntarily stepped down from power. They will clutch their butcher knives until they are taken out.
The proletariat cannot use the bourgeois state to remake society, or even to bring into being a single one of the great changes just laid out. Whether *“democratic” or openly terroristic, the bourgeois state is a machinery of repression. It is an expression of the basic capitalist relations it serves and enforces. It has been developed and refined over centuries.
Thus the proletariat must overthrow and thoroughly smash and dismantle the bourgeois state. And that requires war. In the words of Mao Tsetung: “A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.”
War brings with it great bloodshed and destruction, and the proletariat will ultimately abolish war. But this will be done, and can only be done, by abolishing the system of capitalist accumulation and class oppression that constantly gives rise to war.
Could the masses actually win a revolutionary war against imperialism? This is a serious, literally life-and-death, question, one of great complexity. But the short answer is, yes. While the imperialists are strong, beneath the surface they have weaknesses. They have suffered defeats in the past—including Vietnam and Korea—and they can be defeated today.
The key to victory is correctly applying the Maoist military line of people’s war, which shows how a force that starts out weak can ultimately defeat a more powerful one. The tactics and guiding military strategy of people’s war enable the masses of people to support the revolutionary war, to actively join it in ever-increasing numbers, and through it to develop their ability to become masters of society.
People’s war in a country like this would begin with mass insurrections centered in the urban areas. These would lead to the establishment of a revolutionary regime in as much of the territory as possible, and then the waging of a civil war to finally and completely defeat the old ruling class and its counter-revolutionary armed forces and to consolidate the rule of the proletariat in as great a territory as possible.
Such a war should only be launched when the proletariat has a real chance of winning. This requires three basic factors: first, a serious crisis in society and in government; second, mass upheaval and rebellion among the proletariat and other sections of the people; and third, a vanguard party capable of turning the mass upheaval and rebellion into an organized insurrection and giving it overall leadership and direction.
Once such a situation does emerge, the party must lead the masses to hit and hold nothing back, delivering a powerful enough blow to crack the authority and ruling structures of the enemy. This will cause still more masses to surge forward to join the people’s war and begin a dynamic that increasingly brings out the weaknesses and counters the strengths of the imperialist forces while bringing to the fore the great strategic strengths of the revolutionary forces, relying on and activating ever greater numbers of the masses in revolutionary war and finally carrying that war to victory.
The People Need Leadership to Make Revolution and Carry It Forward; That Leadership Is the Party
Oppression breeds resistance—this is a law proven by thousands of years of class society. But in the words of Mao, “if there is to be a revolution, there must be a revolutionary party.”
When you consider what it would involve to launch and win a revolutionary war, the need for tested leadership quickly becomes clear. But the necessity for the party goes much deeper than that. The proletariat needs a party committed to fight for its fundamental class interests at every step, bringing people a clear understanding of the problem (capitalism) and the solution (proletarian revolution).
The party must put the revolutionary interests of the proletariat, not just in the particular country but worldwide, at the forefront and base itself on Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, fusing this outlook and science with the experience and sentiments of the proletariat and other oppressed masses. Only in this way will the revolutionary showdown come to be and will the proletariat be capable of winning.
V. I. Lenin, the great leader of the Russian Revolution, first developed the theory and practice of the proletarian vanguard party. This party is based on the most advanced revolutionary theory and organized in a way to lead the proletariat in a revolutionary struggle with the goal of overthrowing capitalism and transforming society.
While the masses develop class feelings and revolutionary sentiments on their own, they need a party organization to raise those sentiments to the level of class-consciousness—that is, a basic understanding of the two fundamentally antagonistic forces in society, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, and the need for proletarian revolution. And while the masses can and will wage heroic struggle on their own, they require the party to take the diverse streams of struggle and lead and unite them into a revolutionary flood-tide against the system.
The party must be built with deep roots among the proletariat, first of all, but also among the middle strata. It must be organized in such a way as to take into account the basic antagonistic relation between the proletariat and its vanguard on the one side, and the imperialist ruling class on the other. It has to be based on the recognition that the strategic orientation of the ruling class is to crush anything that poses a serious challenge to it. It has to be organized in accordance with the party’s strategic orientation of overthrowing the system through mass revolutionary warfare, when the time comes.
The party must have a core of professional revolutionaries as its backbone and must be built in such a way as to be able to combat the spying, disruption, sabotage, and outright murderous actions of the enemy’s political police and its overall apparatus of repression. Only such a party can fully unleash the masses’ conscious activism, train the most advanced as revolutionaries, and take on the bourgeoisie for real.
The party is organized on the basis of democratic centralism. This principle combines centralized leadership and the greatest degree of discipline on the one hand, with the fullest discussion and struggle over line and policies within the party and the selection and political supervision of party leadership by the party membership on the other hand.
The mass line is the method through which the party both learns from and leads the masses. The party takes the ideas of the masses and concentrates these ideas into a more fully correct and all-sided view of reality. It then returns that synthesis to the masses in the form of line and policies, winning the masses to take these up and uniting with the masses to carry them out. This is a key tool in welding the unity of the party and masses to advance the proletariat’s revolutionary struggle.
The party cannot bring on a revolutionary crisis solely through its own efforts, but neither can it sit back and wait for a revolutionary situation to fall into its lap. The party can and must hasten the arrival of such a crisis, struggling to strengthen the “pole” of revolution in society and “preparing the ground” for revolution, even as it awaits still greater shifts and turns brought on by larger events like crises, wars, etc.
From the Draft Programme of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA
Skeptic
30th September 2004, 04:49
The Path to Power
The People Must Wage a Revolutionary War
Marx once noted that “Force is the midwife of every old society pregnant with the new.” The old ruling classes have never voluntarily stepped down from power. They will clutch their butcher knives until they are taken out.
The proletariat cannot use the bourgeois state to remake society, or even to bring into being a single one of the great changes just laid out. Whether *“democratic” or openly terroristic, the bourgeois state is a machinery of repression. It is an expression of the basic capitalist relations it serves and enforces. It has been developed and refined over centuries.
Thus the proletariat must overthrow and thoroughly smash and dismantle the bourgeois state. And that requires war. In the words of Mao Tsetung: “A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.”
War brings with it great bloodshed and destruction, and the proletariat will ultimately abolish war. But this will be done, and can only be done, by abolishing the system of capitalist accumulation and class oppression that constantly gives rise to war.
Could the masses actually win a revolutionary war against imperialism? This is a serious, literally life-and-death, question, one of great complexity. But the short answer is, yes. While the imperialists are strong, beneath the surface they have weaknesses. They have suffered defeats in the past—including Vietnam and Korea—and they can be defeated today.
The key to victory is correctly applying the Maoist military line of people’s war, which shows how a force that starts out weak can ultimately defeat a more powerful one. The tactics and guiding military strategy of people’s war enable the masses of people to support the revolutionary war, to actively join it in ever-increasing numbers, and through it to develop their ability to become masters of society.
People’s war in a country like this would begin with mass insurrections centered in the urban areas. These would lead to the establishment of a revolutionary regime in as much of the territory as possible, and then the waging of a civil war to finally and completely defeat the old ruling class and its counter-revolutionary armed forces and to consolidate the rule of the proletariat in as great a territory as possible.
Such a war should only be launched when the proletariat has a real chance of winning. This requires three basic factors: first, a serious crisis in society and in government; second, mass upheaval and rebellion among the proletariat and other sections of the people; and third, a vanguard party capable of turning the mass upheaval and rebellion into an organized insurrection and giving it overall leadership and direction.
Once such a situation does emerge, the party must lead the masses to hit and hold nothing back, delivering a powerful enough blow to crack the authority and ruling structures of the enemy. This will cause still more masses to surge forward to join the people’s war and begin a dynamic that increasingly brings out the weaknesses and counters the strengths of the imperialist forces while bringing to the fore the great strategic strengths of the revolutionary forces, relying on and activating ever greater numbers of the masses in revolutionary war and finally carrying that war to victory.
The People Need Leadership to Make Revolution and Carry It Forward; That Leadership Is the Party
Oppression breeds resistance—this is a law proven by thousands of years of class society. But in the words of Mao, “if there is to be a revolution, there must be a revolutionary party.”
When you consider what it would involve to launch and win a revolutionary war, the need for tested leadership quickly becomes clear. But the necessity for the party goes much deeper than that. The proletariat needs a party committed to fight for its fundamental class interests at every step, bringing people a clear understanding of the problem (capitalism) and the solution (proletarian revolution).
The party must put the revolutionary interests of the proletariat, not just in the particular country but worldwide, at the forefront and base itself on Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, fusing this outlook and science with the experience and sentiments of the proletariat and other oppressed masses. Only in this way will the revolutionary showdown come to be and will the proletariat be capable of winning.
V. I. Lenin, the great leader of the Russian Revolution, first developed the theory and practice of the proletarian vanguard party. This party is based on the most advanced revolutionary theory and organized in a way to lead the proletariat in a revolutionary struggle with the goal of overthrowing capitalism and transforming society.
While the masses develop class feelings and revolutionary sentiments on their own, they need a party organization to raise those sentiments to the level of class-consciousness—that is, a basic understanding of the two fundamentally antagonistic forces in society, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, and the need for proletarian revolution. And while the masses can and will wage heroic struggle on their own, they require the party to take the diverse streams of struggle and lead and unite them into a revolutionary flood-tide against the system.
The party must be built with deep roots among the proletariat, first of all, but also among the middle strata. It must be organized in such a way as to take into account the basic antagonistic relation between the proletariat and its vanguard on the one side, and the imperialist ruling class on the other. It has to be based on the recognition that the strategic orientation of the ruling class is to crush anything that poses a serious challenge to it. It has to be organized in accordance with the party’s strategic orientation of overthrowing the system through mass revolutionary warfare, when the time comes.
The party must have a core of professional revolutionaries as its backbone and must be built in such a way as to be able to combat the spying, disruption, sabotage, and outright murderous actions of the enemy’s political police and its overall apparatus of repression. Only such a party can fully unleash the masses’ conscious activism, train the most advanced as revolutionaries, and take on the bourgeoisie for real.
The party is organized on the basis of democratic centralism. This principle combines centralized leadership and the greatest degree of discipline on the one hand, with the fullest discussion and struggle over line and policies within the party and the selection and political supervision of party leadership by the party membership on the other hand.
The mass line is the method through which the party both learns from and leads the masses. The party takes the ideas of the masses and concentrates these ideas into a more fully correct and all-sided view of reality. It then returns that synthesis to the masses in the form of line and policies, winning the masses to take these up and uniting with the masses to carry them out. This is a key tool in welding the unity of the party and masses to advance the proletariat’s revolutionary struggle.
The party cannot bring on a revolutionary crisis solely through its own efforts, but neither can it sit back and wait for a revolutionary situation to fall into its lap. The party can and must hasten the arrival of such a crisis, struggling to strengthen the “pole” of revolution in society and “preparing the ground” for revolution, even as it awaits still greater shifts and turns brought on by larger events like crises, wars, etc.
From the Draft Programme of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA
apathy maybe
30th September 2004, 13:59
I believe that a broad pronged approach is needed.
Firstly is education, A good place to start are in schools and Unis. Describe the principles of Anarchism (or Communism) and debunk myths (the USSR was not socialist in any sense 'cause the differentials in power and privilege were too big). Another good place to talk to people is at your local Green party. These people are generally well intentioned but un-educated as to alternatives to capitalism. If you explain how capitalism is always going to conflict with protecting the environment and explain alternatives, you may sway some people across. The unions are also a good place to educate people.
Once people are educated (or at least partly) we may start getting representation in government (at any level). While we may oppose this form of hierarchy in the mean time it is just another tool. Vote for and support your local left parties (including the Greens). Politicians have greater access to the media and this is useful for education. Also they can help pass or block legislation if they are in a balance of power situation. One good thing they may be able to do is make the system more representative. (Make sure they don't loose sight of the main aim, abolition of the system.)
The third thing to do is to support your local militant political unions. Don't support woosy unions that only care about their members, only support unions that have a bigger political agenda (and make sure it agrees broadly with what you think).
Unions can strike on a broad range of issues and the threat of a general strike should always be held against the politicians (especially if they look like or all ready have outlawed strikes not directly related to working conditions and similar).
Coming back to the first point, students can be very political and generally have a fair bit of free time (at least at Uni). If you can persuade them to sit in at politicians offices and stuff this is always good. Another group which will benefit from the death of capitalism are farmers. Make sure you have them on yourside.
A very important part of moving society away from capitalism is the idea of communes and co-ops. A cooperative that provides its members with cheap (and good) food, clothing etc sourced from ethically good places is great. Businesses can't compete. Communes are a different matter; they also require a different mind-set. But the more people who don't cooperate with the system the better. (These can also be used to stockpile supplies).
Independent media also ties in with education. It can also be used to tell people about events, actions etc. The Internet is a great tool, but if you can somehow override the broadcasts by commercial stations, that would be great.
(A dangerous approach that is opposed by a number of people is to infiltrate the military and police. The problem is that most people who join these organisations (especially the police) aren't nice people. So while you may be able to educate a few, you may also find yourself beaten up and kicked out. One good thing you will do is learn how to use weapons.)
(Another so so idea is to form militias before the event. These can be used to defend strong points etc. They will be cracked down on however.)
When the time is right, a general strike, sit ins, (defections from the military and police), protests, support from elected politicians, taking control of media organisations, factories, schools etc. Make sure that people are well equipped to defend against attacks (gas masks, shields, etc.)
The police and military will generally fight on the side of the establishment, but if you did your job well large sections will desert (especially from working class backgrounds).
In any pitch battle, the military will win. In any guerrilla war the military may win. Today's militaries know how to fight a counter-revolutionary war. They have learnt from their mistakes. You need to learn from their mistakes as well. Study their manuals and train well.
Things also have to be done nationally (and even better internationally). It is no good only controlling a city and nothing else. This is another reason to get farmers onside.
I think that is every thing.
Blackberry
30th September 2004, 14:48
What is my weapon (tool) of number one choice? The pen (or keyboard, as it may be).
I can carry out a multitude of actions with it, including the writing of fact, "truth", argument, etc.
Hate Is Art
30th September 2004, 18:09
Anything that can kill those who stand in the way for the revolution.
Guerilla warfare, courage and responsibility. These are my my weapons. Together they form the basis for defeating any enemy.
Yes, let's go kill everyone with slightly different idea's to us or go ang fight in jungles whilst the masses laugh at us.
We are in no stage for Guerilla Warfare anywhere in the west and in very few other people.
We need a movement of the masses in co-operation and led by a strong revolutionary party. Fighting isn't always violent, and you can preach war and violence and mean it right down to the your stomach but it will get us no where.
We need solidarity and to unite with the unions in Europe in the major parties to fight for Socialism, we don't need to preach rhetoric to the converted.
monkeydust
30th September 2004, 18:43
Violence can be useful and indeed necessary.
But there's nothing inherently "cool" about killing others or fighting a guerilla war.
FriedFrog
5th October 2004, 19:06
In Guerrilla Warfare by Che Guevara, he explicitly states that violence is only the final means of promoting socialism or, indeed, communism. All other means need to be exhausted, and the time needs to be right for guerrilla warfare, as The Arcadian Dream says.
redtrigger
5th October 2004, 22:33
I believe in knowledge and truth first, protest and organization second, and violence as a last resort. And by last resort, I mean if nothing happens after several attempts. Change, even if it is slow is still change.
"Generations to come will find it hard to believe that a man such as this walked the Earth in flesh and blood."
Albert Einstein (Arguably one of the smartest men to ever live.) said this about Ghandi. Has anyone ever said anything like this about a person who perpetuates violence.
Anyone can be violent, capitalists are all the time. Great men educate themselves, they gain control by being better, through strength of will not idiotic brawn. Ghandi drove out an empire without even a peashooter. The same with Dr. King and even Jesus.
You may say, "Why bring up Jesus, he is an object of faith, not fit for communist ideology." He was also a man, who achieved what he believed in through peace regardless of personal cost, the man took on an empire and won. He did it for the common good of society, I would say that is pretty communist, an induvidual putting the good of society over himself.
Debs'atron
6th October 2004, 04:26
I don't think a US armed revolution is a realistic idea. The US government is so in control, and the news is so full of money, a revolution would be a neo nazi militant group. General education is the ideal way, but its not like communism has'nt been around a hundred years. The problem is conveying the facts and ideas to the common man. Who ever controls the information controls the masses.
NovelGentry
6th October 2004, 04:29
Generations to come will find it hard to believe that a man such as this walked the Earth in flesh and blood. I'm talking about Hitler btw.
Has anyone ever said anything like this about a person who perpetuates violence.
Yes, I just did.
h&s
6th October 2004, 15:31
The key to victory is correctly applying the Maoist military line of people’s war, which shows how a force that starts out weak can ultimately defeat a more powerful one. The tactics and guiding military strategy of people’s war enable the masses of people to support the revolutionary war, to actively join it in ever-increasing numbers, and through it to develop their ability to become masters of society.
Of course, why didn't I think of that before? <_<
Enough of all this revolutionary/guerilla war bullshit, the real and only true weapon of the Communists (except for the truth/facts, of course) are the trade unions. Warfare gives you the power to rule, but does it give you the right? Any group can force their way into power with the right military tactics and propaganda, but the right to rule is that for the working class to give to themselves, via strike action.
Hate Is Art
6th October 2004, 19:30
Enough of all this revolutionary/guerilla war bullshit, the real and only true weapon of the Communists (except for the truth/facts, of course) are the trade unions. Warfare gives you the power to rule, but does it give you the right? Any group can force their way into power with the right military tactics and propaganda, but the right to rule is that for the working class to give to themselves, via strike action.
Right on sister!!!! Which is why we need to concentrate on reforming the Labour in Britain not splintering so many times Michael Howard could use as toothpicks.
Skeptic
7th October 2004, 00:24
Mao Tse Tung said: "Without State power all is illusion." You can see how far scrambling for crumbs and handouts from Capitalist bosses have gotten us in the last decades. Labor movements in advanced Capitalist countries are being forced to retreat from demands. The inequality in most countries, especially the United Snakes, is worsening. We need socialism, not Capitalism. Backing more priviledged workers in Unions ignores peasants and others. We need a break with business as usual. We need radical change.
comrade_mufasa
7th October 2004, 01:36
My kung fu. WU-TANG 4-EVER
Hugo_ChaveZ
9th October 2004, 12:32
u have to read all Nietzsche books if you want to change the world, Nietzsche explains how the world works. We need revolutionary supermen that can understand the concept of the will to power, the superman and the eternal return. Without it you will be a smart revolutionary but not be able to change the world, to destroy old values for a new socialist libertarian world
Hugo_Chavez
Xvall
10th October 2004, 16:46
Originally posted by
[email protected] 7 2004, 12:36 AM
My kung fu. WU-TANG 4-EVER
LMAO.
u have to read all Nietzsche books if you want to change the world, Nietzsche explains how the world works. We need revolutionary supermen that can understand the concept of the will to power, the superman and the eternal return. Without it you will be a smart revolutionary but not be able to change the world, to destroy old values for a new socialist libertarian world
LMFAO.
CPK
11th October 2004, 02:21
nails, teeth, feet, fists, boots, rocks, sticks, etc. j/k.
My weapons of choice would be...
My 8mm Mauser Rifle (it's a beautiful thing)
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