Your Favorite Political Band?

[RageAgainstTheKennedys]

I know this has probalby been up on the boards but im new so i would like to see what you guys think.

my favorite political band are the dead kennedys then the clash then rage.

[RageAgainstTheKennedys]

I know this has probalby been up on the boards but im new so i would like to see what you guys think.

my favorite political band are the dead kennedys then the clash then rage.

[RageAgainstTheKennedys]

I know this has probalby been up on the boards but im new so i would like to see what you guys think.

my favorite political band are the dead kennedys then the clash then rage.

[Poop]

RATM, then Clash, and that's it. I don't listen to a lot of politcal music.

[Poop]

RATM, then Clash, and that's it. I don't listen to a lot of politcal music.

[Poop]

RATM, then Clash, and that's it. I don't listen to a lot of politcal music.

[Hampton]

Probally Rise Against or Against me. Although there are the old favorite Bad Religion and Anti Flag, though I was never that big of a Anti fan.

There are other but I don't think that singing one political song, or at least one that most would be considered political does not make them a "political' band.

[Hampton]

Probally Rise Against or Against me. Although there are the old favorite Bad Religion and Anti Flag, though I was never that big of a Anti fan.

There are other but I don't think that singing one political song, or at least one that most would be considered political does not make them a "political' band.

[Hampton]

Probally Rise Against or Against me. Although there are the old favorite Bad Religion and Anti Flag, though I was never that big of a Anti fan.

There are other but I don't think that singing one political song, or at least one that most would be considered political does not make them a "political' band.

[The Forum Idiot]

The Clash...err...I heard Sleater-Kinney did some political stuff so I'lla dd them....i doubt L7 wrote anything political but they were pretty active...hmm....Bob Dylan was political right? Paul Simon deals with third world stuff and a wee tad bit of politics...

[The Forum Idiot]

The Clash...err...I heard Sleater-Kinney did some political stuff so I'lla dd them....i doubt L7 wrote anything political but they were pretty active...hmm....Bob Dylan was political right? Paul Simon deals with third world stuff and a wee tad bit of politics...

[The Forum Idiot]

The Clash...err...I heard Sleater-Kinney did some political stuff so I'lla dd them....i doubt L7 wrote anything political but they were pretty active...hmm....Bob Dylan was political right? Paul Simon deals with third world stuff and a wee tad bit of politics...

[refuse_resist]

There are so many I can name. But a lot of the punk and some of the hardcore music I listen to is very political.

Here are a few of them...

Agnostic Front
Dead Kennedys
Suicidal Tendencies
Aus-Rotten
Oppressed Logic
The Exploited
Crass
Oi Polloi
Treason
TSOL
Sepultura
Fear Factory
Rage Against The Machine
Sick of it All

[refuse_resist]

There are so many I can name. But a lot of the punk and some of the hardcore music I listen to is very political.

Here are a few of them...

Agnostic Front
Dead Kennedys
Suicidal Tendencies
Aus-Rotten
Oppressed Logic
The Exploited
Crass
Oi Polloi
Treason
TSOL
Sepultura
Fear Factory
Rage Against The Machine
Sick of it All

[refuse_resist]

There are so many I can name. But a lot of the punk and some of the hardcore music I listen to is very political.

Here are a few of them...

Agnostic Front
Dead Kennedys
Suicidal Tendencies
Aus-Rotten
Oppressed Logic
The Exploited
Crass
Oi Polloi
Treason
TSOL
Sepultura
Fear Factory
Rage Against The Machine
Sick of it All

[commiecrusader]

NOFX are wicked (Franco-Unamerican is an awesome song), so are Bad Religion and Rage. Most punk bands (proper punk bands NOT Blink 182 lol) do at least one political song.

Does the way that Greenday have jumped on the anti-Bush bandwagon to boost record sales piss anyone other than me off?

[commiecrusader]

NOFX are wicked (Franco-Unamerican is an awesome song), so are Bad Religion and Rage. Most punk bands (proper punk bands NOT Blink 182 lol) do at least one political song.

Does the way that Greenday have jumped on the anti-Bush bandwagon to boost record sales piss anyone other than me off?

[commiecrusader]

NOFX are wicked (Franco-Unamerican is an awesome song), so are Bad Religion and Rage. Most punk bands (proper punk bands NOT Blink 182 lol) do at least one political song.

Does the way that Greenday have jumped on the anti-Bush bandwagon to boost record sales piss anyone other than me off?

[Hate Is Art]

Fugazi, MC5, T(I)NC

[Hate Is Art]

Fugazi, MC5, T(I)NC

[Hate Is Art]

Fugazi, MC5, T(I)NC

[NovelGentry]

Not band, but musician. I'll go with Robert Wyatt, the guy I talked about in another thread no one bothered to respond to.

[NovelGentry]

Not band, but musician. I'll go with Robert Wyatt, the guy I talked about in another thread no one bothered to respond to.

[NovelGentry]

Not band, but musician. I'll go with Robert Wyatt, the guy I talked about in another thread no one bothered to respond to.

[socialistfuture]

the manics, rage, T(I)NC, sepultura, dead prez, asian dub foundation... i got way more dunno bout favourate .. to hard to say.

[socialistfuture]

the manics, rage, T(I)NC, sepultura, dead prez, asian dub foundation... i got way more dunno bout favourate .. to hard to say.

[socialistfuture]

the manics, rage, T(I)NC, sepultura, dead prez, asian dub foundation... i got way more dunno bout favourate .. to hard to say.

[commiecrusader]

My favourite political musician would have to be Immortal Technique, if rapping counts as being a musician.

[commiecrusader]

My favourite political musician would have to be Immortal Technique, if rapping counts as being a musician.

[commiecrusader]

My favourite political musician would have to be Immortal Technique, if rapping counts as being a musician.

[Knowledge 6 6 6]

Bob Marley
RATM
System of a Down
Black Uhuru
The Roots
Dead Prez
Mood

[Knowledge 6 6 6]

Bob Marley
RATM
System of a Down
Black Uhuru
The Roots
Dead Prez
Mood

[Knowledge 6 6 6]

Bob Marley
RATM
System of a Down
Black Uhuru
The Roots
Dead Prez
Mood

[The Forum Idiot]

I want to hear Public Enemy...Heard they were good rap and a lot of punks apparently like them...

[The Forum Idiot]

I want to hear Public Enemy...Heard they were good rap and a lot of punks apparently like them...

[The Forum Idiot]

I want to hear Public Enemy...Heard they were good rap and a lot of punks apparently like them...

[Bazza]

Redskins
Blaggers ITA
The Strike
The Clash
The Specials / Special AKA
The Beat
The Selecter
The Che Men ;)

[Bazza]

Redskins
Blaggers ITA
The Strike
The Clash
The Specials / Special AKA
The Beat
The Selecter
The Che Men ;)

[Bazza]

Redskins
Blaggers ITA
The Strike
The Clash
The Specials / Special AKA
The Beat
The Selecter
The Che Men ;)

[dsmtuner]

ratm, dead prez, the wailers,

[dsmtuner]

ratm, dead prez, the wailers,

[dsmtuner]

ratm, dead prez, the wailers,

[noland]

Why ruin a perfectly good thing that is satifying in itself (music, that is) by mixing it with politics, I mean really. Who knows, maybee it;s just the rantings of a somewhat burnned out former concert musician.(that would be me)

[noland]

Why ruin a perfectly good thing that is satifying in itself (music, that is) by mixing it with politics, I mean really. Who knows, maybee it;s just the rantings of a somewhat burnned out former concert musician.(that would be me)

[noland]

Why ruin a perfectly good thing that is satifying in itself (music, that is) by mixing it with politics, I mean really. Who knows, maybee it;s just the rantings of a somewhat burnned out former concert musician.(that would be me)

[DaCuBaN]

Careful, you'll find me quoted (and quickly flamed) for saying when I first joined this board something along the lines of:

"The best musicians know to keep their music and politics seperate"

I still stand by this - 'political' music isn't bad - but it is not a criteria on which I judge music.

[DaCuBaN]

Careful, you'll find me quoted (and quickly flamed) for saying when I first joined this board something along the lines of:

"The best musicians know to keep their music and politics seperate"

I still stand by this - 'political' music isn't bad - but it is not a criteria on which I judge music.

[DaCuBaN]

Careful, you'll find me quoted (and quickly flamed) for saying when I first joined this board something along the lines of:

"The best musicians know to keep their music and politics seperate"

I still stand by this - 'political' music isn't bad - but it is not a criteria on which I judge music.

[mentalbunny]

Politics and music don't have to go together, but they can do, sometimes very successfully. Sure you get the slightly empty and not very talented Anti-flag (I do actually like Underground Network, it puts me in a good, motivated mood but they aren't very talented).

It depends what you call politics. For me it's anything that looks at the state of the world/society and criticises it. So I'd say Minor threat are up there. I love Jello Biafra's lyrics on Fresh fruit, Fugazi are great too. Refused are up there, for both talent and politics, and I really like Bad Religion. Although they sound really slick they've still got real soul, real feeling and that's so important in today's airbrushed world.

[mentalbunny]

Politics and music don't have to go together, but they can do, sometimes very successfully. Sure you get the slightly empty and not very talented Anti-flag (I do actually like Underground Network, it puts me in a good, motivated mood but they aren't very talented).

It depends what you call politics. For me it's anything that looks at the state of the world/society and criticises it. So I'd say Minor threat are up there. I love Jello Biafra's lyrics on Fresh fruit, Fugazi are great too. Refused are up there, for both talent and politics, and I really like Bad Religion. Although they sound really slick they've still got real soul, real feeling and that's so important in today's airbrushed world.

[mentalbunny]

Politics and music don't have to go together, but they can do, sometimes very successfully. Sure you get the slightly empty and not very talented Anti-flag (I do actually like Underground Network, it puts me in a good, motivated mood but they aren't very talented).

It depends what you call politics. For me it's anything that looks at the state of the world/society and criticises it. So I'd say Minor threat are up there. I love Jello Biafra's lyrics on Fresh fruit, Fugazi are great too. Refused are up there, for both talent and politics, and I really like Bad Religion. Although they sound really slick they've still got real soul, real feeling and that's so important in today's airbrushed world.

[anarchy means I litter]

Dead Prez
Rage against the machine
Anti-Flag
Rise Against
Against Me
The Clash

[anarchy means I litter]

Dead Prez
Rage against the machine
Anti-Flag
Rise Against
Against Me
The Clash

[anarchy means I litter]

Dead Prez
Rage against the machine
Anti-Flag
Rise Against
Against Me
The Clash

[Orange Juche]

Rage Against the Machine, Dead Prez.

[Orange Juche]

Rage Against the Machine, Dead Prez.

[Orange Juche]

Rage Against the Machine, Dead Prez.

[celtopunk]

I couldn't possibly pick a single band.

Here's a few though:
Dead Kennedys
Redskins
Adjusters
Scott MX Turner
Billy Bragg
Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy ( basically anything that Michael Franti has done)
Subhumans
Chumbawamba

[truthaddict11]

definitly dead kennedys

[mentalbunny]

celtopunk, good to see someone mentioned Billy Bragg.

[line_of_fire]

Im going with SOAD, RATM, and immortal technique

System kicks ass ladies, oh and Rammstein did a song "stripped" which is kinda political, "let me see you make decisions, without your televisions" Rammstein would be my favorite band at this point in time

[truthaddict11]

Rammstein didnt write that song it was a Depeche Mode cover.

[mentalbunny]

And I forgot Ani DiFranco, who I'd say is political, as well as having some very personal songs. I think she has loads to say on gay rights and feminism (she's bi).

[cormacobear]

leonard Cohen
John lennon
Bob Dylan (already mentioned, but come on it's BOB DYLAN)
Ministry
Old Metallica
Johnny Cash

[Pawn Power]

Morning Glory
Leftover Crack
Propaghandi
Hopless Dregs of Humanity
The (International) Noise Conspiracy

[The Forum Idiot]

Megadeth
Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Clash
Bob Dylan (I don't listen to him much but I like him loads)
I plan to put on some Billy Bragg some time...must...steal...cds...from...parents

[Scott M]

Has to be either RATM or Pennywise!!!!!!

favourite political album has to be Battle of Los Angeles....

ooh!!!

almost forgot...Bob Marley Songs of Freedom!!!!!!!!!

scott

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by Scott [email protected] 5 2004, 06:34 PM
Has to be either RATM or Pennywise!!!!!!

Pennywise?!?!?!?!? AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! I hate Pennywise! THey are the ones who put out the song "Fuck Authority" and then asked that it no longer be played after the World Trade Center attack on 9/11/01. What fucking assholes.

[captain anarchy]

anti flag or bob marley

[Scott M]

yeah, i suppose that kinda sucks....but we dont hear about these things in this little country :P

[XYZYX]

Technique for sure.

But, my favorite political album is Bobbito Garcia aka DJ Cucumberslice- Music of Resistance, its got some soul songs, some spoken word, and a couple spanish songs on there.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Class War-off morterhate records

icons of filth-moterhate records

crass

conflict (http://www.conflict.org.uk/)

earth crisis-need I say more

vegan riech-I've heard that they are good on a few issues(NOT everything though)

bright eyes-REAL EMO! (not poppie "emo")(So what if they bring out my sensitive side) they raised money for liberal organisations though not as left as me

new society of anarchists-Brew City hXc

Dropkick Murphys- a good pro union band

nausea-I like their song "Smash Rascism Now" its always a good message to send to the youth

doom- "nazi die" is a good song

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Oh yeah, i forgot another band...
The Waste

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

oh and bob marly hailed hailie salassie
i HATE hailie salassie

[The Forum Idiot]

Petey ya little rascal....don't double post...its poor netiquette.

[T_SP]

RATM
Dylan
ClaSH
Manics

[Vanilla Coke Kid]

R.E.M., if they count. I quite like RATM too. Also, my eldest brother went to see Public Enemy a while back and he says they were amazing.

[Invader Zim]

I dont like RATM, that whole rap-rock thing is in my opinion auful.

Bands which are good: -

Manic Street Preachers
Placebo
Tool
System of a Down
Nine Inch Nails
A Perfect Circle

[Hate Is Art]

Placebo are Political? RHCP are Political?

My Fav's are Richey Era Manics - Clash - Post Richey Manics.

[demonio comunista]

Bob Marley
SOAD
RATM
The Clash
Rise Against
Bad Religion
Immortal Technique

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by The Arcadian [email protected] 10 2004, 01:39 PM
Placebo are Political? RHCP are Political?

My Fav's are Richey Era Manics - Clash - Post Richey Manics.
Placebo are Political?

A few of their songs are, slave to the wage, for example.

"This one world vision
Turns us in to compromise
What good's religion
When it's each other we despise
Damn the government
Damn their killing
Damn their lies"

[mentalbunny]

Placebo's politics is a bit lip-service-y, and RHCP definitely aren't. I adore A perfect Circle, and James maynard Keenan's pretty political- he guested on a RATM track, remember?!

[I.T.W.B.N.O.I]

Marillion did a song called Fugazi thts pretty cool

[BOZG]

Didn't think you were a NIN fan.

[RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT]

Tupac
Dead Prez
Immortal Technique
RATM
The Last Poets
Bob Marley

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 05:10 PM
Didn't think you were a NIN fan.
Hell yeah, Closers a great song, and the Broken EP/mini album rocks.

I got about 40 odd tracks I would estimate... not many I know, but I like them. Problem is the millions of Re-mixes everywhere.

[BOZG]

Yeah, there's a shitload of remixes and versions and covers of. I just never heard you mention him at all.

[The Forum Idiot]

RHCP aren't aprticularly political like the Clash or Bob Dylan or whoever but they have some political songs, like Power Of Equality and All Around The World.

[mentalbunny]

NIN are awesome.

[BOZG]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 09:40 PM
NIN are awesome.
Understatement of the century. :)

[STI]

/me likes Against Me!

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Responding to the the idea that music and politics ought to not mix (Or at the very least, that they don't have to), I'd like to suggest that all music, given the context within which it is created and experienced in inherently political. A band might try its darnedest to be apolitical, but you can't stay nuetral on a moving train, and everything is subject to being deconstructed and understood in social context even if the artist doesn't intend it.

Anywhom, I'll try to recomend a few bands that haven't been mentioned yet . . . I have SoulSeek, username VirginMolotov (I think), and have material by all of these bands up for download.

McCarthy - Marxist band with an almost jangly-poppy sound. Imagine a really hooky, sharp-witted, left-wing version of The Smiths. The first album has an almost punky sensibility with short punchy (In a Jangle-pop way) songs, while later material became more meandering and Smiths-y (Songs approaching six minutes in many cases). Particularly recomended are Use a bank? I'd Rather Die, and A Child Soon In Chains.

Feederz - A violence-reveling, "situationist-inspired" mid-tempo punk band, sounding almost like The Dead Kennedys at some points (They breifly had a drummer in common). Lyricly, they could almost be compared to Leftover Crack/Choking Victim with a more classic pro-situ bent (Lines like "Vandalism, as beautiful as a rock in a cops face / Leaders and their lies, a little violence should put them in their place." sum up rather well). Their first album, "Ever feel like killing your boss?" (Released with a sandpaper cover to destroy other albums) is easily their best, while the follow-up "Teachers In Space" includes less energetic, less "forward" material, and their (much) more recent "Vandalism: As beautiful as a rock in a Cops Face" represents something of a return to form. Particularly recomended are 1984, and Aborted Jesus.

RANDY - Sweedish anarchist/communist pop-punk (Think a happier Propagandhi) cum garage (Think a more dense Hives) band. Often able to seamlessly blend the silly and the serious (Proletarian Hop is an upbeat number that's largely about the Spanish civil war that "Just don't stop"), RANDY is like revolutionary candy - a chance to submit to yr secret cravings for bubble-gum pop without undermining yr radical credibility. Particularly recomended are Karl Marx and History, and Snorty Pacifiscal Rascal

Sage Francais/Non-Prophets - Hip-hop of the most infectious sort, with a tendency toward almost-minimalistic backing and catchy choruses as well as streams of "slam-poet-y" rhymes that often combine the political and strangely "emo". (Or maybe I have no clue what I'm talking about.)

I will resist the urge to plug my old band.

NIN bore me. :P

[STI]

Wow, VMC, you nailed the Randy thing right on the head.

I love Randy and always will.

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 08:40 PM
NIN are awesome.
I never really considered them political, but I haven't listened to them much.

Let me add the Neurotics to my list, aka the Newtown Neurotics.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I just listened to RANDY and it sounds like Blink182 with communist lyrics and with more recycled and more contrived melodies. I hate it.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Just listened to some feederz. Certainly more original than RANDY, but I'm not very familiar with punk. It wasn't bad at all, I think.

Just listened to Sage Francis as well.
I've heard plenty of better hip-hop groups, but he's not so bad. The beats are pretty old-school.

[BOZG]

Originally posted by Virgin Molotov [email protected] 12 2004, 12:06 AM
NIN bore me. :P
I hope you die a horrible painful death. =D

[The Forum Idiot]

like being stabbed with nine inch nails?

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

(I bite when provoked.)

It would be a step-up from listening to the sad whining of major-label-whore (Interscope) Trent Reznor . . . sad "Dark" imagery wrapped up and sold at HMV as rebelion. Sod it. NIN is counter-culture for those who have no interest in countering culture, only in the spectacle of the "alternative".

While I'm posting, I'd like to point anybody who digs folk in the direction of David Rovics if they haven't heard him yet. He's always relevant, and his punchier songs sound like they could have been pulled from the Little Red Song Book. All of his material is available for download at his website (http://www.davidrovics.com).

[BOZG]

I'm not as ridiculous to base my life on countering culture or being an alternative. The majority of such people are not there for that reason either. Regardless of whether it's sold at HMV or showed on MTV is irrelevant to me. I couldn't care less if he was selling 3245242342424 million copies of a song, it's what it means to me and no one else.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

David Rovics pwns!
Guantanamo Bay is a really kick-ass song. Download it from VMC's link.
Good recomendation, man.

NIN's not really bag either. But not because they're corporate whores.

[BOZG]

I've only heard Vanguard by Rovics, I keep forgetting to download more. That song is hilarious though.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

His lyrics are definitely his forte. His guitar playing isn't so bad either. His voice is what puts me off a little bit. If it wasn't for his voice, he might be one of my all-time favorite folk musicians.

[DaCuBaN]

His satire of "Operation Iraqi Liberation" is mildly amusing; I must agree with RedZep though, I enjoy his guitar playing (it's my style of playing, so I would) and his lyrics are certainly clear, concise and eloquent, but I don't like his voice much... much like Randy Newman really ;)

One track that's less 'funny' but more 'good' (in my opinion) is They're Building a Wall (http://fileserv5.soundclick.com/fastb8/VIPG/davidrovics+theyrebuildingawall.mp3)

Can you guess? :rolleyes:

[BOZG]

I've started downloading everything he's recorded. :)

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2004, 07:36 PM
I've started downloading everything he's recorded. :)
If you like Rovics checkout Fred Stanton.

http://www.fortissimo.org/artists/stanton/

[DaCuBaN]

Thanks for that: we have a new addition for my sig :D


"It seems like there are thousands of people writing ‘me’ songs, and only a handful writing ‘we’ songs." -Fred Stanton

[Little Moscow]

www.Kilnaboy.co.uk

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2004, 07:02 AM
Thanks for that: we have a new addition for my sig :D


I'm glad I could help.

[__ca va?]

My favourite political band? The choir of the Communist Youth Organization, of course :D along with other choirs. I know a website from which you can download genuine 60's communist songs like the Lenin-song and the CYO-march. Anyone interested?

[Hate Is Art]

NIN are great. Best Songs are StarFuckers Inc. or anything off Pretty Hate Machine.

Download Manics cover of McCartyhs - We Are All Bourgeois Now. Its fucking A!

Manics though :wub: Still my favorite band of all time.

[Inti]

I listen mostly to Immortal Technique, Molotov, Dyablo, Don Dinero, Orishas, Victor Jara, Carlos Puebla, Spooks (norwegian band)...

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by The Arcadian [email protected] 15 2004, 02:10 PM
NIN are great. Best Songs are StarFuckers Inc. or anything off Pretty Hate Machine.

But how is NIN political??

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2004, 06:36 PM
If you like Rovics checkout Fred Stanton.

http://www.fortissimo.org/artists/stanton/
Good suggestion.
He's written some pretty bad ass books as well.

[Hate Is Art]

NIN have written lots of songs on Social Problems, drug abuse, self harm, capitilism, god etc.

[SgtPepper369]

Steve Earle, Public Enemy, John Prine, Woody Guthrie, Bob Dylan, The Clash, John Fogerty, RATM... you know... the usual.

[Hate Is Art]

Have u heard Arlo Guthries anti-war epic Alices Restraunt?

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2004, 10:04 PM
Good suggestion.
He's written some pretty bad ass books as well.
Common ground, what next?

[gaf]

skaparapid and kortatu/skap


http://www.ska-p.net/

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2004, 07:56 PM
Steve Earle, Public Enemy, John Prine, Woody Guthrie, Bob Dylan, The Clash, John Fogerty, RATM... you know... the usual.
Steve Earl's done some pretty good stuff.

A lot of his catalogue might be a little too un-political and more towards country rather than acoustic folk.


Common ground, what next?

I don't know what the heck you're talking about?

[king Royale]

Immortal technique. Underground hip-hop. Some of the most political stuff you will ever hear.

[Mute]

Rage Against The Machine
Billy Bragg
Bob Dylan
Woody Guthrie
The Clash

[The Forum Idiot]

Finally another Billy Bragg fan!

[Proud Mary!]

Rage Against The Machine

and

Bob Marley :wub: I know, I know... this is a romantic moment ^_^

In April 1978, Bob returned to Jamaica to play the One Love Peace Concert. In attendance was Jamaican President Michael Manley and the leader of the Opposition Edward Seaga. It was Bob who got them on stage and even got them to shake hands. On June 15 he was awarded the Peace Medal of the Third World from the United Nations.

Biography- Written By Thirdfield.com's Mike Peake

[GrYnEt]

Gatas parlament, wich means The streets parlament. It's a norwegian rap group, with great lyrics

[2ndgenSocialist]

I love bob marley and i really like rage against the machine, otherwise i dont listen to "political music". I find most are just *****ing for the sake of *****ing.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Has anyone here heard of The Oppressed?

I hear that they were a good leftie skinhead band from england


and once again bob marley admired that one emperor from ethiopia, you know, however the fuck you spell his name, Sallassie

[BOZG]

Haile Selassie


All Rastafarians support(ed) him.

[Sabocat]

and once again bob marley admired that one emperor from ethiopia, you know, however the fuck you spell his name, Sallassie

The religious aspect aside, I suspect Bob Marley respected Selassie for his views on human rights as well.

"That until the
philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned; that until there is no longer first class and second class citizens of any nation; that until the color of a man’s skin is of no more significance than the
color of his eyes; that until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all, without regard to race; that until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to
be pursued but never attained.

And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Angola,in Mozambique and in South Africa in sub-human bondage have been toppled and destroyed; Until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding and tolerance and good-will; Until all Africans stand and speak as free beings, equal in the eyes of men, as they are in the eyes of the Almighty; Until that day, the African continent will not know peace. We Africans will
fight, if necessary, and we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil."

-H. Selassie-

[BOZG]

But there's also an argument that Selassie was responsible for deepening a famine in Ehtiopia if I remember correctly.

[Sabocat]

But there's also an argument that Selassie was responsible for deepening a famine in Ehtiopia if I remember correctly.

Agreed. I had read about that as well.


Here's a pretty good (brief) article on Selassie if anyone's interested.

Link (http://history.acusd.edu/gen/text/selassie.html)

[Latifa]

RATM, NWA and Public Enemy are all good. Everyone else is a wannabe, and they piss me off. Especially Green Day. Man, do they suck!

[king Royale]

RATM, NWA and Public Enemy are all good. Everyone else is a wannabe, and they piss me off. Especially Green Day. Man, do they suck!

not everyone...Check out Immortal Technique http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=6C6D141...D8B799D632CC755 (http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=6C6D1413FD5EFE5F3D8B799D632CC755) A very good mp3 for download.


Also has anybody heard of Against All Authority? They're a good political ska band.

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 09:24 PM
RATM, NWA and Public Enemy are all good. Everyone else is a wannabe, and they piss me off. Especially Green Day. Man, do they suck!
Everyone else is a wannabe? That's one of the most ignorant statements ever made on this board.

[The Forum Idiot]

YEA! *realizes the only person stopping it being the most ignorant comment is me*...err...

>_>
<_ <

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

can any one tell me about the english skinhead band The Opressed

ya see I am very interested in lefty skinhead bands

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 10:10 PM
can any one tell me about the english skinhead band The Opressed

ya see I am very interested in lefty skinhead bands
Yeah they&#39;re good. Basic kind of Oi/streetpunk sound with a lefty message. Pick up an album. Get Soulseek and DL a few tracks to see if you like them. OR I could email you a few if you have broadband.

[The Forum Idiot]

Email me some please. Pllllleeeeeeeeease?

[Thomas]

Can&#39;t pick one so I&#39;ll go along with the trend and name shit loads :D

Immortal Technique
Zach De La Rocha
Rage Against The Machine
Jehst
Incubus
KRS-One
Roni Size
System of a Down
Status Quo
Otep
Nine Inch Nails
Jonny Cash

:)

[The Forum Idiot]

I wouldn&#39;t call Incubus political...Megalomaniac sure but not Are You In and Wish You Were Here.

[ComradeChris]

I think at some point everyone listed some of mine.

System of a Down
Fear Factory (I didn&#39;t think of them as being political really; maybe in some sci-fi way yes)
Zack de la Rocha
Rage Against the Machine
Mudvayne (In a World So Cold; other than that not too political either)
Mathew Good
Kyprios
Bionic Jive
John Lennon and the Beatles

That&#39;s all I can think of right now. Someone told me the band Snot was political. But every song I&#39;ve heard by them is really just about whatever. Does anyone know any Snot songs that are political. I never seem to be looking in the right places :lol: .

[niwi]

Crass, Conflict, Chumbawamba...

[Gunman]

I can only think of these ones

Queen - (well... not sure, but innuendo is quiet political)
SOAD - (War, prison song, suggestions... just to name some that are rather political)
RATM - (do i really need to say something? :D)

It isn´t much of a list... But i suppose it´s better than nothing

[rebelred]

I support any political band, from rap to punk, just as long as they get the message out right, but until a perfect circle stepped in , I&#39;d have to go with them.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Peter Framton
Gene Pitney
Air Supply
Loverboy


I win.

[Monty Cantsin]

The International Noise Conspiracy

[redtrigger]

RATM
Bob Marley
John Lennon
Tool
Marvin Gay
Bad Religon

[Eastside Revolt]

1. Bob Marley and the wailers
2. Rage Against the machine
3. Dead Prez
4. The Clash

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 01:48 PM
Crass, Conflict, Chumbawamba...
*Swoon*


Hey, don&#39;t forget:

CRISIS, DIRT, The Apostles, Anthrax, Riot/Clone, Kronstadt Uprising . . .

[Guerrilla22]

Ol&#39; Dirty Bastard. He wasn&#39;t political, but he sure was great.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Would you guys say that Warren Zevon is political?

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:27 PM
Would you guys say that Warren Zevon is political?
Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner
------Warren Zevon

Written By Warren Zevon & David Lindell c. 1976 Zevon Music/BMI

Roland was a warrior from the Land of the Midnight Sun
With a Thompson gun for hire, fighting to be done
The deal was made in Denmark on a dark and stormy day
So he set out for Biafra to join the bloody fray

Through sixty-six and seven they fought the Congo war
With their fingers on their triggers, knee-deep in gore
For days and nights they battled the Bantu to their knees
They killed to earn their living and to help out the Congolese

Roland the Thompson gunner...

His comrades fought beside him - Van Owen and the rest
But of all the Thompson gunners, Roland was the best
So the CIA decided they wanted Roland dead
That son-of-a-***** Van Owen blew off Roland&#39;s head

Roland the headless Thompson gunner
Norway&#39;s bravest son
Time, time, time
For another peaceful war
But time stands still for Roland
&#39;Til he evens up the score
They can still see his headless body stalking through the night
In the muzzle flash of Roland&#39;s Thompson gun
In the muzzle flash of Roland&#39;s Thompson gun

Roland searched the continent for the man who&#39;d done him in
He found him in Mombassa in a barroom drinking gin
Roland aimed his Thompson gun - he didn&#39;t say a word
But he blew Van Owen&#39;s body from there to Johannesburg

Roland the headless Thompson gunner...
The eternal Thompson gunner
still wandering through the night
Now it&#39;s ten years later but he still keeps up the fight
In Ireland, in Lebanon, in Palestine and Berkeley
Patty Hearst heard the burst of Roland&#39;s Thompson gun and bought it

[parecon3]

Rage Against The Machine
Bob Marley
and
Michael Franti

[niwi]

I <3 DIRT. I was just listening to them today.

[NeedToShower]

I checked out Nausea and I love the vocals. I need more female music, this is a fact. It&#39;s a shame that there are so few good female artists in my knowledge.

I don’t understand why anyone has not mentioned Pink Floyd. They have written some social stuff and they are just one of the greatest bands you&#39;ll hear, although they do not write about direct politics and they are not angry at all, but it is a great band that should be respected as far as I know.

There&#39;s the fresh band called Zebda that is great, they sing songs about Ernesto Guevara and similarities. It&#39;s one of those happy bands, they sound sort of like Reggae but they are far from reggae. Basically I have no idea what it is as I&#39;m horrible with classification, but well, they sound weird, and sing songs about Che, so they are worth checking out.

Then Bob Marley and Bob Dylan, of course. And Joan Baez, I think. And The Doors.

[Sabocat]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 15 2004, 07:53 PM
Peter Framton
Gene Pitney
Air Supply
Loverboy


I win.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How could a band like Loverboy not be political? I think the lead singer once wore a red headband&#33; :lol:

You&#39;re a sick bastard.

[cubalibra]

Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul. Wrote "Sun City" which helped bring about worldwide publicity to the injustices of the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 02:03 PM
I checked out Nausea and I love the vocals. I need more female music, this is a fact. It&#39;s a shame that there are so few good female artists in my knowledge.
The Soviettes, Bikini Kill, Whorehouse of Representatives, CRASS (Penis Envy LP) . . .

[rebelred]

I forgot to say also that the other political band that I like is The Adicts, I first noticed them when I was in the car with my friends and they were blaring it, from there on, I loved &#39;em.

[refuse_resist]

Originally posted by Virgin Molotov Cocktail+Nov 17 2004, 10:16 PM--> (Virgin Molotov Cocktail @ Nov 17 2004, 10:16 PM)
[email protected] 11 2004, 01:48 PM
Crass, Conflict, Chumbawamba...
*Swoon*


Hey, don&#39;t forget:

CRISIS, DIRT, The Apostles, Anthrax, Riot/Clone, Kronstadt Uprising . . . [/b]
I&#39;m glad you brought them up. :D Especially Crisis, Anthrax and Kronstadt Uprising.

[bolshevik butcher]

The clash, ratm, Bob Marely, the sex pistols

[cormacobear]

I can&#39;t think of any of his songs that are particulairly political, But I know David Usher is quite an activist.

[ACSandino]

the best is RATM, but is not the only one, about lyrics i mean

[Red Heretic]

KMFDM&#33;

[iamthewalrus]

the shins

[synthesis]

I wouldn&#39;t call Del tha Funkee Homosapien overtly political, but he has some songs to that nature, for example, "Del&#39;s Nightmare" on Future Development and "Madness" on Deltron 3030.

Killah Priest has some political songs such as "Madness" on Priesthood, but for the most part he is attacking organized religion, which I would consider to be leftist.

And you can&#39;t forget Mr. Lif. "Memorial Day" by the Perceptionists is a brilliant song, you can all listen to it on the "New Joints" page on Art of Rhyme:

http://www.artofrhyme.com

Edit: Also, Daniel Dumile has released a lot of political material whether you know him as Zev Love X from KMD, MF Doom from Madvillain, or Viktor Vaughan. His former label mates Poor Righteous Teachers and Brand Nubians are definitely worth checking out as well.

[Mano Dayak]

The Clash. I don&#39;t listen to political music very often.

[Postteen]

I hadn&#39;t seen the topic before (saw it now)so I decided to revive it.I like Ratm,the Clash, Bob Marley&#39;s lyrics cus I don&#39;t like reggae, and Bob Dylan who didn&#39;t believe in his lyrics.He said he exploited his talent of writing to make the songs he made.He wasn&#39;t a leftish.He pretended,for the leftishes to buy his records. >:(

[Commie Rat]

Anti flag are sicness

< Turn Coat > Die For You Government >

Bad Religion
Clash

[kc-bones]

-sub humans
-rage against the machine
-reagan youth
-the clash
-DRI
-Black Flag
-Minor Threat

[DISTURBEDrbl911]

System of a Down, Bob Dylan, Bob Marley, RATM, The Nightwatchman

[Bianconero]

oi polloi
exploited
subhumans
non servium
angelic upstarts
sham 69
billy bragg
king prawn
agnostic front
minor threat
dead kennedys
t.s.o.l.
youth brigade
.
.
.

anyone else here likes king prawn?

[dreams are free mofo]

Minutemen
The Ex
God is My Co-Pilot

[Kobbot 401]

System of a Down, Rages Aginst The Machiens, Bad Religion

Is system of a down and simmilar bands the "veitnow" of our time?

Vietnow = Anti-Vietnam Music

[Invader Zim]

The Levellers

Sell out

The year was 1991, it seems that freedom is dead and gone
The power of the rich is held by few
Keep the young paralyzed, educated by your lies
Keep the old ones happy with the news
Tell the singer not to song his song
Tell the poet that she&#39;s wrong
And in the courts you&#39;ll win the case with lies
Cos you sold them down the river-o

Do I belong to some ancient race
I like to walk in ancient places
These are things that I can understand
I don&#39;t believe in your modern way
Don&#39;t care about the things you say
Your policies have failed the test of time
Cos you sold them down the river-o

Now in a land not far away, there&#39;s men in prison because they say
The colour of your skin is not a question
Did you rally to their side
No, you sat back and let them die
I don&#39;t know how you get to sleep at night

CHORUS

Your money market goes round and round
The pound goes up, the dollar goes down
You need the power for your new towns
Cos you get scared when the night comes down
Won&#39;t you tell me where it is that we are bound

CHORUS

[Commie Rat]

Reel Big Fish &#39;sellout&#39; is a good somg

[Elmo]

Firstly whoever said why mix music with politics, because musics the poetic voice of the oppressed....you moron

Secondly system of a down rock, but i cant think of 1 song where they have raised serious political issues

Thirdly this generations only decent political band is ratm whatever any one says "sleep now in the fire" "killing in the name of" "bullet to the head"...especially bullet to the head
They say jump, you say how high

Fourthley how the smeg do u do them cool lil blue or green quotations at the bottom of your messages, them things rock

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 02:00 PM
Thirdly this generations only decent political band is ratm whatever any one says "sleep now in the fire" "killing in the name of" "bullet to the head"...especially bullet to the head
They say jump, you say how high

Which generation?? Please define it more clearly, what years does this generation span? Please also provide some examples of some indecent political bands.

[Elmo]

Basically the 90s till now

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 01:51 PM
Basically the 90s till now
Any band that existed during the 90&#39;s? Rage ceased to exist by around 2000 or so didn&#39;t they?

Have you never heard of Bad Religion, Jello Biafra, Public Enemy, Adjusters, Dread Fabrik, Citizen Fish, Subhumans, Propaghandi, Striknien DC, MDC, DOA, Devil&#39;s Advocates, Chumbawamba, Conflict, Angelic Upstarts, New Model Army, Leftover Crack. Now that&#39;s just off the top of my head and only including those artists that sing in the english language and are punkish, PE excluded. I don&#39;t dislike RATM but to call them the end all and be all is a bit of a stretch and indicates a need to broaden one&#39;s musical exposure.

[Motorcycle_diAries]

System of a Down
Bob Marley
Rage against the machine ,,,and,,,,
Sick of it all.



----------------------------------
"Was it the riches, of the land,
Powers of bright darkness,
That lead the noble, to the east,
To fight the heathens" SOAD

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 03:00 PM
Firstly whoever said why mix music with politics, because musics the poetic voice of the oppressed....you moron

Secondly system of a down rock, but i cant think of 1 song where they have raised serious political issues

Thirdly this generations only decent political band is ratm whatever any one says "sleep now in the fire" "killing in the name of" "bullet to the head"...especially bullet to the head
They say jump, you say how high

Fourthley how the smeg do u do them cool lil blue or green quotations at the bottom of your messages, them things rock
What the hell are you talking about?

System of a Down have several very political songs. I suggest you actually listen to some before you chat shite out of your arse.

RATM are an average band with one mediocre album, the rest is just a copy and reproduction of the same music. I think that like a lot of bands they are not very advanced, usually listen to by young people when they first get into rock. These people then usually progress to better more refined music as they get older.

Though I must admit that RATM is great dance music for rock clubs.


------------


The messages are called a signiture line, you can create them in your controls.

[Elmo]

Cept for the name. What have they ever done thats politically based?

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 05:29 PM
Cept for the name. What have they ever done thats politically based?
What the fuck are you talking about?

[thegodlesscommie]

Sure you get the slightly empty and not very talented Anti-flag

Um, while anti-flag aren&#39;t the greatest, the bass player is actually quite talented. Listen to some of the bass lines some time

[Theodore Bone]

Bob Dylan is the only political song writer worth listening too, songs such as "Masters of War". System of a down is a horrible band, metal is a horrible genre in general. I hate these uneducated idiots who think that rebellion and anarachy is cool and don&#39;t actually seek the meaning behind it. If any of you want to challenge a punk/metal band&#39;s writing of political songs to Bob Dylan&#39;s I would love to hear it.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

That&#39;s pretty fucking narrow-minded.
I can&#39;t stand most metal and most punk, but there is some good stuff out there. SOAD is indeed shit. You&#39;re just not looking in the right places, that&#39;s all.
Punk is worth looking into.
Take it from someone who just a few months ago believed that the entire genre was dispensable.

[Theodore Bone]

it had it&#39;s time (70&#39;s) it had it&#39;s place ( Britain).

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 06:29 PM
Cept for the name. What have they ever done thats politically based?
Pretty much most of what they write.

Boom, War?, P.L.U.C.K., Prison song, Jet Pilot, science, DEER DANCE and Toxicity just to name a couple off my head. Hell I&#39;m not even a huge fan, but these songs are not by any means subtal.

They have also done some other wierd stuff, take ATWA, thats about Charles Manson. Quite a few others are about drugs and sex.

How can you get more rock n roll than sex, drugs, serial killers and politics?

SOAD is indeed shit.

Depends really, I used to dislike them as well, but they have grown on me.

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by Theodore [email protected] 19 2005, 01:11 AM
it had it&#39;s time (70&#39;s) it had it&#39;s place ( Britain).
One could say something similar about Dylan, it wouldn&#39;t make it so, just an uninformed opinion. Kind of like what you said.

[Theodore Bone]

I don&#39;t find my opinion uninformed, I like good song writing, punk has shit song writing, I like good musicians, Dylan works witht he best muscians, punk doesn&#39;t and not to say the bassist from rancid is bad, but to say that sid vicious couldn&#39;t play a note, and are recognized as one of the greats.

[The Forum Idiot]

HA&#33; You are really uninformed&#33; Seriously&#33; Most Megadeth albums are more political than the Bob Dylan I&#39;ve heard (Blood On The Tracks, about half of Blonde On Blonde). I&#39;m in no way saying Bob ain&#39;t political but I&#39;m showing you how you would protest to me judging from a couple albums, which we are doing to you. Here&#39;s a list of good punk song writing:

Buzzcocks - Ever Fallen In Love
Anything by The Clash
Anything by Billy Bragg
Bad Religion - American Idiot
Anything by John Cooper Clarke
Dead Kennedys - Holiday In Cambodia
Dead Kennedys - Stars And Stripes Of Corruption
The Damned - Love Song (not brilliant but sweet and earnest)
The Faith - Subject To Change
Newtown Neurotics - The Mess
Oh Bondage, Up Yours&#33; - X-Ray Spex
Siouxsie And The Banshees - Hong Kong Garden
Stiff Little Fingers - Fly The Flag

Damn...my mind&#39;s buggered today but you are very, VERY narrow minded.

Here&#39;s some good metal (and some non-metal which is metallish) bands for ya too:

Megadeth - Very political lyrical masters
L7 - Political riot grrrl, again, some songs are lyrical masterpieces
Pantera - Not brilliant but pretty good
Soundgarden - Pretty good gothic grunge metal
Mudhoney - 2 words: SONIC INFUSION.

Listen to everything on my list then come back and say Punk does not have some great lyrics and metal is always trash. If you can do that I will show you a green, flying pig which can dance&#33;

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

If any of you want to challenge a punk/metal band&#39;s writing of political songs to Bob Dylan&#39;s I would love to hear it.

Did Bob Dylan ever write a song this detailed? I mean there was plenty of wankery liberal rhetoric, but dig this:

Coke Does Colombia - Raygunomics

[CHORUS]
In Columbia
(It’s a crime to)
speak out against
(Coca Cola)
just another story,
(profits before people)
when will you open your eyes?
the can in your hand
(a gun in the south)
with every sip,
(unload a clip&#33;)
The AUC appreciates
(your contribution)
when will you open your eyes?

On the morning of December 5, 1996, a rightwing paramilitary squad left Isidro Gil&#39;s body in front of the building of people he was fighting for. Shots rang out into the early morning air - coke goes down oh so easy. Coke goes down easy as it breaks in the door and rounds up all the bottling plant workers. Quit the union or death they&#39;re told.

[CHORUS]

“Bottlers in Colombia are completely independent of the Coca-Cola Company", says Rafael Fernandez. Santa takes no chances on the new day, the AUC does the dirty work now. If only Isidro could dodge bullets like coke can. "For two months, the paramilitaries camped just outside the plant gate. Coke looks the other way, at its bank account.

[CHORUS]

WE MUST TAKE ACTION [x4]

__________________


Or how about this, by one of my favorite classic punk bands:

The Stoke Newington Eight - The Apostles

On August the twentieth, 1971,
Officers of the state gate-crashed and stopped the fun,
A house on Amhurst Road number 359,
Was raided and paraded out were comrades of mine.
Comrades of mine . . .

On January the nineteenth, 1971,
Jake Prescot was arrested by Detective Habershon,
If you thought Gestapo-Nazis previously grim,
You should have witnessed what police did to him.
Police did to him . . .

On December the first, 1971,
The trial of Jake Prescott was over and done,
For Jake and others like him, paid fifteen years of hate.
And they set out to look for the Stoke Newington Eight.
Stoke Newington Eight . . .

Organize, Demonstrate, Participate,
To obey the law is only a tactic,
What are you waiting for?
Attack it&#33;

On December the sixth, 1972,
The trial of the Stoke Newington Eight was finally through,
Anna, Jim, Hilary, and John were sentenced to ten years,
Why does the price of freedom have to be so dear?
Have to be so dear . . .

Some of you are locked away, and some of you have died,
What seperates you from the rest is that at least you&#39;ve tried.
Anarchists, and socialists, and activists, and all,
We each have our own part to play to make the system fall,
To make the system fall . . .

They don&#39;t know me, perhaps it&#39;s just as well,
Or I&#39;d be doing fifteen years inside a prison cell.
Will you simply sit and wait as heaven turns to hell,
And ignore the Stoke Newington comrades who for liberty fell?
For liberty fell . . .

Organize, Demonstrate, Participate,
There are no spectators,
Society is spectacular,
Society&#33;

High Pigs&#33;
Spectacles&#33;
Judges&#33;
Property&#33;

. . . John Barker, Hilary Creek, Jim Greenfield, Anna Mendelson, Andreas Baader, Ulrike Meinhoff, Holger Meins, Jan-Carl Raspe, Astrid Proll, Petra Schelm, Thomas Weissbecker, Werner Hoppe . . .

The angry brigade is the man or woman who sits next to you, they have guns in their pockets and anger in their minds.

[Theodore Bone]

Blowin&#39; In the Wind&#39;

How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
Yes, &#39;n&#39; how many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, &#39;n&#39; how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they&#39;re forever banned?
The answer, my friend, is blowin&#39; in the wind,
The answer is blowin&#39; in the wind.

How many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
Yes, &#39;n&#39; how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, &#39;n&#39; how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin&#39; in the wind,
The answer is blowin&#39; in the wind.

How many years can a mountain exist
Before it&#39;s washed to the sea?
Yes, &#39;n&#39; how many years can some people exist
Before they&#39;re allowed to be free?
Yes, &#39;n&#39; how many times can a man turn his head,
Pretending he just doesn&#39;t see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin&#39; in the wind,
The answer is blowin&#39; in the wind.

&#39;Rainy Day Women #12 & 35&#39;

Well, they&#39;ll stone ya when you&#39;re trying to be so good,
They&#39;ll stone ya just a-like they said they would.
They&#39;ll stone ya when you&#39;re tryin&#39; to go home.
Then they&#39;ll stone ya when you&#39;re there all alone.
But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

Well, they&#39;ll stone ya when you&#39;re walkin&#39; &#39;long the street.
They&#39;ll stone ya when you&#39;re tryin&#39; to keep your seat.
They&#39;ll stone ya when you&#39;re walkin&#39; on the floor.
They&#39;ll stone ya when you&#39;re walkin&#39; to the door.
But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

They&#39;ll stone ya when you&#39;re at the breakfast table.
They&#39;ll stone ya when you are young and able.
They&#39;ll stone ya when you&#39;re tryin&#39; to make a buck.
They&#39;ll stone ya and then they&#39;ll say, "good luck."

Tell ya what, I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

Well, they&#39;ll stone you and say that it&#39;s the end.
Then they&#39;ll stone you and then they&#39;ll come back again.
They&#39;ll stone you when you&#39;re riding in your car.
They&#39;ll stone you when you&#39;re playing your guitar.
Yes, but I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

Well, they&#39;ll stone you when you walk all alone.
They&#39;ll stone you when you are walking home.
They&#39;ll stone you and then say you are brave.
They&#39;ll stone you when you are set down in your grave.
But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

&#39;Subterranean Homesick Blues&#39;

Johnny&#39;s in the basement
Mixing up the medicine
I&#39;m on the pavement
Thinking about the government
The man in the trench coat
Badge out, laid off
Says he&#39;s got a bad cough
Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid
It&#39;s somethin&#39; you did
God knows when
But you&#39;re doin&#39; it again
You better duck down the alley way
Lookin&#39; for a new friend
The man in the coon-skin cap
In the big pen
Wants eleven dollar bills
You only got ten

Maggie comes fleet foot
Face full of black soot
Talkin&#39; that the heat put
Plants in the bed but
The phone&#39;s tapped anyway
Maggie says that many say
They must bust in early May
Orders from the D. A.
Look out kid
Don&#39;t matter what you did
Walk on your tip toes
Don&#39;t try "No Doz"
Better stay away from those
That carry around a fire hose
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don&#39;t need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows

Get sick, get well
Hang around a ink well
Ring bell, hard to tell
If anything is goin&#39; to sell
Try hard, get barred
Get back, write braille
Get jailed, jump bail
Join the army, if you fail
Look out kid
You&#39;re gonna get hit
But users, cheaters
Six-time losers
Hang around the theaters
Girl by the whirlpool
Lookin&#39; for a new fool
Don&#39;t follow leaders
Watch the parkin&#39; meters

Ah get born, keep warm
Short pants, romance, learn to dance
Get dressed, get blessed
Try to be a success
Please her, please him, buy gifts
Don&#39;t steal, don&#39;t lift
Twenty years of schoolin&#39;
And they put you on the day shift
Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle
Don&#39;t wear sandals
Try to avoid the scandals
Don&#39;t wanna be a bum
You better chew gum
The pump don&#39;t work
&#39;Cause the vandals took the handles

&#39;The Times They Are A-Changin&#39;

Come gather &#39;round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You&#39;ll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin&#39;
Then you better start swimmin&#39;
Or you&#39;ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin&#39;.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won&#39;t come again
And don&#39;t speak too soon
For the wheel&#39;s still in spin
And there&#39;s no tellin&#39; who
That it&#39;s namin&#39;.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin&#39;.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don&#39;t stand in the doorway
Don&#39;t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There&#39;s a battle outside
And it is ragin&#39;.
It&#39;ll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin&#39;.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don&#39;t criticize
What you can&#39;t understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin&#39;.
Please get out of the new one
If you can&#39;t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin&#39;.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin&#39;.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin&#39;.



"Masters of War"

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin&#39;
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it&#39;s your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people&#39;s blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You&#39;ve thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain&#39;t worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I&#39;m young
You might say I&#39;m unlearned
But there&#39;s one thing I know
Though I&#39;m younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death&#39;ll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I&#39;ll watch while you&#39;re lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I&#39;ll stand o&#39;er your grave
&#39;Til I&#39;m sure that you&#39;re dead

Union Sundown
by Bob Dylan

Well, my shoes, they come from Singapore,
My flashlight&#39;s from Taiwan,
My tablecloth&#39;s from Malaysia,
My belt buckle&#39;s from the Amazon.
You know, this shirt I wear comes from the Philippines
And the car I drive is a Chevrolet,
It was put together down in Argentina
By a guy makin&#39; thirty cents a day.

Well, it&#39;s sundown on the union
And what&#39;s made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
&#39;Til greed got in the way.

Well, this silk dress is from Hong Kong
And the pearls are from Japan.
Well, the dog collar&#39;s from India
And the flower pot&#39;s from Pakistan.
All the furniture, it says "Made in Brazil"
Where a woman, she slaved for sure
Bringin&#39; home thirty cents a day to a family of twelve,
You know, that&#39;s a lot of money to her.

Well, it&#39;s sundown on the union
And what&#39;s made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
&#39;Til greed got in the way.

Well, you know, lots of people complainin&#39; that there is no work.
I say, "Why you say that for
When nothin&#39; you got is U.S.-made?"
They don&#39;t make nothin&#39; here no more,
You know, capitalism is above the law.
It say, "It don&#39;t count &#39;less it sells."
When it costs too much to build it at home
You just build it cheaper someplace else.

Well, it&#39;s sundown on the union
And what&#39;s made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
&#39;Til greed got in the way.

Well, the job that you used to have,
They gave it to somebody down in El Salvador.
The unions are big business, friend,
And they&#39;re goin&#39; out like a dinosaur.
They used to grow food in Kansas
Now they want to grow it on the moon and eat it raw.
I can see the day coming when even your home garden
Is gonna be against the law.

Well, it&#39;s sundown on the union
And what&#39;s made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
&#39;Til greed got in the way.

Democracy don&#39;t rule the world,
You&#39;d better get that in your head.
This world is ruled by violence
But I guess that&#39;s better left unsaid.
From Broadway to the Milky Way,
That&#39;s a lot of territory indeed
And a man&#39;s gonna do what he has to do
When he&#39;s got a hungry mouth to feed.

Well, it&#39;s sundown on the union
And what&#39;s made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
&#39;Til greed got in the way.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by Theodore [email protected] 19 2005, 10:15 AM
I don&#39;t find my opinion uninformed, I like good song writing, punk has shit song writing, I like good musicians, Dylan works witht he best muscians, punk doesn&#39;t and not to say the bassist from rancid is bad, but to say that sid vicious couldn&#39;t play a note, and are recognized as one of the greats.
I find the Sex Pistols just as bland and crummy as the next guy, but there is some good punk out there. There&#39;s also plenty of absolutely dreadful folk, isn&#39;t there? But some stuff, like Dylan, is fuckin gold, innit?

And Bob Dylan isn&#39;t an extremely technically talented musician either, is he? He is a brilliant songwriter, however, as are many punks.

I also don&#39;t understand how someone can like folk music so much, while inherently disliking all punk.
Folk, like punk, tends to have simple melodies and simple beats. Both rely heavily on vocals rather than instrumentals. Both are very down-to-earth.

If you listen to some punk without prejudice, you&#39;ll see that it&#39;s very similar to folk. Punk is just a bit faster and heavier. I don&#39;t know what lack of "songwriting" quality you&#39;re talking about...

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by Theodore [email protected] 19 2005, 03:15 PM
I don&#39;t find my opinion uninformed, I like good song writing, punk has shit song writing, I like good musicians, Dylan works witht he best muscians, punk doesn&#39;t and not to say the bassist from rancid is bad, but to say that sid vicious couldn&#39;t play a note, and are recognized as one of the greats.
Your statement is unclear. Who is recognized as one of the greats? Sid? Nobody in their right mind ever called him a great musician, so who are attributing this statement to?

And to say that Dylan is the end all and be all when it come to music and not realize that saying so is either ignorant and/or narrow minded is laughable.

He&#39;s very talented few people will dispute that but I&#39;ll take Phil Ochs over Dylan, Billy Bragg too for that matter.

[Break the Chains]

Rage Against The Machine
System Of A Down

[Quixotic]

dead prez, immortal technique.

[The Forum Idiot]

Originally posted by celtopunk+Jan 20 2005, 01:14 AM--> (celtopunk @ Jan 20 2005, 01:14 AM)
Theodore [email protected] 19 2005, 03:15 PM
I don&#39;t find my opinion uninformed, I like good song writing, punk has shit song writing, I like good musicians, Dylan works witht he best muscians, punk doesn&#39;t and not to say the bassist from rancid is bad, but to say that sid vicious couldn&#39;t play a note, and are recognized as one of the greats.
Your statement is unclear. Who is recognized as one of the greats? Sid? Nobody in their right mind ever called him a great musician, so who are attributing this statement to?

And to say that Dylan is the end all and be all when it come to music and not realize that saying so is either ignorant and/or narrow minded is laughable.

He&#39;s very talented few people will dispute that but I&#39;ll take Phil Ochs over Dylan, Billy Bragg too for that matter. [/b]
Bob Dylan has his influences, so he does not and can not represent all music, even if you are a bob dylan suck up. Leadbelly came before him, I&#39;m not sure but I&#39;ve always thought of Woody Guthrie pre-dating him but I have a feeling I&#39;m wrong (never looked into him).

[celtopunk]

No you are correct Woody Guthrie pre-dates Dylan and I&#39;d give him a nod over Dylan too, and don&#39;t forget Pete Seeger.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Woody Guthrie better than Dylan?
That&#39;s laughable.

Yes, his music is comparable to Dylan&#39;s in many ways. His harmonica, for instance, as well as his voice. It&#39;s obvious that Dylan was inspired by Woody, but his songs are far better. Woody&#39;s songs had trite, bland melodies that we&#39;re nearly all taken from other songs. He just added his lyrics. Dylan, on the other hand, was a mater songwriter. His songs have intriguing and catchy melodies, and always original.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

. . . middle class music written for middle class consumption, cause they got the bread to buy it, OK? What I&#39;m saying is - a lot of difference between "How many miles must a white dove sail before it can rest in the sand?" and "Dump The Bosses Off Your Back&#33;"

-Utah Phillips, tearing one off Dylan

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 02:54 AM
His songs have intriguing and catchy melodies, and always original.
I&#39;m not sure what you mean by always original?

I&#39;m not a huge Dylan fan however I can unmistakenly hear the Irish Rebel song "Patriot Game" in "With God on Our Side". I must say Dylan&#39;s lyrics are better though.

If I was a Dylan afficianado, I&#39;m sure I could point out some other instances of borrowing/influencing. I&#39;m not saying the same can&#39;t be said of other songwriters, just that Dylan isn&#39;t immune to it.

[seraphim]

The stranglers not overly political but listen to &#39;no more heroes&#39;.

[The Forum Idiot]

I think I might have a way of defining political music&#33; A bit off topic but I figure I might as well and see what you guys think.

Well, if we divide the "political spectrum" into two parts - social politics and hierarchy politics, social politics being stuff like L7, some Bob Dylan,etc - basically the music which addresses the basic politics within society - racism, sexism, etc and hierarchy politics being stuff directly attacking "the people in charge" or the system rather than what goes on within the system, I mean stuff like Bad Religion, Billy Bragg, etc. One major problem with this idea is that, fundamentally, most social politics are a (direct or indirect) result of hierarchy politics, and vice versa. Therefore this is just a simple way of being more precise in referring to "political bands" and can not be "set in stone." I could say that Billy Bragg is hierarchy politics but some could argue its social politics (stuff like A New England). I think this idea might work and help us be more precise when we say "political music". What do you all think of this idea?

[alhop10]

Alabama 3

[JimmyJazz]

Strummer/The Clash, John Lennon, Pete Seeger

and

Radiohead :blushing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl-pXpXxK00

Cattle prods and the IMF

[Invader Zim]

I dont like RATM, that whole rap-rock thing is in my opinion auful.

Bands which are good: -

Manic Street Preachers
Placebo
Tool
System of a Down
Nine Inch Nails
A Perfect Circle

Looking back, not bad.

But this is some major necromancy.

[Vahanian]

yeah, this is Necro times 4

SOAD,Serj tankian, the nightwatchman

[Pogue]

MMMMAAAAAAJOOOOORRRRRR NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCRROOO

For fucks sake guys this thread was four years old, just let it rest.

[JimmyJazz]

If it's been stickied by a mod that means starting a new thread would be bad and you should post in the old one. If it's so popular that it won't die, but a mod hasn't stickied it, then posting in it is bad and starting a new thread is better. Is there logic behind crying "necromancy!", or is it just a fun thing to do, like jinxing somebody? Either way is fine but I am curious.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Woody Guthrie better than Dylan?
That's laughable.

Yes, his music is comparable to Dylan's in many ways. His harmonica, for instance, as well as his voice. It's obvious that Dylan was inspired by Woody, but his songs are far better. Woody's songs had trite, bland melodies that we're nearly all taken from other songs. He just added his lyrics. Dylan, on the other hand, was a mater songwriter. His songs have intriguing and catchy melodies, and always original.

Phil Ochs is my favorite of all time. I prefer him over both of them.

Also Virgin Molotov Cocktail: You might want to look at the songs "Masters of War" and "The Times They Are A Changing" or "Only a Pawn in Their Game" or "North Country Blues" or "Maggie's Farm"

[Skin_HeadBanger]

Napalm Death.

[thecoffeecake1]

Serj Tankian ( solo ), SOAD, State Radio, Dropkick Murphys, Dispatch, and the Beatles. the murphys and dispatch arent really political but they did some songs

[Invincible Summer]

Napalm Death.

Yes!

Also, RATM/One Day as a Lion, Nausea, Nuclear Death Terror, Ministry, Refused, Sepultura, Aus-Rotten, Behind Enemy Lines, After the Bombs

[Skin_HeadBanger]

Yes!

Also, RATM/One Day as a Lion, Nausea, Nuclear Death Terror, Ministry, Refused, Sepultura, Aus-Rotten, Behind Enemy Lines, After the Bombs

Nausea, Ministry, Sepultura, Aus Rotten and After the Bombs are pretty badass. Definately gotta check out some of the others.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Chumbawamba

[The Intransigent Faction]

KMFDM
SOAD (not really one of my favourites, but worth mentioning)
Bob Dylan
Dead Kennedys (maybe).
Probably a few more that don't immediately come to mind.

[Post-Something]

Fugazi.

[mykittyhasaboner]

Choking Victim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_wOTnAYXzE

[Communist Theory]

I would have to say, Rise Against.

[Qayin]

Propagandhi

[WorkingClassHero]

The Dead Kennedys. MDC comes in a close second.

[Verix]

while not really a "Political Band" the Pink floyd album Animals is a very good concept album about the flaws of capitalism also the song they did money is about greed which 99.9% of the time goes hand in hand with capitalism

[Rebel_Serigan]

When it comes to political bands I have too many to count. I need like an abakis to count all of the bands i love. Though to say my favorites would have to be the Flobots as the number one and my favorite band in second place: Tool. That's right I am a Tool head and I love it.

[Decommissioner]

Local band Bring down the hammer! Really nice guys.

apparently I cant post links, to look them up just put /thehammerhitshard after the myspace home url


One of my favorite political crust bands is Man the Conveyors. Man...too many to list, pretty much all of the hardcore music I listen to is political to varying degrees...

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

Ok these arent all political bands like Dead Prez etc, but they have done politically motivated songs like Billie Holiday's Strange Fruit


The Coup
Dead Prez
Bob Marley
Peter Tosh
Bunny wailer
Steel Pulse
The Specials
Talib Kweli
Mos Def
Akala
Linton Kwesi Johnson
Gill Scott Heron
The Clash
Stiff Little Fingers
Billie Holiday (Strange fruit)
Burning Spear
Damian Marley
James Brown
Parliament/Funkadelic
KRS One
Public Enemy
The Roots
Nas
Stevie Wonder
Gary Byrd

[Yazman]

Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg

HOLY FUCK how do you pronounce that? Needs more vowels imo

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

HOLY FUCK how do you pronounce that? Needs more vowels imo


Makes a very harsh sound for such a poetic language :P

(Welsh that is)

[Coggeh]

RATM , Nightwatchman , SOAD , Dropkick murphys , manic street preachers eh ... Korn ( dunno if their leftist) but evolution rules :) ..

Those who said aus-rotten , downloaded a few of their songs ... their so ... just .. no:blink:

Then again music is opinionated i suppose and what ever floats your boat ...

[Skin_HeadBanger]

RATM , Nightwatchman , SOAD , Dropkick murphys , manic street preachers eh ... Korn ( dunno if their leftist) but evolution rules :) ..

Those who said aus-rotten , downloaded a few of their songs ... their so ... just .. no:blink:

Then again music is opinionated i suppose and what ever floats your boat ...

I love Aus Rotten.

[Picky Bugger]

Strummer/The Clash, John Lennon, Pete Seeger

and

Radiohead :blushing:



Cattle prods and the IMF

As much as I love Radiohead iv'e never really considered them a political band in the true sense. Maybe I should rethink this i'm not sure, they are rather opinionated politically but there songs are limited usually in adressing this at least on first inspection. The best music of course reveals itself from several layers.

If i were to pick a favourite political band it would have the be the Manics, socialist serenade for instance is a brilliant song.

Oh and how could I forget U2 they are indeed one of my personal favourites :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Decolonize The Left]

Woody. Guthrie.

- August

[Yazman]

Makes a very harsh sound for such a poetic language :P

(Welsh that is)

Also you are fucking amazing for having George Clinton as your display pic, god I love Funkadelic.

[Invader Zim]

HOLY FUCK how do you pronounce that? Needs more vowels imo

Welsh has plenty of vowles, they are just in the wrong place.

[Riot11]

The Clash, Woody Guthrie, Mischief Brew, the Nightwatchman, Billy Bragg.

[Sproule]

Blue Scholars Great band check them out the Coup kick ass but Dead prez has a spot in my heart

[MilitantAnarchist]

Couldnt say just one.... There is too many, Crass and Conflict are problibly the best in my oppinion.... closely followed by antifascist legends Oi Polloi.....
Aus Rotten are pretty good, if you like them check out Behind Enemy Lines, its made of half Aus Rotten and someone else, i forget who...
Also Woody Guthrie is amazing, but i try to avoid comercialised music as best i can...
Also The Restarts, Chumbawamba, Subhumans, A Heads, Flux Of Pink Indians and Zounds, all phenominal bands.... (and millions more, but those are the best that come to my mind).... But if i had to recomend, one.... JUST ONE band, it would have to be Conflict.... songs to look out for (if i can infulence just one person to look into them) check out Protest to Resistance, Increase The Pressure Law and Order, The Serenade Is Dead..... Or just find the Increase The Pressure album, fucking class A shit (circle that A too).... And for the vegans check out songs like Berkshire **** and This is The ALF....

[Pirate Utopian]

Most (not all) political bands are quite mediocore.
Public Enemy is an example of doing it right.

[MilitantAnarchist]

Most (not all) political bands are quite mediocore.
Public Enemy is an example of doing it right.

Public Enemby are great... but you should check out the anarcho punk scene, if it wasnt for that i dread to think where i would be now. Conflict and probibibly Crass to especially, i would reccomend them to everyone on here...

[Pirate Utopian]

I'm totally familiar with them. But not a fan at all.

[neilhere]

Bad Religion
Ciaran Murphy
SOAD
RATM
Napalm Death

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Rage, of course, Anti-Flag and Propaghandi.

Take a look at your promised land
Your deed is that gun in your hand
Mt Zion's a mine field-

The West Bank!
The Gaza Strip!


And of course there are a lot of bands I like, a lot, that have a lot of politics behind the music but aren't political per se. The Beatles, Neil Young, Jimi Hendrix all come immediately to mind.