Torture & Rape Still Going On In Bush's

[Skeptic]

The rape and torture is still going on in Bush's prisons in Iraq.--Skeptic

Abuse, Torture and Rape Reported at Unlisted U.S.-run Prisons in Iraq
by Lisa Ashkenaz Croke (bio)


Huntington Woods, Michigan , Sep 23 - American legal investigators have discovered evidence of abuse, torture and rape throughout the US-run prison system in Iraq. A Michigan legal team meeting with former detainees in Baghdad during an August fact-finding mission gathered evidence supporting claims of prisoner abuse at some 25 US-run detention centers, most of them so far not publicly mentioned as being embroiled in the Iraq torture scandal.

"That list was something that we came back with -- we only knew of three prisons going there," investigator Mohammed Alomari told The NewStandard, referring to the few detention centers in Iraq where concerns over treatment of prisoners have already been raised publicly.

The list includes some actual prisons, such as Al-Salihiya Prison in Baghdad, the notorious prison in Abu Ghraib, and a prison at Camp Bucca, a Coalition-built POW camp in the southern port city of Um-Qasr. Other detention centers have been established at military bases, such as the US Military compound at Al-Dhiloeia, north of Baghdad; a US base outside Fallujah; and the Hilla military compound, a joint US-Polish base where Alomari said he has recently been informed of allegations against US and Polish personnel.

"Nobody talks about it. All everyone talks about is Abu Ghraib because of the pictures," said Alomari. "But in these other places, there's tons of acts of torture, abuse, rape."

During an interview with Alomari and attorney Shereef Akeel, TNS reviewed documentation the men accumulated covering 53 separate cases of former detainees alleging gross mistreatment at the US-run prisons in Iraq. All of the witnesses have been vetted, said Akeel, their presence at various detention centers corroborated by official, US military-issued paperwork and identification information.

Some of the plaintiffs allege US captors committed severe abuses against them as recently as this summer, challenging the widely-held assumption that the military has put an end to the violations.

A steady stream of reports from a contact in Iraq has kept new cases crossing Akeel's desk almost daily since the team returned from Iraq over a month ago. Cases raised since the team's return stateside will be verified and investigated in the future.

Akeel says he learned of the horrible conditions and practices at Abu Ghraib almost a month before the rest of the American public, when a man he calls "Saleh" came into his Huntington Woods, Michigan office with an ID bracelet from Abu Ghraib and a horrific story of his rape and abuse at the infamous US-run prison.

"I said, 'Abu what?'" recalled Akeel. "I didn't even know about Abu Ghraib. I couldn't believe it. I mean, I didn't -- it was so outlandish.

"Then the pictures came out," Akeel said.

While many of the detention centers where Akeel's clients say abuses took place were established under Saddam Hussein, most appear to be facilities put to use as prisons during the US-led occupation.

A group called the Committee for the Release of Hostages and Detainees in Iraq (CROHDI), a Saddam-era human rights group based in Scotland, counted over 50 known prisons and detention centers in Iraq. CROHDI's list includes the airport near the Al-Habbaniya Resort Island and various places now used as military bases where the American investigative team uncovered cases of prisoner abuse last month.

Shortly after the invasion in 2003, the US Army established Camp Cropper, a massive, mostly outdoor facility located at Baghdad International Airport. Camp Cropper was mentioned in a Red Cross report leaked to the press last spring and received some press attention after the US military banned Amnesty International from visiting prisoners there last summer.

During their trip, the American investigators heard accounts of abuse from former Camp Cropper and Abu Ghraib detainees, but also from released inmates held at another airport camp in Baqouba, an hour Northeast of Baghdad.

Since returning, Alomari says that they have learned of prison abuse at the airport at Al-Habbaniya Resort Island located an hour west of the city, and at an airport camp in the Northern city of Mosul.

The majority of detention centers where former inmates allege American soldiers and contractors committed acts of abuse were found in and around Baghdad, most of them buildings that had been converted into prisons. Students living at Mustansiriya University Student Housing were "kicked out," said Alomari, and US troops reportedly turned the dorms into a detention center. Other such facilities were reported on the grounds of the Akai Pharmaceutical Company Compound, the Palace of Conferences located across from the Al-Rasheed hotel, the Scania transportation depot and the Al-Sijood Palace in Baghdad.

Tikrit is the only other city listed with multiple prisons where former inmates have so far reported abuses to the American investigators. First enclosed with barbed wire at the end of the war, Tikrit's neighboring villages were similarly imprisoned in the weeks leading up to Hussein's capture, when residents say they woke one morning to find that the US military had enveloped their villages in barbed wire and set up checkpoints during the night.

Detention centers in Tikrit reportedly include one of Saddam Hussein's Presidential Palaces, Uday Hussein's former horse stables, and the US-confiscated Tikrit Elementary School. All of these appear to be newly established prisons, as none appear on CRODHI's list of known centers of incarceration.

As the vice president and media director for the non-profit Focus on American & Arab Interests & Relations (FAAIR), Alomari had been traveling in and out of Iraq since December, giving seminars on American democracy to Iraq's academic and political leaders. "I came back about mid-June and about a week later Shereef [Akeel] called me," said Alomari. "He told me he wanted to go to Iraq; he wanted to investigate these cases."

Akeel had teamed up with attorneys in Philadelphia and New York to work with the Center for Constitutional Rights in bringing a lawsuit against private security firms Titan Corp and CACI International. The class action suit accuses the US firms of violating the Alien Tort Claims Act and the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) by engaging in illegal abuse and torture of detainees with the goal of securing lucrative government contracts.

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[Skeptic]

The rape and torture is still going on in Bush's prisons in Iraq.--Skeptic

Abuse, Torture and Rape Reported at Unlisted U.S.-run Prisons in Iraq
by Lisa Ashkenaz Croke (bio)


Huntington Woods, Michigan , Sep 23 - American legal investigators have discovered evidence of abuse, torture and rape throughout the US-run prison system in Iraq. A Michigan legal team meeting with former detainees in Baghdad during an August fact-finding mission gathered evidence supporting claims of prisoner abuse at some 25 US-run detention centers, most of them so far not publicly mentioned as being embroiled in the Iraq torture scandal.

"That list was something that we came back with -- we only knew of three prisons going there," investigator Mohammed Alomari told The NewStandard, referring to the few detention centers in Iraq where concerns over treatment of prisoners have already been raised publicly.

The list includes some actual prisons, such as Al-Salihiya Prison in Baghdad, the notorious prison in Abu Ghraib, and a prison at Camp Bucca, a Coalition-built POW camp in the southern port city of Um-Qasr. Other detention centers have been established at military bases, such as the US Military compound at Al-Dhiloeia, north of Baghdad; a US base outside Fallujah; and the Hilla military compound, a joint US-Polish base where Alomari said he has recently been informed of allegations against US and Polish personnel.

"Nobody talks about it. All everyone talks about is Abu Ghraib because of the pictures," said Alomari. "But in these other places, there's tons of acts of torture, abuse, rape."

During an interview with Alomari and attorney Shereef Akeel, TNS reviewed documentation the men accumulated covering 53 separate cases of former detainees alleging gross mistreatment at the US-run prisons in Iraq. All of the witnesses have been vetted, said Akeel, their presence at various detention centers corroborated by official, US military-issued paperwork and identification information.

Some of the plaintiffs allege US captors committed severe abuses against them as recently as this summer, challenging the widely-held assumption that the military has put an end to the violations.

A steady stream of reports from a contact in Iraq has kept new cases crossing Akeel's desk almost daily since the team returned from Iraq over a month ago. Cases raised since the team's return stateside will be verified and investigated in the future.

Akeel says he learned of the horrible conditions and practices at Abu Ghraib almost a month before the rest of the American public, when a man he calls "Saleh" came into his Huntington Woods, Michigan office with an ID bracelet from Abu Ghraib and a horrific story of his rape and abuse at the infamous US-run prison.

"I said, 'Abu what?'" recalled Akeel. "I didn't even know about Abu Ghraib. I couldn't believe it. I mean, I didn't -- it was so outlandish.

"Then the pictures came out," Akeel said.

While many of the detention centers where Akeel's clients say abuses took place were established under Saddam Hussein, most appear to be facilities put to use as prisons during the US-led occupation.

A group called the Committee for the Release of Hostages and Detainees in Iraq (CROHDI), a Saddam-era human rights group based in Scotland, counted over 50 known prisons and detention centers in Iraq. CROHDI's list includes the airport near the Al-Habbaniya Resort Island and various places now used as military bases where the American investigative team uncovered cases of prisoner abuse last month.

Shortly after the invasion in 2003, the US Army established Camp Cropper, a massive, mostly outdoor facility located at Baghdad International Airport. Camp Cropper was mentioned in a Red Cross report leaked to the press last spring and received some press attention after the US military banned Amnesty International from visiting prisoners there last summer.

During their trip, the American investigators heard accounts of abuse from former Camp Cropper and Abu Ghraib detainees, but also from released inmates held at another airport camp in Baqouba, an hour Northeast of Baghdad.

Since returning, Alomari says that they have learned of prison abuse at the airport at Al-Habbaniya Resort Island located an hour west of the city, and at an airport camp in the Northern city of Mosul.

The majority of detention centers where former inmates allege American soldiers and contractors committed acts of abuse were found in and around Baghdad, most of them buildings that had been converted into prisons. Students living at Mustansiriya University Student Housing were "kicked out," said Alomari, and US troops reportedly turned the dorms into a detention center. Other such facilities were reported on the grounds of the Akai Pharmaceutical Company Compound, the Palace of Conferences located across from the Al-Rasheed hotel, the Scania transportation depot and the Al-Sijood Palace in Baghdad.

Tikrit is the only other city listed with multiple prisons where former inmates have so far reported abuses to the American investigators. First enclosed with barbed wire at the end of the war, Tikrit's neighboring villages were similarly imprisoned in the weeks leading up to Hussein's capture, when residents say they woke one morning to find that the US military had enveloped their villages in barbed wire and set up checkpoints during the night.

Detention centers in Tikrit reportedly include one of Saddam Hussein's Presidential Palaces, Uday Hussein's former horse stables, and the US-confiscated Tikrit Elementary School. All of these appear to be newly established prisons, as none appear on CRODHI's list of known centers of incarceration.

As the vice president and media director for the non-profit Focus on American & Arab Interests & Relations (FAAIR), Alomari had been traveling in and out of Iraq since December, giving seminars on American democracy to Iraq's academic and political leaders. "I came back about mid-June and about a week later Shereef [Akeel] called me," said Alomari. "He told me he wanted to go to Iraq; he wanted to investigate these cases."

Akeel had teamed up with attorneys in Philadelphia and New York to work with the Center for Constitutional Rights in bringing a lawsuit against private security firms Titan Corp and CACI International. The class action suit accuses the US firms of violating the Alien Tort Claims Act and the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) by engaging in illegal abuse and torture of detainees with the goal of securing lucrative government contracts.

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[Skeptic]

The rape and torture is still going on in Bush's prisons in Iraq.--Skeptic

Abuse, Torture and Rape Reported at Unlisted U.S.-run Prisons in Iraq
by Lisa Ashkenaz Croke (bio)


Huntington Woods, Michigan , Sep 23 - American legal investigators have discovered evidence of abuse, torture and rape throughout the US-run prison system in Iraq. A Michigan legal team meeting with former detainees in Baghdad during an August fact-finding mission gathered evidence supporting claims of prisoner abuse at some 25 US-run detention centers, most of them so far not publicly mentioned as being embroiled in the Iraq torture scandal.

"That list was something that we came back with -- we only knew of three prisons going there," investigator Mohammed Alomari told The NewStandard, referring to the few detention centers in Iraq where concerns over treatment of prisoners have already been raised publicly.

The list includes some actual prisons, such as Al-Salihiya Prison in Baghdad, the notorious prison in Abu Ghraib, and a prison at Camp Bucca, a Coalition-built POW camp in the southern port city of Um-Qasr. Other detention centers have been established at military bases, such as the US Military compound at Al-Dhiloeia, north of Baghdad; a US base outside Fallujah; and the Hilla military compound, a joint US-Polish base where Alomari said he has recently been informed of allegations against US and Polish personnel.

"Nobody talks about it. All everyone talks about is Abu Ghraib because of the pictures," said Alomari. "But in these other places, there's tons of acts of torture, abuse, rape."

During an interview with Alomari and attorney Shereef Akeel, TNS reviewed documentation the men accumulated covering 53 separate cases of former detainees alleging gross mistreatment at the US-run prisons in Iraq. All of the witnesses have been vetted, said Akeel, their presence at various detention centers corroborated by official, US military-issued paperwork and identification information.

Some of the plaintiffs allege US captors committed severe abuses against them as recently as this summer, challenging the widely-held assumption that the military has put an end to the violations.

A steady stream of reports from a contact in Iraq has kept new cases crossing Akeel's desk almost daily since the team returned from Iraq over a month ago. Cases raised since the team's return stateside will be verified and investigated in the future.

Akeel says he learned of the horrible conditions and practices at Abu Ghraib almost a month before the rest of the American public, when a man he calls "Saleh" came into his Huntington Woods, Michigan office with an ID bracelet from Abu Ghraib and a horrific story of his rape and abuse at the infamous US-run prison.

"I said, 'Abu what?'" recalled Akeel. "I didn't even know about Abu Ghraib. I couldn't believe it. I mean, I didn't -- it was so outlandish.

"Then the pictures came out," Akeel said.

While many of the detention centers where Akeel's clients say abuses took place were established under Saddam Hussein, most appear to be facilities put to use as prisons during the US-led occupation.

A group called the Committee for the Release of Hostages and Detainees in Iraq (CROHDI), a Saddam-era human rights group based in Scotland, counted over 50 known prisons and detention centers in Iraq. CROHDI's list includes the airport near the Al-Habbaniya Resort Island and various places now used as military bases where the American investigative team uncovered cases of prisoner abuse last month.

Shortly after the invasion in 2003, the US Army established Camp Cropper, a massive, mostly outdoor facility located at Baghdad International Airport. Camp Cropper was mentioned in a Red Cross report leaked to the press last spring and received some press attention after the US military banned Amnesty International from visiting prisoners there last summer.

During their trip, the American investigators heard accounts of abuse from former Camp Cropper and Abu Ghraib detainees, but also from released inmates held at another airport camp in Baqouba, an hour Northeast of Baghdad.

Since returning, Alomari says that they have learned of prison abuse at the airport at Al-Habbaniya Resort Island located an hour west of the city, and at an airport camp in the Northern city of Mosul.

The majority of detention centers where former inmates allege American soldiers and contractors committed acts of abuse were found in and around Baghdad, most of them buildings that had been converted into prisons. Students living at Mustansiriya University Student Housing were "kicked out," said Alomari, and US troops reportedly turned the dorms into a detention center. Other such facilities were reported on the grounds of the Akai Pharmaceutical Company Compound, the Palace of Conferences located across from the Al-Rasheed hotel, the Scania transportation depot and the Al-Sijood Palace in Baghdad.

Tikrit is the only other city listed with multiple prisons where former inmates have so far reported abuses to the American investigators. First enclosed with barbed wire at the end of the war, Tikrit's neighboring villages were similarly imprisoned in the weeks leading up to Hussein's capture, when residents say they woke one morning to find that the US military had enveloped their villages in barbed wire and set up checkpoints during the night.

Detention centers in Tikrit reportedly include one of Saddam Hussein's Presidential Palaces, Uday Hussein's former horse stables, and the US-confiscated Tikrit Elementary School. All of these appear to be newly established prisons, as none appear on CRODHI's list of known centers of incarceration.

As the vice president and media director for the non-profit Focus on American & Arab Interests & Relations (FAAIR), Alomari had been traveling in and out of Iraq since December, giving seminars on American democracy to Iraq's academic and political leaders. "I came back about mid-June and about a week later Shereef [Akeel] called me," said Alomari. "He told me he wanted to go to Iraq; he wanted to investigate these cases."

Akeel had teamed up with attorneys in Philadelphia and New York to work with the Center for Constitutional Rights in bringing a lawsuit against private security firms Titan Corp and CACI International. The class action suit accuses the US firms of violating the Alien Tort Claims Act and the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) by engaging in illegal abuse and torture of detainees with the goal of securing lucrative government contracts.

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[redtrigger]

1. They are not technically Bush's prisons.
2. Are you really that surprised?

[redtrigger]

1. They are not technically Bush's prisons.
2. Are you really that surprised?

[redtrigger]

1. They are not technically Bush's prisons.
2. Are you really that surprised?

[commiecrusader]

This is obviously going to be the case because the prisons are manned by 'war-soldiers' not 'peacekeeping soldiers'. War soldiers are indoctrinated to dehumanise the enemy, whatever situation they encounter the enemy in. They are trained to hurt the opposition and just cos its some Iraqi shopkeeper cowering in a corner aint gonna change their thinking which has been formed through months of military indoctrination. Plus the army is run by bigots anyways.

[commiecrusader]

This is obviously going to be the case because the prisons are manned by 'war-soldiers' not 'peacekeeping soldiers'. War soldiers are indoctrinated to dehumanise the enemy, whatever situation they encounter the enemy in. They are trained to hurt the opposition and just cos its some Iraqi shopkeeper cowering in a corner aint gonna change their thinking which has been formed through months of military indoctrination. Plus the army is run by bigots anyways.

[commiecrusader]

This is obviously going to be the case because the prisons are manned by 'war-soldiers' not 'peacekeeping soldiers'. War soldiers are indoctrinated to dehumanise the enemy, whatever situation they encounter the enemy in. They are trained to hurt the opposition and just cos its some Iraqi shopkeeper cowering in a corner aint gonna change their thinking which has been formed through months of military indoctrination. Plus the army is run by bigots anyways.

[Skeptic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 08:18 PM
This is obviously going to be the case because the prisons are manned by 'war-soldiers' not 'peacekeeping soldiers'. War soldiers are indoctrinated to dehumanise the enemy, whatever situation they encounter the enemy in. They are trained to hurt the opposition and just cos its some Iraqi shopkeeper cowering in a corner aint gonna change their thinking which has been formed through months of military indoctrination. Plus the army is run by bigots anyways.
CC, Rape and routine beatenings go on all the time in domestic prisons run by 'professionals' corrections staff across the USA. These crimes are even common against child prisoners. It isn't about aggressive soldiers, its about a depraved economic and social system know as bourgeois 'Democracy.'


Recently a video came out about the California Youth Authority which showed a guard violently beating a ward with over 30 blows to the head after the youth had stopped resisting.

Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone provided a recent report on KPFA FM, Pacifica radio, that detailed the routine uses of beatings, restraint torture chairs, asphyxiation, starvation, (including using the blending of food, a cheese sandwich, milk, etc. in a blender so the child had to drink their meals using a straw through a finger sized hole in the door so that they would be without any human contact for extended periods) the use of bear repellent pepper spray on youth, even sometimes after they had been restrained, total isolation in the dark for extended period of days, the use of 14 times the normal dose of medication as a form of punishment, routine rape of male and female children in custody under the age of 14 in the California Youth Authority and other Youth jails and prisons.

A friend of mine was able to get a copy of the Arizona tasering of the little girl, this is all that I can find so far. The pig was an experienced sargent and he radioed for other pigs to bring him a taser after he had handcuffed the little girl. Fascism is coming like a freight train to America.

Officer's Taser is used on girl, 9 09:17 AM MST on Tuesday, May 25, 2004

By C.J. Karamargin / Arizona Daily Star

A veteran South Tucson police sergeant is under investigation for firing his stun gun to subdue a handcuffed 9-year-old girl.

At the request of Chief Sixto Molina, the Pima County Sheriff's Department is trying to determine if the sergeant committed a crime when he sent a jolt through the child's body.

The police officer used a Taser on the girl at about 5:30 p.m. May 8, Molina said. The nonlethal weapon uses a pulsating electrical charge to immobilize a person for several seconds.

"I'll be the first to admit, you've got a veteran sergeant Tasing a 9-year-old girl, it doesn't look good," said Molina.

The sergeant was one of at least two officers who responded to a call from the Arizona Children's Home, a school for special needs children, on South Eighth Avenue, he said.

"It had to do with a runaway from the institution," the chief said. He declined to provide further details.

The school could not be reached for comment late Monday. But Molina said that the facility is the source of frequent calls to his 25-person department.

Molina said one officer initially responded to the call from the school. That officer requested assistance from another officer and specifically asked that the second officer bring a Taser.

He said the girl was handcuffed at the time the weapon was used.

The sergeant who used the hand-held Taser remains on duty. His name is not being released while the investigation is under way.

"It didn't involve an integrity issue," Molina said. "The officer made a decision to do what he thought he needed to do."

Deputy Dawn Barkman, a spokeswoman with the Sheriff's Department, confirmed a review of the incident is under way but said she had no further details.

The results of the probe will be forwarded to the Pima County Attorney's Office.

"They'll have to present it to us to see if any criminal charges are warranted," said County Attorney's Office spokesman Dan Benavides.

Sgt. Dan Snyder, a South Tucson police spokesman, said the investigation could be complete by the end of the week.

[Skeptic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 08:18 PM
This is obviously going to be the case because the prisons are manned by 'war-soldiers' not 'peacekeeping soldiers'. War soldiers are indoctrinated to dehumanise the enemy, whatever situation they encounter the enemy in. They are trained to hurt the opposition and just cos its some Iraqi shopkeeper cowering in a corner aint gonna change their thinking which has been formed through months of military indoctrination. Plus the army is run by bigots anyways.
CC, Rape and routine beatenings go on all the time in domestic prisons run by 'professionals' corrections staff across the USA. These crimes are even common against child prisoners. It isn't about aggressive soldiers, its about a depraved economic and social system know as bourgeois 'Democracy.'


Recently a video came out about the California Youth Authority which showed a guard violently beating a ward with over 30 blows to the head after the youth had stopped resisting.

Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone provided a recent report on KPFA FM, Pacifica radio, that detailed the routine uses of beatings, restraint torture chairs, asphyxiation, starvation, (including using the blending of food, a cheese sandwich, milk, etc. in a blender so the child had to drink their meals using a straw through a finger sized hole in the door so that they would be without any human contact for extended periods) the use of bear repellent pepper spray on youth, even sometimes after they had been restrained, total isolation in the dark for extended period of days, the use of 14 times the normal dose of medication as a form of punishment, routine rape of male and female children in custody under the age of 14 in the California Youth Authority and other Youth jails and prisons.

A friend of mine was able to get a copy of the Arizona tasering of the little girl, this is all that I can find so far. The pig was an experienced sargent and he radioed for other pigs to bring him a taser after he had handcuffed the little girl. Fascism is coming like a freight train to America.

Officer's Taser is used on girl, 9 09:17 AM MST on Tuesday, May 25, 2004

By C.J. Karamargin / Arizona Daily Star

A veteran South Tucson police sergeant is under investigation for firing his stun gun to subdue a handcuffed 9-year-old girl.

At the request of Chief Sixto Molina, the Pima County Sheriff's Department is trying to determine if the sergeant committed a crime when he sent a jolt through the child's body.

The police officer used a Taser on the girl at about 5:30 p.m. May 8, Molina said. The nonlethal weapon uses a pulsating electrical charge to immobilize a person for several seconds.

"I'll be the first to admit, you've got a veteran sergeant Tasing a 9-year-old girl, it doesn't look good," said Molina.

The sergeant was one of at least two officers who responded to a call from the Arizona Children's Home, a school for special needs children, on South Eighth Avenue, he said.

"It had to do with a runaway from the institution," the chief said. He declined to provide further details.

The school could not be reached for comment late Monday. But Molina said that the facility is the source of frequent calls to his 25-person department.

Molina said one officer initially responded to the call from the school. That officer requested assistance from another officer and specifically asked that the second officer bring a Taser.

He said the girl was handcuffed at the time the weapon was used.

The sergeant who used the hand-held Taser remains on duty. His name is not being released while the investigation is under way.

"It didn't involve an integrity issue," Molina said. "The officer made a decision to do what he thought he needed to do."

Deputy Dawn Barkman, a spokeswoman with the Sheriff's Department, confirmed a review of the incident is under way but said she had no further details.

The results of the probe will be forwarded to the Pima County Attorney's Office.

"They'll have to present it to us to see if any criminal charges are warranted," said County Attorney's Office spokesman Dan Benavides.

Sgt. Dan Snyder, a South Tucson police spokesman, said the investigation could be complete by the end of the week.

[Skeptic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 08:18 PM
This is obviously going to be the case because the prisons are manned by 'war-soldiers' not 'peacekeeping soldiers'. War soldiers are indoctrinated to dehumanise the enemy, whatever situation they encounter the enemy in. They are trained to hurt the opposition and just cos its some Iraqi shopkeeper cowering in a corner aint gonna change their thinking which has been formed through months of military indoctrination. Plus the army is run by bigots anyways.
CC, Rape and routine beatenings go on all the time in domestic prisons run by 'professionals' corrections staff across the USA. These crimes are even common against child prisoners. It isn't about aggressive soldiers, its about a depraved economic and social system know as bourgeois 'Democracy.'


Recently a video came out about the California Youth Authority which showed a guard violently beating a ward with over 30 blows to the head after the youth had stopped resisting.

Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone provided a recent report on KPFA FM, Pacifica radio, that detailed the routine uses of beatings, restraint torture chairs, asphyxiation, starvation, (including using the blending of food, a cheese sandwich, milk, etc. in a blender so the child had to drink their meals using a straw through a finger sized hole in the door so that they would be without any human contact for extended periods) the use of bear repellent pepper spray on youth, even sometimes after they had been restrained, total isolation in the dark for extended period of days, the use of 14 times the normal dose of medication as a form of punishment, routine rape of male and female children in custody under the age of 14 in the California Youth Authority and other Youth jails and prisons.

A friend of mine was able to get a copy of the Arizona tasering of the little girl, this is all that I can find so far. The pig was an experienced sargent and he radioed for other pigs to bring him a taser after he had handcuffed the little girl. Fascism is coming like a freight train to America.

Officer's Taser is used on girl, 9 09:17 AM MST on Tuesday, May 25, 2004

By C.J. Karamargin / Arizona Daily Star

A veteran South Tucson police sergeant is under investigation for firing his stun gun to subdue a handcuffed 9-year-old girl.

At the request of Chief Sixto Molina, the Pima County Sheriff's Department is trying to determine if the sergeant committed a crime when he sent a jolt through the child's body.

The police officer used a Taser on the girl at about 5:30 p.m. May 8, Molina said. The nonlethal weapon uses a pulsating electrical charge to immobilize a person for several seconds.

"I'll be the first to admit, you've got a veteran sergeant Tasing a 9-year-old girl, it doesn't look good," said Molina.

The sergeant was one of at least two officers who responded to a call from the Arizona Children's Home, a school for special needs children, on South Eighth Avenue, he said.

"It had to do with a runaway from the institution," the chief said. He declined to provide further details.

The school could not be reached for comment late Monday. But Molina said that the facility is the source of frequent calls to his 25-person department.

Molina said one officer initially responded to the call from the school. That officer requested assistance from another officer and specifically asked that the second officer bring a Taser.

He said the girl was handcuffed at the time the weapon was used.

The sergeant who used the hand-held Taser remains on duty. His name is not being released while the investigation is under way.

"It didn't involve an integrity issue," Molina said. "The officer made a decision to do what he thought he needed to do."

Deputy Dawn Barkman, a spokeswoman with the Sheriff's Department, confirmed a review of the incident is under way but said she had no further details.

The results of the probe will be forwarded to the Pima County Attorney's Office.

"They'll have to present it to us to see if any criminal charges are warranted," said County Attorney's Office spokesman Dan Benavides.

Sgt. Dan Snyder, a South Tucson police spokesman, said the investigation could be complete by the end of the week.

[cormacobear]

Due to similar actions by a handfull of Canadian soldiers in Somalia, Canada imprisoned the perpetrators, disbanded one of our most respected and decorated regiments, and saw fit to change our military law to the effect that obeying an order that contravenes international law is a crime in and of it's own.

That was for the actions of less than twenty men against an individual. What do you think would be appropriate for the actions of hundreds against thousands.

Peacekeeping soldiers and war soldiers are the same men, only their mandate is different.

[cormacobear]

Due to similar actions by a handfull of Canadian soldiers in Somalia, Canada imprisoned the perpetrators, disbanded one of our most respected and decorated regiments, and saw fit to change our military law to the effect that obeying an order that contravenes international law is a crime in and of it's own.

That was for the actions of less than twenty men against an individual. What do you think would be appropriate for the actions of hundreds against thousands.

Peacekeeping soldiers and war soldiers are the same men, only their mandate is different.

[cormacobear]

Due to similar actions by a handfull of Canadian soldiers in Somalia, Canada imprisoned the perpetrators, disbanded one of our most respected and decorated regiments, and saw fit to change our military law to the effect that obeying an order that contravenes international law is a crime in and of it's own.

That was for the actions of less than twenty men against an individual. What do you think would be appropriate for the actions of hundreds against thousands.

Peacekeeping soldiers and war soldiers are the same men, only their mandate is different.

[Anti-Capitalist1]

Isn't it obvious? And all Bush cares about is keeping the public from fidning out. In all honesty, uf the last four years were not real, it'd make a hell of a good movie.

[Anti-Capitalist1]

Isn't it obvious? And all Bush cares about is keeping the public from fidning out. In all honesty, uf the last four years were not real, it'd make a hell of a good movie.

[Anti-Capitalist1]

Isn't it obvious? And all Bush cares about is keeping the public from fidning out. In all honesty, uf the last four years were not real, it'd make a hell of a good movie.

[commiecrusader]

That thing bout tasering the 9 yr old is fucked up.


Peacekeeping soldiers and war soldiers are the same men, only their mandate is different.
Wrong. They start off as the same people, but are trained and indoctrinated in entirely different ways. Peacekeeping soldiers aren't trained to de-humanise the people of the country there keeping peace in, for instance.

[commiecrusader]

That thing bout tasering the 9 yr old is fucked up.


Peacekeeping soldiers and war soldiers are the same men, only their mandate is different.
Wrong. They start off as the same people, but are trained and indoctrinated in entirely different ways. Peacekeeping soldiers aren't trained to de-humanise the people of the country there keeping peace in, for instance.

[commiecrusader]

That thing bout tasering the 9 yr old is fucked up.


Peacekeeping soldiers and war soldiers are the same men, only their mandate is different.
Wrong. They start off as the same people, but are trained and indoctrinated in entirely different ways. Peacekeeping soldiers aren't trained to de-humanise the people of the country there keeping peace in, for instance.

[cormacobear]

Really name one country that trains peacekeeping soldiers rather than an army. I know men who've serve under the blue helmet, and have yet to meet one who thinks of himself as a peacekeeper first, and a soldier second.

[cormacobear]

Really name one country that trains peacekeeping soldiers rather than an army. I know men who've serve under the blue helmet, and have yet to meet one who thinks of himself as a peacekeeper first, and a soldier second.

[cormacobear]

Really name one country that trains peacekeeping soldiers rather than an army. I know men who've serve under the blue helmet, and have yet to meet one who thinks of himself as a peacekeeper first, and a soldier second.

[commiecrusader]

Okay fair enough. I have never met one, I was just under the impression that what I said was the case. Doesnt the UK army have a dedicated peace-keeping regiment? Or is that my crazy brain making stuff up? I dunno lol

[commiecrusader]

Okay fair enough. I have never met one, I was just under the impression that what I said was the case. Doesnt the UK army have a dedicated peace-keeping regiment? Or is that my crazy brain making stuff up? I dunno lol

[commiecrusader]

Okay fair enough. I have never met one, I was just under the impression that what I said was the case. Doesnt the UK army have a dedicated peace-keeping regiment? Or is that my crazy brain making stuff up? I dunno lol

[Vallegrande]

How recent is child imprisonment in Iraq? I just learned that there were over 100 children being detained under strict secrecy from any outside contact, and reports of rape, torture, and murder are prevalent. And no world court is doing anything about this situation. I'd like to see what the public says on whether the Bush administration should be investigated for war crimes. The way Bush stutters and pauses for moments on end, show me how much of a lying sack of feces he is.

[Decolonize The Left]

Quite frankly, I'm not suprised at all by the actions of US soldiers in Iraq. These men are trained to de-humanize others, especially the enemy, not to mention the levels of stress they encounter all the time, what did you think would happen?
And to think someone will punish them? HELLO?!?!?! This is the United States we're talking about here... The US does what it wants now in regards to international law. I thought this was understood in these forums. Bush doesn't think he needs to answer to anyone, he's said that practically in those words.

As for the tasering of the 9 year old. Firstly I'd like to point out the line in the article that states "the Arizona Children's Home, a school for special needs children". So now we're looking at an officer who handcuffed a 9 year-old mentally unstable child, and then decided to 'pacify' her with a taser. Welcome to facism.
This officer will probably receive a stern talking-to as to how not to do this again in public. And get a firm slap on the wrist, thats all...

I'm sorry to state it so bluntly, but we treat most people like shit here in the US. And we treat people in other countries like, well, something that is worse than shit...

But I'm not ashamed to say I'm an American, because I think it's people like me that need to show others that not everyone is like those they see on TV.

-- August

[4514]

But I'm not ashamed to say I'm an American, because I think it's people like me that need to show others that not everyone is like those they see on TV.


so all americans aren't like david hasslehoff? that sucks.



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