Genocide

[Hate Is Art]

How many people do you have to kill to commit genocide?

[CubanFox]

Genocide has nothing to do with the bodycount. It is your intent that decides whether it is a genocide.

The UN defines genocide as:

"...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:"

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
© Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

The Holocaust was a genocide because Hitler made a concerted effort to wipe out Jews, for the crime of being Jewish.

However, it should also be noted that most mass killings throughout history have been genocides.

[Palmares]

Well said CubaFox.

Conceptually genocide is very different to such similar terms as homocide and regicide. As the latter two usually imply the killing of individuals, whereas genocide conceptually targets a whole race. It is not killing some of them, it is an ideology of killing them all.

[Hate Is Art]

ahhhhh got ya, just a little something that needed clearing up.

[NovelGentry]

Just a possible addition to this.... I'm by no means a latin major (assuming the word is even derived from latin) but I would make an assumption that the "gen" in genocide comes from the same root word as the "gen" in generation (but maybe it's just a coincidence) as such, the effective means of destroying an antire race, religious sect, or national sect would be killing off an entire generation of them in order to cut off any further production of people who follow the same beliefs.

[RedAnarchist]

In a way the Islamic fundamentalists are commiting genocide - agaisnt Muslims. They do not love Islam, or followers of Islam, but are self-hating. They would rather destroy Muslims and Muslim nations via terrorism agaisnt the West, therefore causing rascism and anti-Muslim feelings amongst the more right-wing of us Westerners.

I dont know if that meaks any sense, but it seems to do.

[Xvall]

On an interesting note, cubanfox, by the UN law, the United States has commited genocide against homosexuals.


(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

I don't think I'm the only one here aware of the mental devestation that have been inflicted on homosexuals through throughout the years by American society and actions and laws taken by the United States' Government.

[Xvall]

On an interesting note, cubanfox, by the UN law, the United States has commited genocide against homosexuals.


(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

I don't think I'm the only one here aware of the mental devestation that have been inflicted on homosexuals through throughout the years by American society and actions and laws taken by the United States' Government.

[Xvall]

On an interesting note, cubanfox, by the UN law, the United States has commited genocide against homosexuals.


(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

I don't think I'm the only one here aware of the mental devestation that have been inflicted on homosexuals through throughout the years by American society and actions and laws taken by the United States' Government.

[Essential Insignificance]

Genocide has nothing to do with the bodycount. It is your intent that decides whether it is a genocide.


"...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:"

Now that's an "unprincipled" definition of genocide. Surely genocides, main expression -- are the practical implications not the theoretical.

I could, "rattle off" a comprehensible doctrine tomorrow calling on for certain nations, to eradicate the "minorities", without displaying any true intentions.

Would I be guilty of genocide, assuredly not!

[Essential Insignificance]

Genocide has nothing to do with the bodycount. It is your intent that decides whether it is a genocide.


"...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:"

Now that's an "unprincipled" definition of genocide. Surely genocides, main expression -- are the practical implications not the theoretical.

I could, "rattle off" a comprehensible doctrine tomorrow calling on for certain nations, to eradicate the "minorities", without displaying any true intentions.

Would I be guilty of genocide, assuredly not!

[Essential Insignificance]

Genocide has nothing to do with the bodycount. It is your intent that decides whether it is a genocide.


"...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:"

Now that's an "unprincipled" definition of genocide. Surely genocides, main expression -- are the practical implications not the theoretical.

I could, "rattle off" a comprehensible doctrine tomorrow calling on for certain nations, to eradicate the "minorities", without displaying any true intentions.

Would I be guilty of genocide, assuredly not!

[Hate Is Art]

youd be guilty of trying to incite genocide. im sure thats a crime.

[Hate Is Art]

youd be guilty of trying to incite genocide. im sure thats a crime.

[Hate Is Art]

youd be guilty of trying to incite genocide. im sure thats a crime.

[Wiesty]

there is no limit, it just has to be an attempt

[Wiesty]

there is no limit, it just has to be an attempt

[Wiesty]

there is no limit, it just has to be an attempt

[che's long lost daughter]

Originally posted by Essential [email protected] 24 2004, 07:11 AM



Now that's an "unprincipled" definition of genocide. Surely genocides, main expression -- are the practical implications not the theoretical.

I could, "rattle off" a comprehensible doctrine tomorrow calling on for certain nations, to eradicate the "minorities", without displaying any true intentions.

Would I be guilty of genocide, assuredly not!
Whether you think that the definition is unprincipled or not as long as you are involved in the killing of a group of people belonging to one race, you are responsible for Genocide.

[che's long lost daughter]

Originally posted by Essential [email protected] 24 2004, 07:11 AM



Now that's an "unprincipled" definition of genocide. Surely genocides, main expression -- are the practical implications not the theoretical.

I could, "rattle off" a comprehensible doctrine tomorrow calling on for certain nations, to eradicate the "minorities", without displaying any true intentions.

Would I be guilty of genocide, assuredly not!
Whether you think that the definition is unprincipled or not as long as you are involved in the killing of a group of people belonging to one race, you are responsible for Genocide.

[che's long lost daughter]

Originally posted by Essential [email protected] 24 2004, 07:11 AM



Now that's an "unprincipled" definition of genocide. Surely genocides, main expression -- are the practical implications not the theoretical.

I could, "rattle off" a comprehensible doctrine tomorrow calling on for certain nations, to eradicate the "minorities", without displaying any true intentions.

Would I be guilty of genocide, assuredly not!
Whether you think that the definition is unprincipled or not as long as you are involved in the killing of a group of people belonging to one race, you are responsible for Genocide.

[Essential Insignificance]

youd be guilty of trying to incite genocide. im sure thats a crime.

How sure?


Whether you think that the definition is unprincipled or not as long as you are involved in the killing of a group of people belonging to one race, you are responsible for Genocide.

You obviously didn't bother to read the UN definition of genocide.

"...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:"

Racial extermination is only a "dynamic" of genocide, contrary to popular belief.

This can be accredited to the Nazi's association to the word; when an individual hears the word "genocide", their mind, is, in all likelihood -- determined to lead to World War Two and the subsequent examination of European Jews.

So now it's a practical act of accomplishment?

[Essential Insignificance]

youd be guilty of trying to incite genocide. im sure thats a crime.

How sure?


Whether you think that the definition is unprincipled or not as long as you are involved in the killing of a group of people belonging to one race, you are responsible for Genocide.

You obviously didn't bother to read the UN definition of genocide.

"...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:"

Racial extermination is only a "dynamic" of genocide, contrary to popular belief.

This can be accredited to the Nazi's association to the word; when an individual hears the word "genocide", their mind, is, in all likelihood -- determined to lead to World War Two and the subsequent examination of European Jews.

So now it's a practical act of accomplishment?

[Essential Insignificance]

youd be guilty of trying to incite genocide. im sure thats a crime.

How sure?


Whether you think that the definition is unprincipled or not as long as you are involved in the killing of a group of people belonging to one race, you are responsible for Genocide.

You obviously didn't bother to read the UN definition of genocide.

"...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:"

Racial extermination is only a "dynamic" of genocide, contrary to popular belief.

This can be accredited to the Nazi's association to the word; when an individual hears the word "genocide", their mind, is, in all likelihood -- determined to lead to World War Two and the subsequent examination of European Jews.

So now it's a practical act of accomplishment?