The Curse of Business Proces Outsourcing(BPO)

[revolutionindia]

The grand imperial designs of the western world have once again been set into motion in the form of jobs moving to india with the objective of reducing India to a slave nation of call operators and cheap programmers

Most of you seem to be complaining about how your jobs are moving to india,philipines etcetc
But what I have to say is

KEEP YOUR FUCKING JOBS !!!!!!!!! We don't want it

Great nations are not built by answering phone calls one should remember that
great nations are built on the ability to create knowledge and innovate continously

BPO's and call centres leave little scope for creating knowledge and innovation.

Most of you people must be wondering how asian people imitate american accents etetc the answer is all call centres and BPO employees undergo
systematic brainwashing which consists of among other things watching countless hours of bizzare TV programming in the form of Friends,Sex and the city and countless other trash programes that america produces in the name of entertainment

Then these people overnight start behaving differently and suddenly they find all things indian alien and bizzare.They become so americanized that that even if you met them you would be suprized to find they are indians .

This in short is cultural imperilism that whole parts of asia are suffering from

They go on to form the indian elite cut of from the masses who will kiss american ass for a few dollars more.

What is scary is not the present but the future
The youth of my country are spending the most productive time of their lives answering phone calls :blink: (Average employee age is 20-25)

In the future when these jobs move to Ghana or sudan what will they do?

India doesn't lack oppurtunities but when choices are many people tend to take the path of least resistance thats why they end up in BPO outfits

My country has 300 million people who live on less than 1 $ a day yet my country men are brainwashed into doing meaningles jobs by being shown the greed of the devils green curency$$$$$$$

the bottomline is
KEEP YOUR FUCKING JOBS TO YOURSELF!!!!!! :angry:
OR WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE COUNTER MEASURES(could be violent or non-violent)

[wet blanket]

... If people don't want the jobs, why are people taking them?
Use your head, mate.

[revolutionindia]

people are being shown the greed of a few dollars more to do meaningless jobs

Tell me if given a choice will you sell sugar water(coca cola) or answer phone calls all your life or do you wish to change the world?

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 09:08 AM
the bottomline is
KEEP YOUR FUCKING JOBS TO YOURSELF!!!!!! :angry:
OR WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE COUNTER MEASURES(could be violent or non-violent)
Aha, so what you basically say is deny people decent jobs and let them go through the hard proces of industrialization?

[revolutionindia]

Your jobs are not decent they are worthless.At the end of the day what job satisfaction can answering phone calls give a person.Especially when you live in a country with 300 million poor people

[Hoppe]

Welcome to the modern world revolutionindia, in which more and more jobs will be aimed at providing services instead of manufactering goods.

The simple fact that you dislike a certain job doesn't imply that person B, working as a programmer, hates his job as well. There are actually people in this world who see these jobs as a great way to improve their situation.

[The Sloth]

Of course, being programmers, for example, takes the same amount of skills world-wide, but remember that Indians don't have to be paid as much as folks in the United States.

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by Brooklyn-[email protected] 10 2004, 01:30 PM
Of course, being programmers, for example, takes the same amount of skills world-wide, but remember that Indians don't have to be paid as much as folks in the United States.
The cost of living in India is lower. For India it's a good thing, also since more and more higher qualified jobs are being outsourced.

I don't hear Revolution India complaining about all the post-graduate positions in US universities which are more and more "taken" by Indians (or Chinese).

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Call centre workers and 'cheap programmers' are paid highly by Indian standards, although compared to wages in the UK are ridiculously low. It's simple business sense.


Most of you people must be wondering how asian people imitate american accents etetc the answer is all call centres and BPO employees undergo
systematic brainwashing which consists of among other things watching countless hours of bizzare TV programming in the form of Friends,Sex and the city and countless other trash programes that america produces in the name of entertainment

Is this the change you truly fear RI? I hardly think that telecommunications companies, evil as they are, are brainwashing Indians. I think Indians are much too smart for that (Especially the ones that can speak English) I simply think that exposure to Western companies has piqued some Indians interest in the culture of the western hemisphere. And, it seems, they like it. What's wrong with that? How are you going to stop them?

"No, you can't adopt Western culture. Even if you don't like women having acid thrown in their faces."


Then these people overnight start behaving differently and suddenly they find all things indian alien and bizzare.They become so americanized that that even if you met them you would be suprized to find they are indians .

I think this is an exaggeration. All the Indians I have talked to in call centres retain their accents. While there is little oppurtunity for small talk, they do seem to like their jobs.


the bottomline is
KEEP YOUR FUCKING JOBS TO YOURSELF!!!!!!
OR WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE COUNTER MEASURES(could be violent or non-violent)

You know, I'm pretty sure the call centre worker will be pretty miffed to find their workplaces trashed because some maniac disagreed with foreign companies bringing in highly paid jobs that don't involve back-breaking work. I certainly would.

[revolutionindia]

Once somebody asked Mahatma Gandhi what he thinks of western civilization?
Gandhi replied " I think its a good idea"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Is the joke clear?

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 07:28 PM
The cost of living in India is lower. For India it's a good thing, also since more and more higher qualified jobs are being outsourced.

I don't hear Revolution India complaining about all the post-graduate positions in US universities which are more and more "taken" by Indians (or Chinese).
Oh ya forgot to mention
Those post graduate students who study and stay back have betrayed their country
they can stay there I dont care
When those crazy nazi and stormfront guys start gunning for their asses they will know what it means to live in one's own country among ones own people

But when that happens we will not allow them to even keep a single foot back here
They can die there like I give a fuck
After all they have commited an unforgivable crime that is leaving 300 million people to die on their own in India

In my country there are more foreigners who have done more for India than these
3rd rate bastard indians who kiss white ass and work in nasa and teach at P-G colleges

Those P-G guys who study there and return are welcome and are true indians

[revolutionindia]

You know, I'm pretty sure the call centre worker will be pretty miffed to find their workplaces trashed because some maniac disagreed with foreign companies bringing in highly paid jobs that don't involve back-breaking work. I certainly would

The worth of a job must be determined by the satisfaction it offers,not in monetory terms but in quality of work,how your job contributes to national development and individual development along with scope for individual progress

Call centres and BPO's offer nothing in terms of this
These slave companies will move to china as soon as the chinese learn english or the sudanese people learn to type on a computer.

And you don't know anything about whats happening in India interms of cultural imperialism,casue -effect .The worst of western and eastern culture is being adopted in the name of whatever the fuck reason people can find

[wet blanket]

Nationalism when mixed with socialism is never good... I suggest you drop the whole "..for India" and "true indians" bullshit. Seriously, you sound like a fascist.

[revolutionindia]

You don't know whats good for my country
I live here ,I know better
Stop preaching and stop calling me names that are usually reserved for the elitist members of commie club and the admins,mods

[wet blanket]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 05:38 AM
You don't know whats good for my country
I live here ,I know better
Stop preaching and stop calling me names that are usually reserved for the elitist members of commie club and the admins,mods
While I don't doubt your concern for 'your country' is genuine, I think that it's the problem.
You're not at all concerned about the people themselves, rather, your attention is focused squarely on "India". I'm not preaching, I'm telling you the truth.

You sound like nationalist scum.

[revolutionindia]

Yes I am focussed on India
and INDIA is about the People who live in its geographical boundaries

yes I am nationalist but not scum
Scum are people who steal from others because others stole from them
Lot of them on this site
Stay away from them before they brain wash you with their red logic

[Raisa]

KEEP YOUR FUCKING JOBS TO YOURSELF!!!!!!
OR WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE COUNTER MEASURES(could be violent or non-violent)



Tell that to the capitalists. Whats the use of holding citizens of other countries accountable, when you know as workers we are all in this together.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

God you're an idiot, RI. I sure hope the majoprity of Indians aren't as nationalistic as you or India is doomed as a new star in the capitalist constellation, and will remain a backward peasant country.


Oh ya forgot to mention
Those post graduate students who study and stay back have betrayed their country
they can stay there I dont care

So I guess you want them to keep the money they send back home? Is it all of a sudden treachery to support the rest of the family at home financially?


When those crazy nazi and stormfront guys start gunning for their asses they will know what it means to live in one's own country among ones own people

If I were to move to India I sure wouldn't nationalists and racists harassing me all the time. Is this what you want to happen to fellow Indians in the UK? You're a rotten nationalist, you don't even support your own countrymen.


But when that happens we will not allow them to even keep a single foot back here
They can die there like I give a fuck
After all they have commited an unforgivable crime that is leaving 300 million people to die on their own in India

Of those 300 billion people, only a few thousand of those manage to leave India. I'm sorry, but it's virtually impossible for a hundred thousand to lift many millions from poverty, but they're doing their best. But even if half of India's population were to leave to richer countries, it still would not solve the material causes of poverty in India. It's not the ex-pat's fault. The best thing to happen for India is for foreign companies with the monetary power to start building a complete modern infrastructure. I believe it's happening right now. I suppose it would be nice if more Indians could be involved in the modernisation of India, but any modernisation is better than none.


In my country there are more foreigners who have done more for India than these
3rd rate bastard indians who kiss white ass and work in nasa and teach at P-G colleges

Why are you not proud that it's Indians who are raising the next generation of doctors and professors, why are you not proud that it is Indians who are pushing mankind's boundaries and scientific knowledge? You have a very strange pride of your country.


Those P-G guys who study there and return are welcome and are true indians

Pity the same can't be said for Indians working abroad and gaining a good name for India.


The worth of a job must be determined by the satisfaction it offers,not in monetory terms but in quality of work,how your job contributes to national development and individual development along with scope for individual progress

Um, in capitalism, money is all that matters. In your case, the higher paid jobs allow Indians to spend more money in their home country, thus developing India's economy.


Call centres and BPO's offer nothing in terms of this
These slave companies will move to china as soon as the chinese learn english or the sudanese people learn to type on a computer.

This is unfortunate, but when the company moves away to somewhere even cheaper, what does that leave India? a bunch of computer-literate English speakers with experience. Other companies in India will simply snap them up.


And you don't know anything about whats happening in India interms of cultural imperialism,casue -effect .The worst of western and eastern culture is being adopted in the name of whatever the fuck reason people can find

Yes, while TV programs like Friends and Sex in The City are pure vomit, it does hopefully open the door to the finer parts of western culture.

What is your view on westerners adopting (elements of) Indian culture?

[The New Yorker]

I saw this on sixty minutes and thats not how it is, Nice of you to edit how they are really trained so it looks like some brainwashing program though.

There applying for the jobs because there are so few jobs in india. Why your calling this a bad thing is beyond me. Fact of the matter is with out these jobs alot of indians would be starving!

[revolutionindia]

I saw this on sixty minutes and thats not how it is, Nice of you to edit how they are really trained so it looks like some brainwashing program though.

There applying for the jobs because there are so few jobs in india. Why your calling this a bad thing is beyond me. Fact of the matter is with out these jobs alot of indians would be starving!
[/QUOTE]

Correction
People starving on the street continue to starve
BPO's dont hire starving people
The starving man will die of hunger tommorow
The staving dog will feed on the dead man

and life will go on as usual for most of the poeple

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 10:01 PM
God you're an idiot, RI. I sure hope the majoprity of Indians aren't as nationalistic as you or India is doomed as a new star in the capitalist constellation, and will remain a backward peasant country.



So I guess you want them to keep the money they send back home? Is it all of a sudden treachery to support the rest of the family at home financially?



If I were to move to India I sure wouldn't nationalists and racists harassing me all the time. Is this what you want to happen to fellow Indians in the UK? You're a rotten nationalist, you don't even support your own countrymen.



Of those 300 billion people, only a few thousand of those manage to leave India. I'm sorry, but it's virtually impossible for a hundred thousand to lift many millions from poverty, but they're doing their best. But even if half of India's population were to leave to richer countries, it still would not solve the material causes of poverty in India. It's not the ex-pat's fault. The best thing to happen for India is for foreign companies with the monetary power to start building a complete modern infrastructure. I believe it's happening right now. I suppose it would be nice if more Indians could be involved in the modernisation of India, but any modernisation is better than none.



Why are you not proud that it's Indians who are raising the next generation of doctors and professors, why are you not proud that it is Indians who are pushing mankind's boundaries and scientific knowledge? You have a very strange pride of your country.



Pity the same can't be said for Indians working abroad and gaining a good name for India.



Um, in capitalism, money is all that matters. In your case, the higher paid jobs allow Indians to spend more money in their home country, thus developing India's economy.



This is unfortunate, but when the company moves away to somewhere even cheaper, what does that leave India? a bunch of computer-literate English speakers with experience. Other companies in India will simply snap them up.



Yes, while TV programs like Friends and Sex in The City are pure vomit, it does hopefully open the door to the finer parts of western culture.

What is your view on westerners adopting (elements of) Indian culture?
Noxion you have your myths and facts all confused
Let me explain

Myth:Indians send their money back home to support their families

Fact:Yes they do not to support their families but to make use
of the interest rate differntial present .In india the ready to lick
anyone's ass governement offers higher interest rate than the US

So many clever indians take cheap loans from US institions and park it
in Indian deposits wherre they get higher interest and pocket the difference

Its purely a business proposition

Also India suffered a financial crisis in 1991 because of large scale withdrawal of
this very money by the foreign Indians who suddenly lost confidence

I don't support the burgeiose classes of Indians who are very similiar to western imperilists in their endeavours.

I have nothing against these indians who ran away to live a better life
But what pricks me is every year all the hoopla and hype and hollow words these
non resident indians generate and shed crocodile tears and promises that they make

The government even spends crores just organising events to kiss their ass when just yesterday somebody died of hundger in some remote part of the country

Also most of these indians who teach and work in USA are indians by mere names
They are more westernized than the americans themselves

What makes you Indian?
A unique set of beliefs ,culture and traditoin

These people are not indians they are as good as foreigners

I am proud of the fact that indians have been sucessful
but it is sad that they had to achieve it outside the country
and it will always be so because the very people who could make a difference
choose the easy path out of the country.

India's best and brightest live not in India but outside it call it
brain drain or call it whatever you want

But what all of us have is our country and no one is going it to help us
in grand endeavour of building a great nation
but it is our blood and sweat that will be used to water the fields that will
reap a glorious harvest
We, the people of india are the future of india not some
Indian techie who prospers only because he kissed american ass

The west and the east will never meet.

Either if you are western and wish to convert to eastern
or are eastern and wish to convert to westen
Do so ,but do completely

Don't try to mix and match aspects of both cultures for that
is a sure fire reciepe for disaster
Morever you will end up nowhere

[wet blanket]

These people are not indians they are as good as foreigners
...
The west and the east will never meet.


Why don't you just come out and admit you're a jingoist with a fascist agenda? Stop pretending to be communist.

[revolutionindia]

1.I have never pretended to be communist
as you may notice I have been placed in a special group called
restricted members for enhanced discussion

2.I do agree with some aspects of communism ,but it is still not enough to call me a communist