The Various Directions of Capitalism

[Lardlad95]

It's pretty obvious where us Marxists stand on this issue. Capitalism will eventually crumble, it's a historical innevitablity. I wonder however, where do the non-marxists see capitalism going?

Will it do one of the following

A) Remain the same as it is today, we've reached the pinnacle of human society

B) move slowly to the right until it eventually reaches a stage of lassiez-faire capitalism/ conservative libertarianism.

C) Move slowly to the left and eventually become like Canada and Europe

D) Move in a cycle, starting at lassiez faire, moving to the left, only to eventually hit a peak and move back to the right

E) Collapse, but turn into a totally new Economic system that we've yet to see

F) It will collapse and turn into Communism, but communism will eventually fall and giveway to another system.

G) Other


Select a choice, or create your own and tell us why you believe this to be true

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I am obviously a Marxist, but I've spoken with plenty of capitalists. Most of them say that communism will never exist. They say the opposite of what we say, that communism (the final stage) will inevitably not exist. Some actually see the progression that has occurred so far in the social evolution of mankind and can foresee society going further in that direction, but these capitalists still somehow condone right-wing politics. I have no idea how. Or maybe I misunderstood the idiot.

[wet blanket]

historical innevitablity
Watch out when using terms like this...

[Lardlad95]

Originally posted by wet [email protected] 10 2004, 12:25 AM
Watch out when using terms like this...
Fine, ...I PERSONALLY BELIEVE IT"S A HISTORICAL INNEVITABILITY.

You guys can believe what ever you want

[cormacobear]

In all likely hood it will become a totalitarian state run by several powerfull corperations( I mean moreso than they do now). Corperations controling the education system completely will allow the average standard of living to errode to a point where a revolution will occur. However in most cases of human history it hasn't gone the way the revolters expected, generally changing one bad system for another allowing the cycle to continue. It's quite possible that with such powerfull weapons on the earth that any revolt will once again lead to an imperial monarchist system.

[Forward Union]

I think society will slowly creep to the left of the political spectrum, until eventually it gives way to an unofficial form of communism, or at least direct democracy. Following this, either Anarchism will last out forever, or Despotism will return.

[revolutionindia]

Capitalism will mutate into a totally new Economic system that we've yet to see

Guys admit it the writings on the wall,Deng Xiaoping saw it you will see it too that
capitalism is here to stay communism must learn to live with it

[socialistfuture]

how will western civilization continue once oil runs out? isnt that going to be the undoing of capitalism?

[Forward Union]

No, they will turn to solar/hydro/nuclear power to fuel their i'll system . I believe it will be our thoughts and our actions that finally undo capitalism.

[Lardlad95]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 05:07 AM
Capitalism will mutate into a totally new Economic system that we've yet to see

Guys admit it the writings on the wall,Deng Xiaoping saw it you will see it too that
capitalism is here to stay communism must learn to live with it
Any possible predictions for the type of system

[Lardlad95]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 05:07 AM
Capitalism will mutate into a totally new Economic system that we've yet to see

Guys admit it the writings on the wall,Deng Xiaoping saw it you will see it too that
capitalism is here to stay communism must learn to live with it
Any possible predictions for the type of system

[Lardlad95]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 05:07 AM
Capitalism will mutate into a totally new Economic system that we've yet to see

Guys admit it the writings on the wall,Deng Xiaoping saw it you will see it too that
capitalism is here to stay communism must learn to live with it
Any possible predictions for the type of system

[Zingu]

We don't live in a completely capitalist system like in Marx's time, all of this stock market trading, shareholder affairs in companies, is, as said before, slowly turning capitalism into some type of form of advanced coporatism, but I still believe Socialism is going to have its turn in human history sometime in human history.

[Zingu]

We don't live in a completely capitalist system like in Marx's time, all of this stock market trading, shareholder affairs in companies, is, as said before, slowly turning capitalism into some type of form of advanced coporatism, but I still believe Socialism is going to have its turn in human history sometime in human history.

[Zingu]

We don't live in a completely capitalist system like in Marx's time, all of this stock market trading, shareholder affairs in companies, is, as said before, slowly turning capitalism into some type of form of advanced coporatism, but I still believe Socialism is going to have its turn in human history sometime in human history.

[Nas]

i agreed with Zingu, i don't see any capitalist replying

[Nas]

i agreed with Zingu, i don't see any capitalist replying

[Nas]

i agreed with Zingu, i don't see any capitalist replying

[cormacobear]

O.K. so I may have been feeling a tad pessimistic when I wrote my last reply to this thread. Zingu's oppinion may be based a little more in reality.

As standards of education rise in the first world, the first world being N.America and Europe, the majority seem to be responding to what's in the best interest of the majority. Europe and Canada are more left than the United states, and their markets are far more regulated than they were say 50 years ago. So perhaps there is a gradual migration to the left. But let's face it the way history unfurls is dependant mainly on the worlds militant super power, and our nations response to it.

[cormacobear]

O.K. so I may have been feeling a tad pessimistic when I wrote my last reply to this thread. Zingu's oppinion may be based a little more in reality.

As standards of education rise in the first world, the first world being N.America and Europe, the majority seem to be responding to what's in the best interest of the majority. Europe and Canada are more left than the United states, and their markets are far more regulated than they were say 50 years ago. So perhaps there is a gradual migration to the left. But let's face it the way history unfurls is dependant mainly on the worlds militant super power, and our nations response to it.

[cormacobear]

O.K. so I may have been feeling a tad pessimistic when I wrote my last reply to this thread. Zingu's oppinion may be based a little more in reality.

As standards of education rise in the first world, the first world being N.America and Europe, the majority seem to be responding to what's in the best interest of the majority. Europe and Canada are more left than the United states, and their markets are far more regulated than they were say 50 years ago. So perhaps there is a gradual migration to the left. But let's face it the way history unfurls is dependant mainly on the worlds militant super power, and our nations response to it.

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 04:14 AM
i agreed with Zingu, i don't see any capitalist replying
Well let me be the first.

Our present political system will eventually collapse, basically because of our very unsound economic system. Despite of what Greenspan is telling you, it's hardly sustainable. When or if it happens I don't know and what happens next I certainly don't know, except that it won't be full spread communism.

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 04:14 AM
i agreed with Zingu, i don't see any capitalist replying
Well let me be the first.

Our present political system will eventually collapse, basically because of our very unsound economic system. Despite of what Greenspan is telling you, it's hardly sustainable. When or if it happens I don't know and what happens next I certainly don't know, except that it won't be full spread communism.

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 04:14 AM
i agreed with Zingu, i don't see any capitalist replying
Well let me be the first.

Our present political system will eventually collapse, basically because of our very unsound economic system. Despite of what Greenspan is telling you, it's hardly sustainable. When or if it happens I don't know and what happens next I certainly don't know, except that it won't be full spread communism.

[Lardlad95]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 11:46 AM
Well let me be the first.

Our present political system will eventually collapse, basically because of our very unsound economic system. Despite of what Greenspan is telling you, it's hardly sustainable. When or if it happens I don't know and what happens next I certainly don't know, except that it won't be full spread communism.
You're unsure of what will happen, but you're positive that it won't be communism? How can you be so sure?

[Lardlad95]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 11:46 AM
Well let me be the first.

Our present political system will eventually collapse, basically because of our very unsound economic system. Despite of what Greenspan is telling you, it's hardly sustainable. When or if it happens I don't know and what happens next I certainly don't know, except that it won't be full spread communism.
You're unsure of what will happen, but you're positive that it won't be communism? How can you be so sure?

[Lardlad95]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 11:46 AM
Well let me be the first.

Our present political system will eventually collapse, basically because of our very unsound economic system. Despite of what Greenspan is telling you, it's hardly sustainable. When or if it happens I don't know and what happens next I certainly don't know, except that it won't be full spread communism.
You're unsure of what will happen, but you're positive that it won't be communism? How can you be so sure?