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Divine Soldier
21st May 2002, 00:55
What do you any of you know about The New World Order.....

FtWfTn
21st May 2002, 02:01
Hollywood Hulk Hogan. . . Brother!(not in it but he was cool)

Lurker021
21st May 2002, 03:25
Its called the UN.

j
21st May 2002, 03:54
The new world order is supposedly the idea behind the illuminati. They are supposed to have been the select few that have run the world since the beginning of time or something. It's a conspiracy theory.

Check this out, the back of the US dollar bill says "nouvus ordo seclorum" or new world order in latin. George Bush Sr. is supposedly one of the leaders of the new world order. Check out a book called Behold a Pale Horse. I forget who wrote it but its an interesting read--but don't take everything so seriously in it.

j

VolareMIRCantare
21st May 2002, 03:56
Does anyone know a guy called Gary Bell or the SpaceMan? He had a radio show in Toronto and talked about the new world order alot but he is no longer on the air. It was really interesting. He said the New World Order would be a one governmnet world run by the G-8 and other groups like that. He said that they would control EVERYTHING in an evil way. I don't know if the things he said were true but I wouldn't be surprised.

Divine Soldier
21st May 2002, 06:16
The New World Order is a one body government that govern's the world. We have to start to resist. Amerikka is trying to pass a Law saying that your right to own a gun doesn't apply to the average Amerikkkan or citzen in Amerikkka. Those new terrorist pre-known attacks are a bunch of bull shit. They are the foundation for the new world order. Check out "The Unseen Hand","The New World Order".......
Love and Revolution
P.E.A.C.E.

"Let's Get Free" Comrades

Revolution Hero
21st May 2002, 08:31
What countries do you think can resist to the USA?
My opinion is that China and Russia can. But they don't actually resist, they prefer friendly diplomacy.

After USSR have collapsed USA became the world's owner. Their dream of NWO and ruling the whole world almost came true.
Only communism is able to save the world!

Josip Broz Tito
21st May 2002, 10:25
I don't think that only Russia and China can resist U$A. I think that U$A is far more vulnerable than most people think it is. It is very simple. You just have to make some calculations. For example, take P as Attack Power (by any means, military, bio, terrorist, anything), and take V as vulnerability (level of exposure to P). Now we look at the example of September 11. There, we have two countries:

U$A P = 100
V = 100

Why P = 100 is more than clear. U$A is world only super-power. The strongest military power.
Why V = 100 can be very unclear to most people. Most people would argue that U$A has perfect defence system and that V is much lower. But U$A is geographically very big country with a multimillion cities that are exposed and vulnerable. That makes V a 100.
On the other hand we have

Afghanistan P=20
V=20

Again why P is 20 is simple and clear. Why V=20? Geography, way of life, ability to survive under difficult circumstances, long history of war, fanatics, hate towards U$A as a driving force.... Lots of things.
So, when we make this calculation P-V, outcome is

U$A=Afghanistan

Reuben
21st May 2002, 10:28
the new world order / one world government is shite.

Fires of History
21st May 2002, 11:33
If you're worried about a new world order, don't fret about just the U$. Equally important are IMF, the World Bank, and the WTO. You don't need conspiracy theories to see where those organizations would like to lead the world to.

Reuben
21st May 2002, 12:07
Yeah, FOH is right. the point is that we do not have democraccy, parliamentary instituions are under the contrl of the economic elite.

THIS IS CALLLED CAPITALISM.

The conspiracy theories are simply a stupid diversion from class struggle

Fires of History
21st May 2002, 13:25
Reuben,

Yeah, the truth is the best conspiracy theory.

Everything that is being done to undermine democracy and representation, destroy worker's rights, establish "free" trade, etc, is not being done is secret by any means. It's all right there for us to see, well, those of us that choose to see.

I agree with you though, conspiracy theories are a distraction. Just LOOK at what's going on, you'll find all the "conspiracy" you'll ever need.

hobo
21st May 2002, 18:26
just back on the subject of who could challenge america. i think if europe was a more united force it could at least change the US policy towards the rest of the world.

Borincano
21st May 2002, 23:32
I don't think the New World Order is totally a conspiracy theory. Yes, it can be streched to fiction, but it has many truth to it.

Like Fires of History mentioned in this thread, the IMF, WTO, and World Bank want a New World Order. Creating an actual world government over so many languages and cultures is difficult, but the thing that all countries share is money, economics, and greed. That is where Neoliberalism comes in. They want the world order to be one of the elite. That may already be taking place in most countries, but this time, it would be elite controling the entire world, not just an isolated nation. The USA backs this up, of course. It is a sneak attack that doesn't need mass revolutions and popularity like socialism and communism needs, just some corrupt leaders and maybe some coups. The New World Order of globalization and neoliberalism is becoming more and more open and accepted. This is destroying languages and culture, making it easier for us to conform and bow down to our elite leaders.

Hattori Hanzo
21st May 2002, 23:45
Yes, the true conspiracy is right in front of us, and a New World Order is not so unlikely

LeonardoDaVinci
21st May 2002, 23:57
New World Order = Wealth for America + Europe = Misery for everyone else

Borincano
22nd May 2002, 00:00
Perfect equation Leonardo!

ZaPaTiStA SoCiAlIsTa
22nd May 2002, 02:21
Iv read "Behold a pale horse" very interesting book. It was writen by a man named Bill Cooper. Bill cooper held many speaches about this nation wide, he was in the service for a while and that is how he discoverd all these things. According to his book, after he left the service, he held speaches which uncoverd the NWO, on his way home from these events, he was chased of a cliff by two gov. cars causing him to lose his legs. He is dead now. He was shot to death 3 days before 9/11 by FBI agents for the allegade rape of a woman (even though he had no legs and was close to 50). I think this incident was creepy, in a way it proves him right. :o

Unknown
22nd May 2002, 15:39
Something that makes me worry ( it may sound proposturous) is what if america achives properspace travel i mean like colinizing another planet then communisum/socalisum would be domed, i thinck the new world order is nt a cover up or any thing like that instead it is the american government like someone said earlyer destorying culture religion and other belifes by selling us clothes making us thinck we are all happy when globalization is just hidding round the couner....

maxfish17
23rd May 2002, 00:34
About Europe challenging the U$ policy, I doubt they could do much. They don't listen much to the European countries, except Britian, and although Tony Blair is supposedly a centrist politician, he seems very friendly towards all of Bush's ideas.

And here in Canada, it's worse. You'd think as the U$A's #1 trading partner, the government would have some power, but they basically go along with what the U$ wants.

M O E
25th May 2002, 05:34
The only thing that the US had to do was to teach everybody around the world how to become consumers. How more is better, how brand names mean better quality, how multi nationals are not evil but they improve our economy. Of course it's all bullshit, because when you have herds of mindless consumers who are just hungry for new trends, they will want more money to be able to afford all of this, so capitalism is the answer. You compete, and if you're the better man, you simply win, despite the fact that many people lack the social standard and funding to compete, so the US gives them loans, with interest, high interest, countries go into Cash Crop Syndrome to pay off the debts, but the price is too high and this results in more loans and more debts untill they go under the International monetary fund, where they become basiacally owned by the lending country. Sooner orlater the US will control the world this way, and they must be stopped.

Angie
25th May 2002, 06:03
The quality of most American products is crap, anyhow - if they're going to push consumerism, they'd best realise that their products aren't the ones worth selling. :biggrin:

Anonymous
26th May 2002, 00:10
New world order is an mediavel idea, the sacre roman empire tried to make it but was torn apart by civil war! it was a good idea for the mediveal thinkers, and in the renassence it was even a beter idea! but along with the industrialization came the patriotism and nacionalism and the concept os new world ordwer disepear nowdays with the capitalization and with modern economy that concept begins to make sense to the capitalists! besides the nazis tried to made it with the triple allience (Rome-Berlin-Tokio)!!!

DaNatural
26th May 2002, 03:19
In my opinin NWO is very real. They have been behind everything for many years, wars, money etc. I dont mean to scare you commies but in all honesty, texts about NWO and Illuminati say that the illuminati was behind marxist texts. They were written to piss off the oppressed and make them battle the rulers, thereby increasing deaths. THe illuminati's goal is to reduce the earths population to 3 billion. Then they say they will start fresh. Illuminati controls the federal reserve. They took control in the 1920's i beleive. No one wanted the american dollar in private hands but somehow the bill was passed on december 23 oddly enough only 3 people were in congress and it went through. They power over everything and dont think its a joke, peace.

Reuben
26th May 2002, 08:41
Who exactly do you mean when you say the illuminati?

M O E
28th May 2002, 04:30
Has anybody here ever heard of "The Free Macens"?

Nateddi
28th May 2002, 04:53
The new world order is an utter attempt at domination of society, at securing free-market capitalism as the only system with no alternative. The new world order will bring the utmost greatest profits to corporate America. Statistically, the rich has been getting richer, while the poor has been getting poorer. In 20 years we will all possess super computers, meanwhile the third world will still be a sweatshop, and it will be because of their "lack of democracy" or some other american bullshit excuse for exploitation.

I really have no clue about what to do about all this, it unfortunately seems much more inevitable than world socialism. As Lenin said, Imperialism is the highest and final phase of capitalism. The new world order is without a doubt the utmost capitalist imperialism, true imperialism the world has never seen. Hopefully we may see a world revolution someday as the new world order begins to expand greatly. I feel capitalism is a cancer, it will not stop until it conquers everything and runs out of people and land to conquer, the new world order shows just that.

Anonymous
28th May 2002, 17:09
Capitalist Cancer. good slogan man. so very true.

Divine Soldier
29th May 2002, 22:59
Y'all *****es love dances, and pulling down your pants
while your man's on tour, your spending up his advances
Your friends ain't shit, all they do is drink, smoke, and suck dick
The whole projects is trapped in stench
You either high school drop-outs, one to three cop-outs
Fifteen years old, shorty ass and top out
Ninety-nine cent beer drinking pussy stinking
Fucking so much your ass and titties start shrinking
New World Order slave trade, minimum wage, Medicaid
Can a devil fool a Muslim nowadays
Inside my lab, I'm going mad
Took two drags off the blunts, and started breaking down the flag
The blue is for the Crips, the red is for the Bloods
The whites for the cops, and the stars come from the clubs
or the slugs that ignites, through the night, by the dawn
Early light, why is sons fighting for the stripe
-RZA (Wu-Tang Clan)

Knowledge is Power!
Wisdom is the application of Knowledge!
Understanding is the combination of the two!
P.E.A.C.E
(Proper Education Always Correct Education)

sortedbastard
12th January 2004, 04:43
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2002, 03:56 AM
Does anyone know a guy called Gary Bell or the SpaceMan? He had a radio show in Toronto and talked about the new world order alot but he is no longer on the air. It was really interesting. He said the New World Order would be a one governmnet world run by the G-8 and other groups like that. He said that they would control EVERYTHING in an evil way. I don't know if the things he said were true but I wouldn't be surprised.
:o - Gary Bell is back - he's been back for (at least) a few months - and he's edgier than ever...
You can listen to him at mojoradio.com, and live ( or hatever) if you are not in Toronto...

His latest trip is connecting the dots on the occult signatures of what we see happening around us..

Saturday nights, about 12am until 2am. Eastern Time Zone....

ciao - sb -

Comrade Zeke
12th January 2004, 04:58
The new world power will be the Eroupean Union whether anyone likes it or not!! The United States is going to get over Inflated within the next 35 years the Hawaiins will break off from the USA the Southen states will also break off. On the other hand Eroupe will be united under the Eroupean Banner. Communism wil lfinally take hold in South America.
Comrade,Zeke :rolleyes:

M.L
12th January 2004, 20:31
USA:s latest strategy seems to be to desarme all their potential enemies nuclearweapons or stop their devoloping of them. This is of course good for world peace but USA can use this so those countries (India, Pakistan etc.) can't retaliate if the allmighty USA is to "save" the people from tyranni.

Under the time they desarme their weapons USA improve their own ones. They do not have any restrictions, they keep producing them.

The only counterpart for a USA world domination is EU, but as we all now they do not do much to stop this obvious American imperialism.


//Comrade Zeke..
I love your Utopia!