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Subversive Pessimist
8th September 2004, 10:03
By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A spate of attacks including a suicide car bombing pushed the number of U.S. military deaths in the Iraq (news - web sites) campaign past 1,000, with the majority inflicted by an insurgency that bloomed after President Bush (news - web sites) declared major combat over.


Fighting with Sunni and Shiite insurgents killed eight Americans in the Baghdad area on Tuesday and Wednesday, pushing the count to 1,003. That number includes 1,000 U.S. troops and three civilians, two working for the U.S. Army and one for the Air Force. The tally was compiled by The Associated Press based on Pentagon (news - web sites) records and AP reporting from Iraq.


Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld cited progress on several fronts in the Bush administration's global war on terrorism and said U.S. enemies should not underestimate the willingness of the American people and its coalition allies to suffer casualties in Iraq and elsewhere.


"The progress has prompted a backlash, in effect, from those who hope that at some point we might conclude that the pain and the cost of this fight isn't worth it," Rumsfeld told a Pentagon news conference. "Well, our enemies have underestimated our country, our coalition. They have failed to understand the character of our people. And they certainly misread our commander in chief."


The Bush administration has long linked the Iraq conflict to the war on terrorism. The Sept. 11 Commission, however, concluded that Iraq and al-Qaida did not have a "collaborative relationship" before the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington, and some have questioned to what extent foreign terror groups are involved in the anti-U.S. insurgency in Iraq.


Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) issued a statement saying the United States joined the friends and families of those who died in mourning their loss.


"Today marks a tragic milestone in the war in Iraq. More than one thousand of Americas sons and daughters have made the ultimate sacrifice. Our nation honors their service and joins with their families and loved ones in mourning their loss," Kerry said.


"We must never forget the price they have paid. And we must meet our sacred obligation to all our troops to do all we can to make the right decisions in Iraq so that we can bring them home as soon as possible."


The 1,003 figure includes deaths from hostile and non-hostile causes since the United States launched the Iraq campaign in March 2003 to topple Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s regime. All but 138 of the U.S. deaths came after Bush's May 1, 2003 declaration of an end to major combat operations after Saddam fell.


The U.S. military has not reported overall Iraqi deaths. The Iraqi Health Ministry started counting the dead only in April when heavy fighting broke out in Fallujah and Najaf. However, conservative estimates by private groups place the Iraqi toll at least 10,000 — or 10 times the number of U.S. military deaths.


"It is difficult to establish the right number of casualties," said Amnesty International's Middle East spokeswoman, Nicole Choueiry. She added that "it was the job of the occupation power to keep track of the numbers but the Americans failed to do so."


The grim 1,000 mark was surpassed after a surge in fighting, which has killed 17 U.S. service members in the past four days. A soldier was killed early Wednesday in when a roadside bomb struck a convoy near Balad, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad. Two soldiers died in clashes Tuesday with militiamen loyal to rebel Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Five other Americans died Tuesday in separate attacks, mostly in the Baghdad area. Seven Marines were killed Monday in a suicide car bombing north of Fallujah. Two soldiers were killed in a mortar attack Sunday.


In the insurgent-held city of Fallujah Wednesday, U.S. warplanes struck suspected militant hideouts used to plan attacks on American forces, the U.S. military said. At least two people were killed in the strikes, hospital officials said.


Witnesses said a series of explosions rocked the city before dawn and again later in the day and that jets swooped low over eastern and southern neighborhoods.


Wednesday's attack targeted a militant "command and control headquarters that has recently been coordinating attacks" against coalition forces, the military said in a statement.


On Tuesday, U.S. jets fired several missiles into Fallujah in retaliation for militant attacks on Marine positions outside the city, the military said. Four people were killed and 11 wounded in those strikes, Fallujah hospital officials said.


In a statement late Tuesday, Marine spokesman Lt. Col. T.V. Johnson said "significant numbers of enemy fighters (up to 100) are estimated to have been killed" by Tuesday's missiles. The claim could not be verified, and Johnson acknowledged that U.S. forces have "not entered the city of Fallujah."





Fighting between U.S. soldiers and al-Sadr's militiamen erupted Tuesday when U.S. officials said the cleric's gunmen fired on Americans carrying out patrols in the Sadr City district of Baghdad. Two Americans died in the fighting, U.S. officials said.

A senior Iraqi Health Ministry official, Saad al-Amili, said 35 Iraqis were killed and 203 wounded in the Sadr City clashes. An al-Sadr spokesman, Sheik Raed al-Kadhimi, blamed "intrusive" American patrolling for the fighting.

"Our fighters have no choice but to return fire and to face the U.S. forces and helicopters pounding our houses," al-Kadhimi said in a statement.

Late Tuesday, the militia announced a unilateral cease-fire but said it would fight back in self defense. It was unclear whether the statement had any meaning since the militia routinely defends its actions as legitimate self defense.

U.S. Army Capt. Brian O'Malley said he was unaware of the cease-fire offer but that the area was quiet in the early evening. "We only fire when we are fired at, but we will not stop our patrols or withdraw from our positions," he said.

At the Pentagon, Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, blamed the spike in U.S. combat deaths on an insurgency that "is becoming more sophisticated in its efforts to destabilize the country."

"We are aggressively seeking and capturing those insurgents who are not willing to do so themselves, but are encouraging people to commit suicide attacks," Myers told reporters Tuesday. "Make no mistake, we will continue to pursue those who seek to disrupt progress in Iraq."

During the Sadr City fighting, U.S. warplanes flew over the sprawling neighborhood — home to some 2 million people. American tanks deployed in key intersections. Ambulances with sirens wailing rushed the wounded to hospitals as plumes of heavy, black smoke rose over the mainly Shiite neighborhood.

U.S. forces appeared to be carrying out most, if not all, of the fighting. No Iraqi security forces were seen during the clashes, though U.S. spokesmen talked of "multinational forces" involved in the operations, a term that sometimes includes Iraqi troops.


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fuerzasocialista
8th September 2004, 10:56
Over a thousand dead and what do they have to show for it?? Nothing. Not a damn, solitary thing. And many Americans still want to vote for this friggin lunatic "president".

h&s
8th September 2004, 15:10
A good flash: http://www.chohomio.com/

fernando
8th September 2004, 15:14
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 10:56 AM
Over a thousand dead and what do they have to show for it?? Nothing. Not a damn, solitary thing. And many Americans still want to vote for this friggin lunatic "president".
Doesnt the other guy also want to have war? I mean I dont think he would pull out all US forces from Iraq...and didnt he also wanted to make sure US interest are secure in Latin America...which means Cuba and Venezuela might be potential targets of this loon

Conclusion: no matter who you vote for there...you're fucked!

h&s
8th September 2004, 15:20
Doesnt the other guy also want to have war? I mean I dont think he would pull out all US forces from Iraq
Quite right; he would send in more troops to 'finish off the job,' or as I would say, to finish off the Iraqi people. :angry:

fuerzasocialista
8th September 2004, 15:34
Originally posted by hammer&[email protected] 8 2004, 03:20 PM
Quite right; he would send in more troops to 'finish off the job,' or as I would say, to finish off the Iraqi people. :angry:
If they couldn't do it in Vietnam, they aren't gonna do it in Irak. There is just no way the US can win this war. Absolutely no way.

fernando
8th September 2004, 15:51
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 03:34 PM
If they couldn't do it in Vietnam, they aren't gonna do it in Irak. There is just no way the US can win this war. Absolutely no way.
Then they would just immediatly suck the country dry and try to take as many resources (primarily oil) with them

fuerzasocialista
8th September 2004, 15:59
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 03:51 PM
Then they would just immediatly suck the country dry and try to take as many resources (primarily oil) with them
They are trying to do that now but it isn't going very well for them. Oil pipelines keep getting blown up, soldiers getting killed, people being beheaded.. etc. They thought that if they threw there line in the water all they were going to catch were sardines but it turned out they caught a big-ass shark ready to take a bite out of their ass. This has been nothing more than an embarassment to the US but being that the media is playing it to a different tune to keep morale up, the average american has no fucking clue.

fernando
8th September 2004, 16:04
Which makes this war different from the Vietnam war...during the Vietnam War US crimes were also filmed, now the people only get very little information, which keeps the morale back home up...

fuerzasocialista
8th September 2004, 16:23
I beg to differ. The majority of people that I have met and spoken to about this war disagree with it totally. I believe that the general morale of the american people regarding this war is down in the dumps. The low morale is going to be one of the reasons as to why the US is not going to achieve squat. The high morale of Iraki resistance is going to be another factor. They know that they can outlast the soldiers. Its their country and they are not going to give it up until every last one of them is dead. And I don't think the US has the grapes to undertake that task.

refuse_resist
8th September 2004, 21:04
No matter which asshole that's in office, this war is only going to get worse. Kerry and Bush both want to increase the military presence in Iraq, Afghanistan, and all over the whole region. Plus Kerry has already been talking about Cuba and Venezuela, saying Bush is too soft on them. This war in Iraq has pretty much destablized that part of the world.