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Skeptic
4th September 2004, 23:30
Arnie's history is scorned in Austria

AP in Vienna
Saturday September 4, 2004

The Guardian

Austrian historians are ridiculing Arnold Schwarzenegger for telling the Republican convention in New York that he saw Soviet tanks in his homeland as a child and left a "socialist" country when he moved away in 1968.
Recalling that the Red Army once occupied part of Austria after the second world war, the California governor told delegates on Tuesday: "I saw tanks in the streets. I saw communism with my own eyes."

One historian, Stefan Karner, told the Vienna newspaper Kurier: "He could not have seen a Soviet tank in Styria."

Mr Schwarzenegger, admired by many Austrians for rising from a penniless immigrant to become a Hollywood star and now the governor of the most populous US state, was born in Styria in 1947. But the Russians left the province in 1945, said Mr Karner.

In his convention address, Mr Schwarzenegger also said: "As a kid, I saw the socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left."

But Martin Polaschek, a law history scholar and vice-rector of Graz University, told Kurier that, between 1945 and 1970, all Austria's chancellors were conservatives - not socialists.

Mr Polaschek saw the Republican governor's recollections at his party's convention as a tactical move. Mr Schwarzenegger, he said, was "using the old communist enemy image for Bush's election campaign."

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timbaly
5th September 2004, 02:59
I was kind of surprised when he mentioned seeing Soviet tanks. He would have to have been very young to remember that, since he was born after WWII. Plus he didn't live in a Soviet controlled region, as far as I knew. He also mentioned that he was afraid to go through Soviet checkpoints, fearing that his father or uncle would be deported. It just sounds like highly exagerated information to me.

wet blanket
5th September 2004, 06:31
McCarthyism still burns bright in the hearts of many conservative americans. The Cold War wasn't too long ago and many still believe socialism is a dirty word... It's no surprise that Arnold would say such a thing, after all, what better way to grab a crowd's support than to reaffirm the beliefs that they've been indoctrinated in since childhood?

Dio
5th September 2004, 06:54
"Today, the world no longer fears the Soviet Union, and it is because of the United States of America."

Whats up with that? I though the Soviet Union collapsed in the 80's.

wet blanket
5th September 2004, 09:08
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 06:54 AM
"Today, the world no longer fears the Soviet Union, and it is because of the United States of America."

Whats up with that? I though the Soviet Union collapsed in the 80's.
He's saying that, in this present day, the world no longer has to fear the Soviet Union because the USA was responsible for the dissolution of the USSR in the 80's.

While the truthfulness of the statement is debatable, it wasn't really that hard to understand

refuse_resist
6th September 2004, 10:15
What's funny is how he said the government of Austria at the time he was there was socialist when they were actually conservatives. If he considers conservatives to be socialists, I really don't want to know about his views.

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
6th September 2004, 10:33
This dumbness of him goes even further. Styria was under British control. So damn those British commies! :lol: :P