Your View On : Freedom

[DRS]

what are your ideas of freedom? do you want freedom? how do you see freedom?

My view of freedom is to more or less, have to listen to no man, not being forced into something i dont want to do, have someone having the power over me to order me around. Where everyone is equal, but of course, never on earth will their be freedom

we all have to work to stay alive, america? land of the free? freedom is a mere crazy lunatic idea in our minds that we all strive for but will never reach, its a fact.

Thats a reason why i learnt about communism, for the working class, the people at the bottom of the scale with nothing, the most oppressed.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Having full freedom would mean a world without any rules. The right of the strongest - there wouldn't be any rules to prevent people from hurting or exploiting each other. Even the slightest form of organisation would be excluded, any organisation requires some sort of rules or guidelines to be followed by all members. An unorganised, chaotic world.

What we need to do is increase our freedom. By giving us more choices over our own lives. Bringing back the number of rules to the essence, no laws to forbid gay marriage or drugs, but laws to protect us, humans from hurting each other. I for instance I would never support the freedom to achieve great material wealth.

You should be very carefull with using such an abstract term as freedom. Bush offers freedom, Stalin offered freedom, but all in a different sense. Bush gives you the freedom to rise in classes, to fullfill "The American Dream". Stalin gave the freedom to built the USSR.

Cheer up! We can achieve "freedom" in the sense that we can achieve maximum liberty for ourselves without endangering the lives of our fellowhumans.

[Essential Insignificance]

what are your ideas of freedom? do you want freedom? how do you see freedom?

Freedom, for me implies -- autonomy, self-determination and independence of all the social constructs that are hereby present in class society.

And what is class society founded on -- private property --and what is private property founded on -- the estrangement of labor. In capitalist society the workers labor is external to him, he must if physical life's needs are to be meet, degrade himself to the whims of the capitalist class, not one capitalist, but the whole capitalist class -- this is not apart of his essential being -- he must objectify his life activity in to things which are alien to him, whereby the more he produces the more, "it" -- capital -- grow's over him and therefore, he is subordinated by the products of his productive power.

The workers labor is not voluntary, but compulsory, enforced labor; something which is in a constant antagonism to him, something that is totally alien and indifferent to his natural essence, something which is mandatory and contradictory to his life activity -- labor.

The emancipation of the working class from the estrangement of labor implies universal freedom.


My view of freedom is to more or less, have to listen to no man, not being forced into something i dont want to do, have someone having the power over me to order me around. Where everyone is equal, but of course, never on earth will their be freedom

Not in an abstract, conceptual, nonfigurative reality; but in a physical, material, objective world, freedom is a "total reality", but nature and human nature "binds" us to the most "conceivable" reality.


we all have to work to stay alive, america? land of the free? freedom is a mere crazy lunatic idea in our minds that we all strive for but will never reach, its a fact.

That's right, but the degree, intensity and amount of labor time to "stay alive", would be entirely undersized, in contrast to today's standards, in a communist society.

You're thinking far too abstractly; mankind will always have to "conform" to his nature, and external nature, which conditions him.