Che T-shirts Explained

[DRS]

http://www.bullymag.com/1.20.03/stupidity-012003.asp

[Palmares]

That guy was as ignorant as the people he was attacking.

Che a 'Stalinist'? Please... :rolleyes:

[DRS]

he said that? lol, i skimmed it through it, seeing the bits about capitalists using Che's face as a way for the capitalist way to move on. The thing Ché fought against, is using him to improve their way of life, the way of life he had been fighting

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

Che would have supported Stalin back when the USSR helped save the Cuban Revolution from collapse.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Che did support Stalin.
Doesn't bother me very much.

[Abadali_the_Scholar]

acctually the guy has a point. i have seen people wearing the shirts just cause.. ohh this guy is cool, and other people are wearing him.

[Palmares]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2004, 07:10 AM
Che did support Stalin.
Doesn't bother me very much.
He didn't before he was killed did he? :huh:

[Al Creed]

Personally, I don't expect much less from something called "Bully Magazine."

As well, If he was a Stalinist, so what? Doesn't make him Stalin, does it?

[YKTMX]

Yes, Che supported Stalin but that doesn't make him a "Stalinist". Che's greatest enemy was U.S. Imperialism and what country pronounced itself the enemy of imperialism? The USSR and who was the Soviet Union's greatest leader? If you believed the hype (as most socialists did) it was Stalin.

If Che was a Stalinist he wouldn't have left Cuba to fight other revolutions. He would have stayed, signed a few death warrants, built a massive bureaucracy to suppress the Cuban people and lived a brilliant, priveliged life in Cuba.

[James]

you do know though, don't you, that stalin (stalinism) wasn't isolated? Stalin didn't focus ONLY on russia.


Stalinism isn't defined as "when one becomes fat, stays in one's country, signs death warrants, builds massive bureaucracy to suppress the people and lives a brilliant, priveliged life in said country".

[Palmares]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 06:20 AM
If Che was a Stalinist he wouldn't have left Cuba to fight other revolutions. He would have stayed, signed a few death warrants, built a massive bureaucracy to suppress the Cuban people and lived a brilliant, priveliged life in Cuba.
Good point.

I don&#39;t mind &#39;Stalinists&#39; (as in authoritarians) much... <_< But I hate Stalin idolisers... :angry:

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I don&#39;t know about you guys, but to me if he supports Stalin, then he&#39;s a Stalinist, no?

I&#39;m no Stalinist, but I still admire and support Che&#39;s actions.

Luckily Che didn&#39;t actually act upon his Stalinism, as opposed to other revolutionary socialist factions.

[Orange Juche]

Im kind of still learning about socialism... but can someone give me an in depth definition of these four. I semi-think I have a grasp, but not quite.:

Marxist-Leninism
Stalinism
Trotskyism
Maoism

[Orange Juche]

Im kind of still learning about socialism... but can someone give me an in depth definition of these four. I semi-think I have a grasp, but not quite.:

Marxist-Leninism
Stalinism
Trotskyism
Maoism

[Orange Juche]

Im kind of still learning about socialism... but can someone give me an in depth definition of these four. I semi-think I have a grasp, but not quite.:

Marxist-Leninism
Stalinism
Trotskyism
Maoism

[NovelGentry]

I don&#39;t think support makes you something, subscribing to ideas does. I support the end goal of what Lenin and Stalin (and Trotsky for that matter) were trying to achieve -- Thus I support them in the sense that I would have liked to see all their ideas work to bring about communism in one form or another. But I do not subscribe to all their ideas on how to make that possible, thus I am not a Leninist, Stalinist, or Trotskyite(ist). I will support any comrade who desires such goals, but that does not mean I will blindly support their methods of achieving it.

[NovelGentry]

I don&#39;t think support makes you something, subscribing to ideas does. I support the end goal of what Lenin and Stalin (and Trotsky for that matter) were trying to achieve -- Thus I support them in the sense that I would have liked to see all their ideas work to bring about communism in one form or another. But I do not subscribe to all their ideas on how to make that possible, thus I am not a Leninist, Stalinist, or Trotskyite(ist). I will support any comrade who desires such goals, but that does not mean I will blindly support their methods of achieving it.

[NovelGentry]

I don&#39;t think support makes you something, subscribing to ideas does. I support the end goal of what Lenin and Stalin (and Trotsky for that matter) were trying to achieve -- Thus I support them in the sense that I would have liked to see all their ideas work to bring about communism in one form or another. But I do not subscribe to all their ideas on how to make that possible, thus I am not a Leninist, Stalinist, or Trotskyite(ist). I will support any comrade who desires such goals, but that does not mean I will blindly support their methods of achieving it.