The real names

[Subversive Pessimist]

What was the real names of Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin?

[RedAnarchist]

Lenin - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov

Stalin - Josef Dzhugashvili/Dzugashvili/Djugashvili

Trotsky - Lev Davidovich Bronstein

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

I didn't know their names were fake, why'd they do that?

[Ziggy]

i'm unsure about the others but stalin means steel, he wanted to show his power and strength

[Saint-Just]

Lenin named himself after the river Lena. Stalin meant 'Steel'; not 'Man of Steel'. Both names were to demonstrate their devotion to revolution. Stalin adopted his pseudonym after being released from prison, many revolutionaries adopted names like these to avoid being recognised so easily by the authorities. Lenin chose his name to show his opposition to Georgi Plekhanov, a comrade of Trotsky. Plekhanov had named himself after the river Volga. The river Lena ran in the opposite direction to the Volga.

[Louis Pio]

Lenin chose his name to show his opposition to Georgi Plekhanov, a comrade of Trotsky.

Sorry Chairman but this is wack, seriously wack and should be below your level.
Plekhanov the friend of Trotsky...
As you might remember Plekhanov was the founder of russian marxism and the teacher of especially Lenin. So Lenin was on more friendly terms with Plekhanov back in the days and he later broke with him. Plekhanov however was despite his later degeneration the author of many good marxist works. So why this strange sideremark? What are you trying to imply? Should Lenin then be put down for his friendship with Plekhanov or Kautsky?

On Trotsky, he choose his name, after being in prison. It was the name of one of the jailkeepers. Back in those days it was quite common to choose pseudonyms as to divert the attention of the secret police.

[Kaan]

Apparently after the revolution, many Russian people changed their names to things like the Russian word for "worker" and other such "working class" names to show devotion to the Russian revolution. Stalin chose the word for steel, but that was before the revolution but most likely for the same sort of reasons.

[Hate Is Art]

win what?

King of Utter Bollocks?

[gaf]

Originally posted by The Arcadian [email protected] 28 2004, 04:56 PM
win what?

King of Utter Bollocks?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i'm out again but not frustrated....they are!
and yeah if i squeaze yours you will never be able to be king...heum what is his name already?

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 01:29 PM
As you might remember Plekhanov was the founder of russian marxism and the teacher of especially Lenin. So Lenin was on more friendly terms with Plekhanov back in the days and he later broke with him. Plekhanov however was despite his later degeneration the author of many good marxist works. So why this strange sideremark? What are you trying to imply? Should Lenin then be put down for his friendship with Plekhanov or Kautsky?

On Trotsky, he choose his name, after being in prison. It was the name of one of the jailkeepers. Back in those days it was quite common to choose pseudonyms as to divert the attention of the secret police.
What do you mean by 'back in the day'? Both Lenin and Trotsky broke with Plekhanov. However, Lenin did so in 1903.