Vote: TO DESTROY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OR NOT? - This

[GUERILLA MAN]

DESTROY AMERICA?
Yes/No

[Xenoth]

hmmmm a difficult question
absolutely YES

[Fires of History]

That's pretty vague. Think you could define what you mean exactly?

[Zippy]

I'd much rather take a vote on whether or not the minimum wage should rise.

Zippy.

[BOZG]

A big ass YES

[Sasafrás]

That's just stupid...

NO

The focus should be on reform, not destruction...

[revolutionary]

destroy the leaders
re-educated the masses

[Derar]

Eeerrrrrm , YES !!

[CheGuevara]

That's a big 'no'. I wish you foreign bash-EVERYTHING-America-does-and-is would shut up.

[I Will Deny You]

Oh yes, absolutely. Let's destroy the USA right now. You can get a few of your 12-year-old friends who you met at a RATM concert and I'll get some of my 12-year-old friends who I met at Pacific Sunwear and we'll all storm the Pentagon with Super Soakers, or possibly ketchup bottles like they used in Good Burger. After we take over the Pentagon we'll execute all the capitalists in our moms' gardens or our dads' toolsheds. (Note to self: See if my middle school's gymnasium would hold enough gallows to get rid of everyone who's ever eaten at McDonald's.) After our 12-year-old friends install me as dictator, be sure to remind me to stay out of the Northwest and the Bible Belt, because if I went anywhere near there I'd be shot dead in five seconds. Of course, we'll also have to kill anyone involved in NATO because otherwise they'd send in some troops that would remove all 10 members of our new government. (Well, there would be 12 if you include my Chip and Dale stuffed animals. I know, maybe we could strengthen our government by appointing our pets to important posts like Caligula did!)

Of course, we might have a bit of a problem when all of the redneck military commandos run off with our nuclear arsenal and sell our weapons to Le Pen, but you can post: "Vote: TO BLOW UP THE ENTIRE WORLD SO THEY DON'T NUKE OUR NEW GOVERNMENT OR NOT?" as a new topic tomorrow.

Let's go overthrow someone,
Lindsay

[CheGuevara]

Well, overthrowing the capitalist US government certainly is a different topic. I got the impression this was a "should Europe nuke America?" or something along those lines.

[ZaPaTiStA SoCiAlIsTa]

No, America should not be destroyed. The current American system must go but although most American citizens are mindless drones, they are still innocent (some, not all). Reform is the key word! destruction would just open the spot for another oppressive force to take control and fill in the job as the worlds pig (police man)

[Sasafrás]

Quote: from CheGuevara on 5:14 pm on May 14, 2002
That's a big 'no'. I wish you foreign bash-EVERYTHING-America-does-and-is would shut up.You know, for once sweetie, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

IWDY, HAHAHA! I can't stop laughing :biggrin:

[Dynatos]

HELL NO! theres nothing wrong with USA, it's just the U$A that fucks up everything.

[Nateddi]

Quote: from La Rainbeaux on 1:21 am on May 15, 2002

Quote: from CheGuevara on 5:14 pm on May 14, 2002
That's a big 'no'. I wish you foreign bash-EVERYTHING-America-does-and-is would shut up.You know, for once sweetie, I agree with you wholeheartedly.


El es feliz para usted, Shayla

[Sasafrás]

Quote: from Nateddi on 7:58 pm on May 14, 2002
El es feliz para usted, ShaylaHuh? "He is happy for you, Shayla"?

[Nateddi]

for agreeing with him :biggrin:

[Sasafrás]

Oh, Okay... Thanks for the prompt response :biggrin:

[Nateddi]

Yes, what else can I do but hit refresh on my browser every 10 seconds looking for new replyes

[liderDeFARC]

OK, it would be wrong to kill "innocent" people; lets consider them the brainwashed fools. We dont hate the people many of them are oppressed. I hate the Government and its accomplices... yes that includes Bush and Bloomberg and some others who are also cruel and unusual. After they are dead or ummm something similar we reform... change and help out these innocent sheep.

What im writing sounds like crap but no dont you think that would be a bit too extreme? Or is it?

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from La Rainbeaux on 8:21 pm on May 14, 2002
IWDY, HAHAHA! I can't stop laughing :biggrin:
Yeah, I figured a Keenan & Kel reference would score big with you youngsters.

[CheGuevara]

Sorry Nateddi, but I don't get my funsies from when people agree with me. That's not what I'm about. Other forum members, however....

[Valkyrie]

Ha Ha Ha Lindsey, Your scenario reminds me of an old 1960's cult movie called 'Wild in the Streets. I saw it only once in my life on late-late-late night TV circa 1981. A teenage rockstar hippie biker decides to overthrow the government and install himself into the presidency. His coupe de'tate consists of lacing the reservoirs of Washington with Acid (LSD)-- Cut to Congress in session laughing hysterically like mindless lunatics. Overthrow complete. . the first act of this new young government was to round up everyone over 30 ("Don't trust anyone over thirty" remember that nugget of truth? Ha!) and put them on farms, where they, also obviously tripping on some of Ken Keyses Electric Kool-Aid Acid play ring-around-the- rosey all day. The finale of this movie was that the underling generation, 5 and 6 years old, decide they want to overthrow the new hippie government and some guerilla warfare ensues between the two generations with the weapon of choice -- bows and arrows. HA hahahahah!!!! Check it out if you can. It is wickedly memorable!

[Sasafrás]

Quote: from I Will Deny You on 9:26 pm on May 14, 2002
Yeah, I figured a Keenan & Kel reference would score big with you youngsters.
It wasn't that, because I don't think I've ever really seen all of Good Burger anyway... The gallows thing and all that talk about 12 year-olds was amusing...

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(Edited by La Rainbeaux at 11:39 pm on May 14, 2002)

[Shyne]

i love it here in the US. why would you wanna destroy everything for ME?!?!

[Ian]

Destroy the whole country and population? NO
Destroy the system by revolution? YES

[Lakay]

We dont like to destroy u.s.a. because only their government is our enemy and not the people itself. We have compañeros in there like the communist party of U.S.

[Revolution Hero]

Destroying the whole country doesn't go together with communist ideology, which is peaceful by it's nature.
USA is 100% ready for the change to socialist system and communism as the final level of development. What is needed is to overthrow capitalistic government and to set the dictatorship of proletariat, to set the true democracy- the rule of the majority of the population.

[BOZG]

OK, I'll just clarify my stance on this. When I said 'A big yes', I did mean destroying the system and the state and not actually the people or the country by bombing the hell out of them.

[Dhul Fiqar]

A big yes for me then :)

--- G. Raven

[Xenoth]

oooo Shyne loves america... how nice :)
This america kill our future, little..
This america exploit my country and other countries..
We are not happy...
UNDERSTAND??
i hate it and good solution for other countries is a world without AMERICA...

[CheGuevara]

Shut up. Turkey has rarely been on the receiving end of the shaft from any nation, and has in fact shafted quite a lot of people, such as the Kurdish Communists who were fighting against capitalism, and then there was that little matter of the thousands of Armenians massacred by the Turks during WWI. The enemy is capitalism, and to pin ALL of the troubles of the world on one country, although I'll admit many, if not the majority, have to do with the USA, is naive, immature, stupid, and ineffective, as it will get the workers nowhere.

[Xenoth]

ahaaa Kurdish communist.. pah..
1. all of them are kurdish nationalist except some comrades and they fought with america against my country. i can explain with documentaries.
2. You haven't got any knowledge about WWI. If you wish i can explain by ottoman and by soviet documentaries.
It is another game of America and they want to divide my country and you support those. You watched only capitalist view. You must look this evenings in two side.
Asala terror organization and PKK terror organization.
search it and come to me...

[CheGuevara]

Yes, I'm sure the Ottoman documentaries would paint a very unbiased picture of what they were doing to the Armenians.

[Xenoth]

okay, how about Soviet documentaries?????

[CheGuevara]

I trust very little that comes out of the Soviet Union, but I'd much rather watch that than an Ottoman-made documentary.

[Xenoth]

What do you know about Armenians in Turkey?
Prove.... Search....
i can prove.
Think. Why america and france support this armenian geocide(it isn't real)??? Why only capitalist countries???
brother, capitalists use you, too. Awake...
It is a big Lie... I can't say that i say true.. I say only search and then come to me... You heard little gossips about my country and want to sell this gossips to me...

[CheGuevara]

http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/alpha/armenia1915.htm

[El Che]

America isn`t the problem. But anyway.... I wish che-lives would impose age restrictions.

(Edited by El Che at 11:54 pm on May 15, 2002)

[Sasafrás]

Quote: from El Che on 5:53 pm on May 15, 2002
America isn`t the problem. But anyway.... I wish che-lives would have age restrictions.What should they state?

[El Che]

They would state an age restriction :D

[pastradamus]

it should state that one should have better than the mental capicity of a 6yr old.

[Sasafrás]

Quote: from El Che on 5:55 pm on May 15, 2002
They would state an age restriction :D
What? I'm saying, "What should the age restrictions be?"

[LeonardoDaVinci]

Change the system (yes)
Destroy the country (no)

I have to say, some people in these forums have very extreme and totalitarian views.

PS - Xenoth, the Armenians have been massacred in Turkey. And to deny the genocide of the Armenians by the Ottomans or trying to defend is inexcusable.

[Fires of History]

About age restrictions: Anyone can lie about that on the net; would be ineffective.

About destroying "America": While the U$ is one of the largest proponents of 'free' trade, I agree with El Che that amerikkka isn't the be all and end all of the problem. The U$ isn't the only nation addicted to capitali$m, materialism, and consumerism. Their are just as many people who disagree with the state of affairs in the U$ as any other nation. Instead of destroying "America," why not attack the mindset that views monetary gain as the sole individual virtue at the expense of social solidarity and community.

If the U$ was "destroyed," another nation would just takes its place. Better to destroy the majority's addiction to materialism and individual gain, and work to reinstitute concepts that support a thriving community and healthy society that benefits all.

The enemy isn't one country, the enemy is the worldwide deification of self-interest over the needs of all.

[El Che]

La Rainbeaux, I wasn`t really serious about that. It was merely to ilustrate the point, that there is far to much infantile crap being posted around here. FoH states the obvious.

[Sasafrás]

Quote: from El Che on 6:31 pm on May 15, 2002
La Rainbeaux, I wasn`t really serious about that. It was merely to ilustrate the point, that there is far to much infantile crap being posted around here. FoH states the obvious.Oh..

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from Xenoth on 5:30 pm on May 15, 2002
Why america and france support this armenian geocide(it isn't real)??? Why only capitalist countries???
brother, capitalists use you, too.
The vast majority of the world's countries are capitalist. If you picked two at random of all the nations on the planet, chances are they would both be capitalist. Anyway, how exactly would America and France stand to profit from recognizing a century-old genocide?

[Hattori Hanzo]

Hey, now
You can screw the system, but I AM NOT SOME BRAINWASHED ZOMBIE

OH,
And if you DO decide to kill the population too,
I'LL BE WAITING TO CUT YOUR FUCKING HEAD OF WITH MY KATANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lakay]

I wish che-lives will organize hackers who can spread information anywhere. Not just in U.S. but in the whole world coz thats what we need and not just chatting around. Waste of time

[Lakay]

No. I say kill the pigs but not the humans. In U.S. there are many humans but ruled by pigs. Its just like planet of the pigs

[Maaja]

By destroying a country you wouldn't be smart. It would be better to change their system. And after all how you can be sure that you could built up a better country? Destroy only if you're sure about building up something better!

[Smoking Frog II]

Agrrreed with DaVici + pals.
The majority of America are norm. people
Somehting up with the ol' government.
Don't destroy
Don't kill the innocents
Kill those responsible for piggin'

[saorise]

We don't need to destroy America it's destroying itself with its foreign (and domestic) policy and the mindset of most of the American people.

[ID2002]

...violence won't do the job!
Reform will. (a new revolution)

[RGacky3]

I have so much anger that if I had it my way I would hang all the basterds, and destroy their country. But that would not be right or ethical, much better to reform, and give the U$ a second chance.

[BananaKing]

Destroy the United States or not?
Not :)

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[Fabi]

although there is a lot about the states that i dont or didnt like, i would not destroy it. there are people there that you'd kill, you know? and someone who'd kill is potentially dangerous.... ;)

no.... i have a lot of friends in america... i dont think i'd do that to any country... but then, im a wuss, so i dont count...

[Domino]

Oh yea, lets nuke the bastards... WTF?! Hope you note the sarcasm :biggrin:

Killing innocent people isn't the answer for the change, it's killing the system what should be done... hmm.. I think everyone already said that, LOL!

[Xenoth]

Hi,
The interests of American and France on Turkey:
Turkey has a strategical point which is situated between Europe, Russia and MIDDLE-East.
Middle East has strategical resource which is Oil.. If they have a so-called free Kurdistan, they would have a base on middle-east except Israel. They will control these lands more easily.
Russia is crown prince of Soviet union. So it can be super power. U.S. don't want any super power except itself. And the Caucasus... America support so-called Armenian state which is situated East Anatolia. This part of Turkey is next to Caucasus and Iran which is in Evil Axis (I am not sure that i chose correct word.. Bush said it)
Caucasus has the most quality Oil on the world. and next to old socialist countries Turkmenistan, .Kazakstan... They are rich by strategical resources and they are a great market for Capitalists

East Anatolia has strategical resources which are Uranium and Bor minerals which is used in Rocket Technology. Turkey has 90 % of the bor minerals in the world.
neighbours of East Anatolia: Iran, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia
neighbours of Sout-west Anatolia so-called Kurdistan:
Iraq,Syria, Iran.
Think about it!!!
Thanks Comrades.

[Angie]

No, America shouldn't be destroyed, just reformed.

Massive reform to the American Government, and to American society in general (since it tends to breed a certain ultra-patriotic mindset at the moment that's far from healthy), not to mention correct, unbiased, world-wise education for it's people.

A reinstallation of how important such documents as the Constitution and Bill of Rights actually are, is a necessity, too. That MUST happen - America is quickely losing sight of the ideals that made the Constitution and Bill of Rights so great, and is becoming a whole new society where "freedom" is now both a word and an ideal that means next to nothing, but sounds impressive.

[Josip Broz Tito]

It should not be destroyed, but it should be opposed in any sense. Resist !