Capitalists!

[RedAnarchist]

I have found the following information. I would advise you read about the weapons of mass destruction that many multinational corporations have.... to kill YOU.

Coca-Cola - It has sugar, which will rot your teeth.
It has caffiene, which can cause insomnia - which can cause mental
and physical problems.

Specialty burgers often have extra meat and sauces that can add calories and fat. For example, a Double Whopper with Cheese from Burger King has as much fat as is recommended for an entire day's worth of food.

At McDonald's a "Super Size" order of fries will cost you almost three times the calories and fat of the small fries. The sodium also increases to 17% of your daily allowance.

Salads can be deceiving. Fast Food restaurants often add fried items and excessive processed cheeses, taking away the healthy nutrition commonly associated with salads.

OBESITY CAN CAUSE CANCER. IT CAN CAUSE HEART PROBLEMS. IT CAN KILL YOU.


Its bad enough that you help these companies. But they are not doing anything for you, your health, your loved ones, their workers or the planet. Crush your addiction to these poison-mongerer's junk.

[Y2A]

Sooooo......drugs such as marijuana is bad for peoples health. I don't see why that should stop me from smoking marijuana. To each his own. Personally, I can't see how some fatass could just stuff hamburgers down his mouth all day long and then blame it on the evil corporations.

[RedAnarchist]

He cannot, but it is every person's responsibility not to eat such junk that is sold by companies such as Coca-Cola and McDonald's.

[Y2A]

So, now you have turned this thread from an attack on the health problems caused by over consumption of these products, simply to an attack on the companies that make these products.

[Danton]

It is everybody's right to eat and drink what the fuck they want. And balls to the health fascists, personally though I detest that stuff, my choice.

[RedAnarchist]

Of course it is, but the multi-national corportaions are two-headed monsters. They attack your and they attack your health.

[Y2A]

Yeah, and so does smoking marijuana, which many of you, and myself support. What is your point? Ever heard of personal freedom and responsibity?

[Pale Rider]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 10:14 AM
Yeah, and so does smoking marijuana, which many of you, and myself support. What is your point? Ever heard of personal freedom and responsibity?
I suppose that personal freedom should allow one to smoke and drink and eat whatever one chooses...but the responsibility side of the coin demands that you abstain because such bad behavior is bad for you and when your health declines, the cost of caring for you falls on everyone...even if you have insurance, money paid to care for you as a result of your bad habits falls to others in the form of higher premiums...and lets not forget lost productivity...and accidents that you may cause while under the influence...and that doesn't even begin to touch the emotional damage that you will inevetably cause to those close to you...

damn that responsibility....

[Y2A]

I agree with you that one must be responsible when taking such actions. However, I do not see why we must be limited to certain activities because insurance premiums might rise for some people. And talking about the effects of marijuana on our economy, I can assure you that the cost of jailing drug offenders is much higher then the "lost productivity", about 20,000K per year for each drug offender behind bars to be exact. I also can not see how someone can have the state of mind inwhich "productivity" is more valuable then personal freedoms.

[Danton]

I pay my godamn taxes, I'll eat, smoke, drink, snort, inject, stick under my eyelids, up my bum what the hell I like.

[h&s]

The point is that this shit is being enforced on the kids through targeted advertising and the like. Sure we should let people eat what they want when they can make a proper decision, but if you were a kid and you constantly saw McDonalds ads on the TV offering 'free' gifts, and showing other people like you enjoying the food, your going to want to eat it aren't you?
McDonalds advertising to kids is just the same as Tobacco companies advertising to kids as far as I'm concerened.

[Danton]

No-one's forcing anyone to eat anything. That's the bottom line, if parents succumb to their childrens whims against their supposed better judgement then that's their lookout. Companies like Mcdonalds are currently facing up to hard facts and attempting to offer healthier alternatives because that's what the consumer wants. The consumer dictates the market.

[Y2A]

Exacty. As if a 10yr old kid has an income. It's irresponsible parents that feed there kids this on a daily basis that are to blame.

[fernando]

Exactly, and you know when it gets really funny, when people who have cancer because they have been smoking their entire lives start to sue the tobacco companies, or fat women sueing Mac Donalds because they thought Mac Donalds was fully healthy and couldnt make you fat <_<

[revolutionindia]

These crazy capitalists will not only consume all this and grow fat and die but they will also sue these corporations for feeding them

CAPPIES ARE CRAZY&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[sparky44]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 01:30 PM
Exactly, and you know when it gets really funny, when people who have cancer because they have been smoking their entire lives start to sue the tobacco companies,
The tobacco companies were sued because they LIED about cigarettes....stated they were harmless and nonaddictive even though they knew differently. <_<

[Individual]

So wait a minute..

Are you proposing that under a communist society you are going to control what I eat as well?

Are you going to implant calorie counters in each individual, putting those that go over under the stake?

Fucking get a clue, this thread is worthless. You give a bad name to the ideology with shit like this.


McDonalds ads on the TV offering &#39;free&#39; gifts, and showing other people like you enjoying the food, your going to want to eat it aren&#39;t you?

Of course I would want it. Why? Because I&#39;m fucking hungry.

Now we are trying to blame capitalism for fatty foods. Where will this end?

It&#39;s demographics. You didn&#39;t really think advertising was going away under Marxism did you?

If you are that fallable that you give in to something because they offer a free plastic toy, I&#39;m not sure what else to think of you but sorry.

Go jump off a bridge. :huh: Maybe I&#39;ll give you a free toy if you do a few flips.

Damn, I&#39;ve just seen that Taco Bell commercial. I&#39;m hungry; I think I&#39;ll go get me a few double deckers.

[The New Yorker]

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God talk about droning it.

I almost belive the only purpose of this thread is to get a post count.

[sparky44]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 09:55 AM
I have found the following information. I would advise you read about the weapons of mass destruction that many multinational corporations have.... to kill YOU.

Coca-Cola - It has sugar, which will rot your teeth.
It has caffiene, which can cause insomnia - which can cause mental
and physical problems.

Specialty burgers often have extra meat and sauces that can add calories and fat. For example, a Double Whopper with Cheese from Burger King has as much fat as is recommended for an entire day&#39;s worth of food.

At McDonald&#39;s a "Super Size" order of fries will cost you almost three times the calories and fat of the small fries. The sodium also increases to 17% of your daily allowance.

Salads can be deceiving. Fast Food restaurants often add fried items and excessive processed cheeses, taking away the healthy nutrition commonly associated with salads.

OBESITY CAN CAUSE CANCER. IT CAN CAUSE HEART PROBLEMS. IT CAN KILL YOU.


Its bad enough that you help these companies. But they are not doing anything for you, your health, your loved ones, their workers or the planet. Crush your addiction to these poison-mongerer&#39;s junk.
Coca-Cola - Too much sugar/caffeine.....brush your teeth after drinking it......or switch to diet/caffeine free. Caffeine is also in chocolate and a large number of medications......take your pick. It will cause insomnia if taken within hours of going to sleep.....so use your head and don&#39;t drink caffinated drinks in the evening. Too much caffeine can cause physical problems but what mental problems other than addiction does it cause??

If one eats these specialty burgers all the time of course you&#39;re going to get fat, clog your arteries (actually the first deposits of fat are found in the arteries at the young age of about 6) etc. In moderation they won&#39;t kill you but eaten on a regular basis they will contribute to obesity and the diseases that go with it. In the next ten years obesity will overtake tobacco as the number one killer of North Americans.

It&#39;s the same with fries.....why supersize?? I won&#39;t tell someone how to eat but when they are in the hospital to be rehabilitated because of the side effects of their lifestyle it will be emphasized to them the importance of a proper diet.

Salads are fine if you control what goes on them.......skip most of the salad dressings but use oil and vinegar and no salt.....there&#39;s enough salt in our food already it doesn&#39;t need to be added as well.

Obesity is linked to certain cancers but the biggest problems are Type 2 Diabetes which in turn causes hypertension, heart disease, stroke, neuropathy, blindness, nontraumatic amputations, impotence and that&#39;s only to name a few. What about the toll it takes on the health care professionals that have to move this patient when they are immobile.......there are a lot of workplace injuries caused by obese patients.......but no one ever mentions them.

Don&#39;t blame the company......blame the one consuming the food to excess.....after all we have choices. :rolleyes: :P

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

We have a choice to smoke marlboros too. What&#39;s the difference? Fast food sucks

[Bourgeoisie]

Why Socialist cuisine can be hazardous to your health also. You could be standing in line all day waiting for your slice of moldy bread, and suddenly have a heart attack or catch the flu, from the extreme cold.

[sparky44]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2004, 11:56 PM
Why Socialist cuisine can be hazardous to your health also. You could be standing in line all day waiting for your slice of moldy bread, and suddenly have a heart attack or catch the flu, from the extreme cold.
Is that the best comeback that you&#39;ve got??? And I thought you commies had more spunk then that&#33;&#33;&#33;

:P :P :P :P :P :P

[Ortega]

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The fact that this food is unhealthy has nothing to do with capitalism. I agree, a lot of that should probably be avoided. But that has nothing to do with capitalism. Under socialism, I would hope that food of that type would still be available. People want to eat it, and that should be their absolute right.

[STI]

Originally posted by The New [email protected] 28 2004, 07:19 AM
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God talk about droning it.

I almost belive the only purpose of this thread is to get a post count.
You fucking homophobe shit. Go get fucked.

[Anarchist Freedom]

xphile what your sayingng is all true. But people can choose what they want to do who cares if some fatass loves mcdonalds. He will regret it in the long run just like a smoker will regret it in the long run.

[sparky44]

And why blame capitalism??? Ever see some of the food they eat in Cuba??? Ever see the way they prepare it??? They fry everything in grease.....not too good for the arteries. And many Cubans smoke as well so this isn&#39;t a capitalist thing......it goes on around the world.

[Nyder]

Originally posted by The wise old [email protected] 29 2004, 07:37 PM
We have a choice to smoke marlboros too. What&#39;s the difference? Fast food sucks
And who&#39;s forcing you to eat it - pinko? :rolleyes:

[Bourgeoisie]

And don&#39;t forget the Communist staple of Rice and Potatoes is no different than junk food. Its pure suger.

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 10:05 AM
And who&#39;s forcing you to eat it - pinko? :rolleyes:
You idiot anytime you switch on your TV you are constantly
bombarded with visual images of fast food and all commercials which
depict how fun eating all that junk is and all other shit like happy
families eat junk food at outlets of Mcdonalds and drink litres of pepsi

By being constanly bombarded by such commercials in the media and various other avenues of advertising you are manipulating people on a sub conscious level Especially young children who have un-developed minds who in turn to some extent influence the decisions that parents make about the food they eat

hence the kids force their parents to take them to McDonalds and the parents who cannot say No take their kids to McDonalds and unknowlingly cripple their children"s eating habits for the rest of their life

By selectively targeting kids you create a image that going to Mcdonalds will make you happy and cool when the truth is anything but that

One day you will drown in your own fat you crapitalist and their will be no life jacket on this planet that will be fit you

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 05:17 AM
By being constanly bombarded by such commercials in the media and various other avenues of advertising you are manipulating people on a sub conscious level
Quick, India, put on your aluminum foil hat before their mind-control waves take over your brain &#33;

[sparky44]

I&#39;m bombarded by commercials about fast food......doesn&#39;t mean I&#39;m going to go out and buy it. There are many parents who DON&#39;T allow their children to eat this stuff. Others give it as a treat......but don&#39;t generalize about all parents/people......not all of us like fast food. Nor do I drink litres of pepsi....I prefer Coke but I don&#39;t drink it every day nor do I drink litres of it. Get a life india and don&#39;t tell us what we do/do not do in North America......you don&#39;t live here........remember that.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[insurgency03]

if i wanted to get fat i can go to any family owned resteraunt in town, seeing that their food is much better than the shit that those food nazis at mcdonalds and places like that dish out by the billions.

[DaCuBaN]

And why blame capitalism??? Ever see some of the food they eat in Cuba??? Ever see the way they prepare it??? They fry everything in grease.....not too good for the arteries. And many Cubans smoke as well so this isn&#39;t a capitalist thing......it goes on around the world.

Yet Cuba has one of the longest life expectancies on the planet - look up the CIA World Factbook - they&#39;ll confirm it for you. Despite the fact that they are repressed under a horrific embargo from the least ethical nation on the planet, if you&#39;re born in Cuba you&#39;re more likely to outlive someone born in the US.

Besides, I live in Scotland, and all the criticisms you give there can be attributed to the Scots too - after all, we brought the world the Deep Fried Mars Bar :rolleyes: Yet we are a capitalist (mixed) state.


I&#39;m bombarded by commercials about fast food......doesn&#39;t mean I&#39;m going to go out and buy it. There are many parents who DON&#39;T allow their children to eat this stuff. Others give it as a treat......but don&#39;t generalize about all parents/people

The bit that annoys me, is not that I&#39;m being bombarded by this shit - I can see it for what it is, an attemp to sell me a product. Ergo, I can switch off to this and totally ignore advertising. If you are an adult, or an astute teenager this is not a difficult task. The problem lies in the advertising on kids TV and the like - when you aim these things at less-developed minds its tantamount to sumbliminal messaging - you attach ideas to a product - even when they don&#39;t have a direct link - to &#39;persuade&#39; another to buy it.

Ah, fuck it. Don&#39;t get me started on marketing.


And don&#39;t forget the Communist staple of Rice and Potatoes is no different than junk food. Its pure suger.

Potatoes aren&#39;t that bad, and are you telling me that the potatoe in various forms isn&#39;t part of your staple diet? Half the planet chows down on them&#33;

As for rice, there is a reason that it&#39;s so predominant - It&#39;s grown in floodplains, and in fact requires a lot of water - some 16 times it&#39;s own weight if I remember correctly - to grow. It&#39;s only used because in a lot of these places it&#39;s the only thing that will grow

Do your homework, please.

[Professor Moneybags]

Yet Cuba has one of the longest life expectancies on the planet - look up the CIA World Factbook - they&#39;ll confirm it for you.

Oh wonderful, then they can spend longer slaving away for the "common good".


Despite the fact that they are repressed under a horrific embargo from the least ethical nation on the planet

According to whose code of ethics ?


if you&#39;re born in Cuba you&#39;re more likely to outlive someone born in the US.

What about those who are shot just for disagreeing with the government ? Would they outlive someone born in the US who disgreed with the US government ?

You forgot to mention that the literacy rate is higher in Cuba than the US too, but then they can only read government-approved literature.

[Invader Zim]

I on occasion when I am with friends am forced to go to some junk food hole, if only to be sociable, the nearest I come to eating junkfood on a regular basis is fish &#39;n&#39; chips.

[socialistfuture]

What about those who are shot just for disagreeing with the government ? Would they outlive someone born in the US who disgreed with the US government ?

You forgot to mention that the literacy rate is higher in Cuba than the US too, but then they can only read government-approved literature.

what about the people the US govt took out cause they didnt like them?
eg the Sandinista govt of Nicaragua, the elected marxist govt of Chile, the attempted coup against Hugo Chavez... they have a long history of destroying dissent.

They also set up members of the Black Panther party and possiblt had a role in the murder of Martin Luther King and Malcom X - ppl that are sometimes free spend virtually their whole lives in death row, or other sections of prison. The US justice system if based on money and status. Amnesty international has publised reports of their unfair treatment of prisnors at the US base in Guantanamo Bay.

They refuse to work with the Geneva convention as well. USA is no saint - and it has a dark history against those who disagree with the Pentagon and military and police.

collateral damage and occupations/interventions aint freedom

[apathy maybe]

People should be allowed to eat whatever the heck they like. And smoke etc.

But companies should not be allowed to advertise crap. If we stopped McDonalds advertising their crap, they would not get nearly as many customers (which I think is a good idea). Children would not be getting fatter either. Sure you can blame the parent, but I blame society. It allows parents to be pushed around by their kids, and there is something wrong with that.

So while banning advertising for dangerous substances (alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, opium, fatty foods etc.) we must also change society to put more emphasis on children not watching so much crap on TV (which is were they see the ads) and getting more exercise (but not by promoting sports stars or the Olympics).

[Bourgeoisie]

Potatoes aren&#39;t that bad, and are you telling me that the potatoe in various forms isn&#39;t part of your staple diet? Half the planet chows down on them&#33;

As for rice, there is a reason that it&#39;s so predominant - It&#39;s grown in floodplains, and in fact requires a lot of water - some 16 times it&#39;s own weight if I remember correctly - to grow. It&#39;s only used because in a lot of these places it&#39;s the only thing that will grow

Do your homework, please.


Potatoes and Rice are absolutely deadly for the Human body. They both contain high amounts of Sugar. You don&#39;t want to argue this with me, steer clear of this.

What you don&#39;t think i know why Rice is so Predominant? If i didn&#39;t why the hell would i mention it in the first place?

[Bourgeoisie]

Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 6 2004, 03:59 AM
People should be allowed to eat whatever the heck they like. And smoke etc.

But companies should not be allowed to advertise crap. If we stopped McDonalds advertising their crap, they would not get nearly as many customers (which I think is a good idea). Children would not be getting fatter either. Sure you can blame the parent, but I blame society. It allows parents to be pushed around by their kids, and there is something wrong with that.

So while banning advertising for dangerous substances (alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, opium, fatty foods etc.) we must also change society to put more emphasis on children not watching so much crap on TV (which is were they see the ads) and getting more exercise (but not by promoting sports stars or the Olympics).
Why the hell shouldn&#39;t they advertise?

Do they make you eat their food?

I didn&#39;t think so.

Don&#39;t blame the children blame the parents for taking them there.

Heck they can get just as fat eating at home. People eat too many Carbs and sit on th couch all day.

[sparky44]

The life expectancy is the same as Canadas&#39; with women outliving men. They still have the same diseases as we do......hypertension, diabetes heart disease and cancer. They may have less obesity then 1st world countries but they also have a smaller population. They smoke, drink, eat fatty foods and they fry most of their foods but they don&#39;t have fast food restaurants like we do. White rice isn&#39;t good for you and I see way more beans in Cuba than potatoes. I&#39;ve seen very few potatoes in Cuba.....but both rice and potatoes are starches and too much is bad for you but what can you do if that&#39;s all you can get???

[Danton]

Rice is bad for you? Ha&#33; In Cuba, if you haven&#39;t eaten rice - you haven&#39;t eaten. A Carribean diet is vastly healthier than what westerners shove down their greedy gullets. Cuba encourages and helps citizens to grow their own organic vegetables and fruits.

[sparky44]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2004, 08:02 AM
Rice is bad for you? Ha&#33; In Cuba, if you haven&#39;t eaten rice - you haven&#39;t eaten. A Carribean diet is vastly healthier than what westerners shove down their greedy gullets. Cuba encourages and helps citizens to grow their own organic vegetables and fruits.
I said too much rice, especially white rice, isn&#39;t that good for you. The Cubans eat way too much salt since they add salt to already salty food. They also fry a lot of foods in oil which isn&#39;t that healthy for you. White bread is another staple of the Cuban diet.......guess what.......white bread is terrible for you. There is good and bad in the Cubans diet as well as in the Westerners diet since not all Westerners live on junk food.

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[revolutionindia]

News report

Doctors advice Bill clinton to stay away from fastfood and consider it as as a major factor responsible for bill clinton&#39;s health problems