Musical Assholes

[The Forum Idiot]

I'd say....
Axl Rose
Michael Jackson
The guys from Busted
The guys from Mcfly
The guys from Good Charlotte
Jonny Rotten - A not bad guy, but on stage he tried to be an asshole so yea
Iggy Pop - See above

[Purple]

oasis, saw the lead singer at an interview, he was so fucking "idontlikemyfans,mymanagertoldmetogo

[Sabocat]

Metallica.

Lars ruined Napster. For that he should receive the lifetime asshole award.

[Intifada]

I would have to agree with Axl Rose, Lars from Metallica, Busted and McFly.

I also hate Will Young, Gareth Gates, Black Eyed Peas, 50 Cent and Jay-Z.

[Purple]

most of the modern rappers, with their attitudes towards women, money, politics, etc

[Ziggy]

how was iggy pop an asshole on stage? i don't follow you on that one.

[refuse_resist]

There are too many to name.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

All the members of Good Charlotte, Sum 41, and Blink 182
KISS
Metalica - I really don't like any of them very much
Axl Rose
The "courtesy of the red, white, and blue" guy

[DaCuBaN]

Anyone who produces a music video.

[Urban Rubble]

I'm going to take DaCuban one step further and say pretty much anyone who has ever been on a major label.

Face it folks, money makes you a dick....most of the time.

If I was going to seriously have to choose, I'd go with.....The guy from that horrible band Sugar Ray. Somebody shoot that fucking dickhead.

[SittingBull47]

yea i know who you mean. that asshole from sugar ray, Mark McGrath (sp?) blatantly told an interviewer that he only went into music for money. It shows.

[DaCuBaN]

Now all this thread is missing is some nut to come along and tell us we're all 'musical puritans' or some shit...

Biggest asshole, if I had to name one, would be the guy who was manager of the Spice Girls, and also introduced such travesties into the world as Atomic Kitten.

To this day, I still cannot understand why either of those bands sold... :angry:

*EDIT*

Scratch that, everyone who chooses a life in music. You know what you're getting into, and if you choose to take a career in music you know you're selling your soul.

[dopediana]

in 6th grade i had the hugest crush on mark mcgrath.....


and he's definitely a dick.

[Guerrilla22]

Damn, I thought this thread was literally going to be about assholes that make music, oh well. I think we can safely call all mainstream musicians assholes, with the exception of the Old Dirty Bastard and Rick James.

[Floyd.]

There are exceptions to nearly every rule so with that in mind:

Rappers
Pop Stars
Nu Metal
Hair Metal
Comedy-music (weird al)
marketing
everyone involved in Pop Idol/Popstars/Starsearch
Fred Durst
Axl Rose
Justin Hawkins

[che's long lost daughter]

No other than Britney Spears
Yes, Fred Durst
Jay-Z, who eternally compares himself to Che and many rap artists who has nothing to talk about but sex and money
And all the girl and boy bands and solo girl singers who has nothing to show but their breasts (they have more than breasts than talent, their brain size is inversely proportional to the size of their breast) and belly button

[Louis Pio]

Glen Danzig seems to behave like a big "star", which is a big shame since I love his voice and music (both solo and Misfits)

[Invader Zim]

Shitknot.

lars

Elton John

Sid vicious

[atlanticche]

Fred Durst - need i say more

[The Forum Idiot]

Could everyone please stop attacking Metallica? Napster was being illegal anyway...Someone was bound to stop them. And Metallica are nice guys even if tehy do want more than their fair share of money. Don't forget they do give money to charities and stuff. But yea, stopping napster wasn't nice of them. Also, you can't just say anyone signed to a major label's an asshole. Nirvana weren't and they signed to Geffen (admittedly just before releasing their worst album (Nevermind), but yea). In general though a lot of major labels are assholes. Rock on 4AD, Sub Pop, K, Elektra and any other companies which sign competent bands.


Sid Vicious wasn't really an asshole....just messed up and killed someone....That's beyond asshole-dom

[DaCuBaN]

Napster wasn't about to put Metallica on the street now, was it?

No, they're all fucking wankers. Lars deserves castrated.

[Ziggy]

Originally posted by The Forum [email protected] 26 2004, 04:20 AM
Sid Vicious wasn't really an asshole....just messed up and killed someone....That's beyond asshole-dom
suuuuure, sid killed nancy.... you actually think someone with such a high level of heroin and whatever else he was taking could kill someone? the most likely theory is that it was the drug dealer.

[Urban Rubble]

It's well known that Sid and Nancy had a death pact. What was supposed to happen is that Sid was going to kill her and then OD on heroin. Well, he pussed out and then did himself in days later. I've actually never really heard people question whether it was him or not, it's pretty clear that is was in fact him that did it.

[Ziggy]

really? most people i've talked to said it was the drug dealer, and i remember someone from the ramones saying sid didnt do it.

[DRS]

I actually like rap alot, some of it can actually be really deep, like Biggie Smalls, Tupac, Nas, Ricochet Klashnekoff, Big Pun . They talk about the struggle and have almost always is most of their songs talked about the struggle of living in the ghetto and put women in a good light ( I perticulary like Tupacs " the rose that grew from the concrete")

But someone i really hate is 50 Cent, he tried to act like he was all prison hardened when he was only in there for 6 weeks, And he is suposiblly a snitch that run and called the cops when it got a little to hot.

and eamon, first off, He aint black!!!! and he's just a complete peice of comercial shit, and if you have seen that song " love them hoes " you will be wondering why this stupid twat thinks he's "ghetto"

[Michael De Panama]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 05:14 PM
Fred Durst - need i say more
Nah. Ever since September 11th, Fred's changed himself into a sweet, gentle, sensitive man.

Just read his Xanga sometime:
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=americanalien

[truthaddict11]

I have a musical asshole whenever i fart.

[The Forum Idiot]

Me too but shut up. The people who think sid didn't kill nancy (or at least he aided her in suicide) are as bad as those who think Kurt Cobain was murdered or Hendrix killed himself.

Metallica may have been looking out or the maany bands that would be puton the street by napster. Like the little indie guys. And they are nice people. They aren't total dick heads like axl rose.

And when it comes to rap I think some aren't that bad. Public Enemy? Tupac (never heard him but I heard he wasn't so bad)? Eminem isn't awful? Etc. But 99.999999% of all modern rap is crap. Same with "R'n'B". Real R'n'B is Leadbelly, BB King, etc. NOT Beyonce.

[DaCuBaN]

Man, read the thread. Half way through I threw out the assertion that anyone who by choice goes into the Music Industry is an asshole: It was tongue in cheek, but it's still mostly accurate: The little indie guys all work their arses off like the rest of us and do music as a hobby in many cases because they never do get enough money to survive off their music alone.

At any rate, CD sales provide for an opulent lifestyle, something I myself cannot justify: Gigging provides enough to make a living if your name is known.

[The Forum Idiot]

But what if your name is not known. Four Star Mary would die without CD sales. As would the Datsuns and much much more. The Vaselines only have 2 cds available and they both have the same stuff (different order, notes, etc) and gave up many years ago. They now live off the occasional CD sale and the royalties from Nirvana's Unplugged. They aren't exactly living like kings though.

[DRS]

Originally posted by The Forum [email protected] 27 2004, 08:39 AM
Tupac (never heard him but I heard he wasn't so bad)?

:| you have never heard of the greatest musical artist of all time?!??!?!/!?!!? !

sorry but i find that really hard to belive! if you were born just after 1996 i could see it, but how could you not hear of him???? He was the greatest rapper of all time and was turned into a legend when he was shot dead at the high point of his career!

[GrYnEt]

aron carter (big inside joke i can't stop laughing at) :)

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by lost [email protected] 24 2004, 09:17 AM
oasis, saw the lead singer at an interview, he was so fucking "idontlikemyfans,mymanagertoldmetogo
Liam Gallagher is fucking hilarious!

He once picked a fight with three members of the Italian mafia and got his teeth knocked out.

[The Forum Idiot]

Liam Gallagher isn't the smartest rocker I've ever known.


I've heard of tupac. Just never heard his music. I wanna though. Him and Public Enemy are some of the only rap I respect as music.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 08:54 PM
Anyone who produces a music video.
like anti-flag and nofx?
bullshit!
What about the rock against bush music videos

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 05:16 PM
Sid vicious
how fuckin dare you

[Ziggy]

"The interesting thing about Sid is that he did not really do much to shape Punk music, yet he remains one of its most enduring images. Sid really had the fashion image down, but he only actually plays on two songs on Never Mind the Bollocks. Sid is a classic example of style over substance. I was a sucker for his image. At age 15, one of the first stencils I ever made was Sid with the spiky hair, lock chain, and snarled lip Billy Idol copied. I guess the press really helped blow his image out of proportion... I look at Sid as less cool and more tragic these days, but he still sold more tee shirts than anyone else in Punk Rock. Sprite was wrong...image is everything!"
~ Shepard Fairey

[truthaddict11]

Originally posted by Comrade La [email protected] 25 2004, 01:40 AM

Comedy-music (weird al)
dude how is writing comedy music make you an asshole? I was listening to Dr DeMento last week and this hilarious parody of that In The Jungle song played it was all about Bush.

[Ziggy]

Holy crap you get Dr. DeMento! man, we dont get radio shows that cool out here, cept for underground garage and a prairie home companion....

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I though Dr. Demento was a local thing.
We get in on the classic rock station station over here.

I agree that comedy in music can be really good.

Frank Zappa had lot's of comedy in his music.
Listen to We're Only in it for the Money by the FZ and the Mothers and then tell me that comedy doesn't belong in music.

I will wander around barefoot
I will have a psychedelic gleam in my eye at all times
I will love everyone
I will love the police as they kick the shit out of me on the
street
I will sleep...
I will, I will go to a house
That's, that's what I will do
I will go to a house
Where there's a rock roll band
'cause the groups all live together
And I will join a rock & roll band
I will be their road manager
And I will stay there with them
And I will get the crabs
But I won't care
:lol:

[socialistfuture]

add facist black metalers to the list yeah maybe some maybe cool music and can be enviromental but theyre racist, violent fucks.

we need leftie black metal!!!

[Purple]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2004, 11:17 AM
add facist black metalers to the list yeah maybe some maybe cool music and can be enviromental but theyre racist, violent fucks.

we need leftie black metal!!!
there is a couple of lefty black metal bands, but most of them dont get any specfic idiology... the only thing they got in common in such manner is that they are against christianity..

[kickmydog32]

What about RATM? They rapped but they were still really good. I would love to have seen that oasis vs mafia fight

[The Sloth]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 02:46 PM
:| you have never heard of the greatest musical artist of all time?!??!?!/!?!!? !

sorry but i find that really hard to belive! if you were born just after 1996 i could see it, but how could you not hear of him???? He was the greatest rapper of all time and was turned into a legend when he was shot dead at the high point of his career!
Why would you talk that mess?

Tupac is faaaar from being the best rapper...I can think of twenty right off the top of my head that Tupac couldn't best in terms of flow, lyrics, political and social consciousness.

He is a man of great influence -- and if you are comparing him to other mainstream rappers, also a man of great talent. However, the second you compare him to artists from the underground, he is far overshadowed in every possible way.

[Dyst]

Tool is probably the coolest "political aware" music I have ever heard.

[1949]

The Forum Idiot:

Don't forget they [Metallica] do give money to charities and stuff.
So do Linkin Park, does that mean they shouldn't be shot?

[Hate Is Art]

for comedy music download the full 18 and a half minutes of Arlo Guthries "Alices Restraunt" Fucking Classic.

Clappers is an arsehole.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Clapton??

He may be an arsehole politically and in many other ways, now that I think of it, but his music still rocks.

[wet blanket]

I've always wanted to see someone make Fred Durst cry.

[1949]

TAD:

for comedy music download the full 18 and a half minutes of Arlo Guthries "Alices Restraunt" Fucking Classic.
I second that.

RZ:

Clapton??

He may be an arsehole politically
How? What has Clapton ever said that was political?

but his music still rocks.
Yeah, I was practically raised on Unplugged. That, and Fleetwood Mac's Rumours.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2004, 07:32 PM
RZ:

How? What has Clapton ever said that was political?
here (http://www.lnreview.co.uk/hi/music/000659.php)

And Unplugged is awesome!

So is Fleetwood Mac. Especially with Peter Green.

[Hate Is Art]

I dont mind Claptons music, hes just an arse, I like Cream and cociane but thats it. Ginger Baker owned,

Right on 1949, Arlo Guthrie is the funniest folk singer EVER, have you heard the motorcycle (signifigance of the pickle) song?

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2004, 07:26 PM
Tool is probably the coolest "political aware" music I have ever heard.
I'm not sure why you posted that under the topic of musical assholes and you really need to get out more if Tool is the most politically aware music you have ever heard.

And why are people mentioning Arlo Guthrie in this thread? This thread is for musical assholes.

[Floyd.]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 10:18 AM
I'm not sure why you posted that under the topic of musical assholes and you really need to get out more if Tool is the most politically aware music you have ever heard.

And why are people mentioning Arlo Guthrie in this thread? This thread is for musical assholes.
I second that. Apparently old Arlos da Woody was a bit of a jerk though. Musical Asshole number 1. Morrissey, what a self-indulgent git riding a wave of leftover vegetarian Smiths fans. Talk about shit music and a jerk. Lou Reed is a real arrogant cocky Asshole which is a letdown but fuck it.

This is a daft thread.

[DaCuBaN]

That's true...


Lou Reed is a real arrogant cocky Asshole which is a letdown

Indeed... if you ever saw the music video to his re-release of Satellite of Love, then you'd also know he's not the sharpest tool in the box :rolleyes:

[cubist]

lars ulrich (metallica yeah theyre great but he is a cappie asshole)
mcfly just assholes
casey chaos (amen) prick encouraged kids to cut themselves and generally displays himself as an asshole

chino moreno (deftones) no time for anyone who openly slags off nofx

[Capn An]

Johnny Rotten - For trying to keep the Sex Pistols alive, even though they were sellouts from the start.

Tim Armstrong - From punk rock idol to teenage hearthrob overnight.

Nick Leche(sp?) - For using his wife's popularity to stay in the spotlight

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by Capn [email protected] 30 2004, 09:25 PM
Johnny Rotten - For trying to keep the Sex Pistols alive, even though they were sellouts from the start.
How can you be a sell out from that start? Thats doesn't make any sense.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2004, 06:34 PM
how fuckin dare you
Sid vicious was a rapist smack head. Fuck him... not to mention that Rotton owned his scrawny ass.

[Raisa]

The executives who are responsible for marketing half of the garbage they play on the radio. It doesn't get there by itself!

[Capn An]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 09:44 PM
How can you be a sell out from that start? Thats doesn't make any sense.
Well, Sex Pistols, one of the 'epitome' of punk rock bands was formed by the record label EMI. Similar to the way the Spice Girls were put together. Owned and controlled by the label from the start they never had a chance to sellout because they already did.

[Capn An]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2004, 01:13 AM
"The interesting thing about Sid is that he did not really do much to shape Punk music, yet he remains one of its most enduring images. Sid really had the fashion image down, but he only actually plays on two songs on Never Mind the Bollocks. Sid is a classic example of style over substance. I was a sucker for his image. At age 15, one of the first stencils I ever made was Sid with the spiky hair, lock chain, and snarled lip Billy Idol copied. I guess the press really helped blow his image out of proportion... I look at Sid as less cool and more tragic these days, but he still sold more tee shirts than anyone else in Punk Rock. Sprite was wrong...image is everything!"
~ Shepard Fairey
I know exactly what you mean. I love Sid Vicious in all his non-talented stupidity. I know all about him so don't try and tell me he was a sellout or a racist or any shit like that, I already know.

I like him because I like to tell all the young 'punks' the true story of Sid Vicious and the Pistols.

[noland]

99.999999% of all modern rap is crap. Same with "R'n'B". Real R'n'B is Leadbelly, BB King, etc. NOT Beyonce.

Amen to that. Most people today look at "R&B artists" and think that they are for real. Unless you've been pickin' a bale of cotton or ridin' with the King you don't know shit about rhythm and blues. You have to know blues before you can be R&B.

[Hate Is Art]

amen to what he just amen'd!

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by Capn [email protected] 30 2004, 11:18 PM
Well, Sex Pistols, one of the 'epitome' of punk rock bands was formed by the record label EMI. Similar to the way the Spice Girls were put together.
errmm, no.

I don't think the Sex Pistols had song writters to write for them and mimed on stage.

Neither do I think you're in anyway cool becuase you're so untra-"hardcore."


Owned and controlled by the label from the start they never had a chance to sellout because they already did.
Interesting hypothesis, they weren't sell-out becuase they were sell-outs.

I think you've just proved my point.

[Capn An]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2004, 08:51 PM
errmm, no.

I don't think the Sex Pistols had song writters to write for them and mimed on stage.

Neither do I think you're in anyway cool becuase you're so untra-"hardcore."


Interesting hypothesis, they weren't sell-out becuase they were sell-outs.

I think you've just proved my point.
I never said they had their songs written for them. I said they were put together by a record label, which they were.

They sold out from their scene by being made by a record label.

How am I being ultra-hardcore? I like the Sex Pistols, I just find the history behind them humourous because so many kids think they are punk rock's finest creation.

No band will ever live to be a perfect punk band, it's a suicide mission. You start a punk band because you don't like the current music scene, you gather a small fanbase and they become your hardcore fans. After awhile more and more people get to know you, your original fanbase calls you sellouts and you've been chunked into the mainstream that you never wanted to be part of.

[1949]

99.999999% of all modern rap is crap.
99.999999% of all modern music is crap, period.


Owned and controlled by the label from the start they never had a chance to sellout because they already did.
Interesting hypothesis, they weren't sell-out becuase they were sell-outs.

I think you've just proved my point.
ROFL

[The Forum Idiot]

On the blues matter I've yet to actually hear BB King...But I don't act like I'm a blues expert - just I know what blues music is and what it isn't which is Beyonce.


On the Sex Pistols matter... Sid Vicious has, a lot like Che Guevara, been overused as a person. Pictures of him are used on anything as he's treated like a "martyr to punk", but that's where they're different. Che was a martyr. Johnny Rotten was the ideal smack head which loads of little pot smoking wannabe rebels wanna be when they grow up.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Originally posted by Capn [email protected] 30 2004, 09:25 PM
Johnny Rotten - For trying to keep the Sex Pistols alive, even though they were sellouts from the start.

Tim Armstrong - From punk rock idol to teenage hearthrob overnight.
wtf?

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by The Forum [email protected] 2 2004, 08:31 AM
On the blues matter I've yet to actually hear BB King...But I don't act like I'm a blues expert - just I know what blues music is and what it isn't which is Beyonce.


On the Sex Pistols matter... Sid Vicious has, a lot like Che Guevara, been overused as a person. Pictures of him are used on anything as he's treated like a "martyr to punk", but that's where they're different. Che was a martyr. Johnny Rotten was the ideal smack head which loads of little pot smoking wannabe rebels wanna be when they grow up.
You are speaking of Sid and Johnny interchangeably as if they were one person. And I could be wrong but I don't think Johnny was a smack head.

[Hampton]

Unless you've been pickin' a bale of cotton or ridin' with the King you don't know shit about rhythm and blues.

Ugh, and by the king you mean Robert Johnson right?

[The Forum Idiot]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 12:52 AM
You are speaking of Sid and Johnny interchangeably as if they were one person. And I could be wrong but I don't think Johnny was a smack head.
I meant sid vicious. Must not have been thinking...

also, in so far as assholes go we've all forgotten...err.....that one...Err....you know...that guy.

[Hate Is Art]

Pete Doc

[The Forum Idiot]

And....err....that other guy. Most rappers are assholes.