Communism

[Elly Darko]

Can someone please explain communism? I mean I understand the basic meaning, but please help me understand whats che's communism amd the communism that is going on in cuba, china* and what was going on in the former soviet union. Help ?


Elly Darko

[Subversive Pessimist]

Communism is a stateless society without money or classes. In a communist system, you work not because you have to, but because you want to, and everything that is made by the people, goes directly back to them, while in capitalism, the things the working class makes, goes to the capitalists.

According to Marxist theory, in order to go from capitalism to communism, a society has to go through a transitional stage called "the dictatorship of the proletariat", also called socialism. Marx thought fo this society as a democracy for the majority, while Lenin and Stalin thought of it as an actual dictatorship.

China is today a capitalist country. During Mao it was socialist. After Deng took power, China became a capitalist society.

After Stalin died, it became state capitalist. After the Soviet Union fell, it became capitalist.

Cuba, although tight restriction and regulation, has private business in the country, and is therefore state capitalist.

Did that make any sense? If you got any questions, don't be afraid to ask.

[Djehuti]

I think it dangerous to focuse to much on communism as some utopian society in the future, communism is foremost a movement here and now. Communism is the expression of the proletarians struggleing to cease being labour, communism is the everyday struggle against labour. Communism is first something that lies in my direct needs, here and know.

The Sovjet union turned capitalist long before Stalin died. The leninists "socialism" has really the same substance as capitalism, it is capitalism though it have another form.

[Essential Insignificance]

Sorry for getting childish, but some clarification is required here...I think.

The proletariats class struggle is not against their own productive means of existence, but against their labor-power that is put to work by the capitalist, for a previously agreed quantity of time, in exchange for an agreed sum of dispensable capital.

It's a struggle against the division of labor, not human productive power, itself.

[Palmares]

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