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comrade_mufasa
20th August 2004, 00:39
I love soccer and track and field sports and was thinking under communism what would happen to sports. Whould we still have the olympics. I know that if it were up to me athletes would not get paid millions for doing what they would do for free if they truly loved the game.
Urban Rubble
20th August 2004, 00:53
I don't think most Olypmic athletes make millions, I may be wrong though.
You can't say what would happen to sports under Communism as it has never existed. I don't see why sports would be much different. There is just no way of telling. I would like to think that it would be like any other job. They'd make a living just as every other person does. But who can really say ? Sports will never go away, but there is a possibility that there wouldn't be professional sports.
Essential Insignificance
20th August 2004, 01:04
Well, of course, recreational sports would survive a communist revolution; yet, the high "prestige" and "esteem", that sports people are lavished with toady, would ebb--the same would go for movie and television "stars".
Most people enjoy participating in same form of recreational sport, whether, it be chess or basketball. Others, however, find it more enjoyable to just watch.
As for the Olympics, that would be rendered (I think, and hope) one of those capitalist follies, which send country against country, in a effort to bring about higher patriotism and globe hate against other competing countries; separating man from there natural togetherness.
In a communist world, nevertheless, there would be no separate countries, in the sense that there is today. So people, I image, would be competing and representing themselves, rather then their (past) country of origin.
Urban Rubble
20th August 2004, 01:21
As for the Olympics, that would be rendered (I think, and hope) one of those capitalist follies, which send country against country, in a effort to bring about higher patriotism and globe hate against other competing countries; separating man from there natural togetherness.
I don't really think that's the point of the Olympics. Plus, it was around before Capitalism. I personally like the idea of the Olympics. Obviously I'm against the current Olympic organization, but I enjoy the idea of the best athletes from around the world coming together and competing. Obviously the more developed the nation the better (and more) athletes they will have, hopefully under Communism that wouldn't be a factor. I would love it if that still happened, even if nations were abolished you could still have the best from each region.
I really don't think it's an effort to make other countries hate each other. Are pro sports designed to make me hate different cities as well ?
Essential Insignificance
20th August 2004, 01:58
I don't really think that's the point of the Olympics. Plus, it was around before Capitalism.
Sure, but it was in a totally different historical context, much the same, if same form of the Olympics were to occur in a communist world.
The ruling classes have now seized the opportunity of the Olympics to further there deeper, veiled antagonism.
It wasn't until; I think 1892, where Baron Pierre de Cubertin, the "father of Modern Olympic Games", put forward the notion of the revitalization of the Olympic Games.
So the Modern Olympics are characteristic of the bourgeoisie.
I personally like the idea of the Olympics. Obviously I'm against the current Olympic organization, but I enjoy the idea of the best athletes from around the world coming together and competing.
I derive pleasure from watching the Olympic Games at time's as well. I would even say that those whom aren't usually fond of sports, take some interest in it, over the two or so weeks of competition.
I really don't think it's an effort to make other countries hate each other.
Perhaps not perceptibly or noticeably or even consciously, then again I think so; but the Olympics highlight and encourage the division betwixt people. One nation against another. The nations, collective, odium living through the competing athletes.
Are pro sports designed to make me hate different cities as well?
Not to hate, so much; but draw division, more then anything. And when division is drawn, people usually like to stick together, that's where the aversion stems from.
Subversive Pessimist
20th August 2004, 09:49
I love soccer and track and field sports and was thinking under communism what would happen to sports. Whould we still have the olympics. I know that if it were up to me athletes would not get paid millions for doing what they would do for free if they truly loved the game.
As I see it, there will still be sports, but it wouldn't be the same as today, where they are paid money or any other benefits for playing. It would be because it's fun, not because it's a job.
Hiero
20th August 2004, 10:05
Sporting stars in communism will still have that star attachment it cant be stoped that people love sport, but they have part time jobs like they did back in the day. The only reason why sport stars earn so much is mainly from sponsors, capitalist owned companies but under communism (pure marxist communism) the sporting grounds and leagues will a part of society. IN high stage of Socialism the state would own all leagues and entry to grounds would be free or cheap as chips.
(lol i said cheaps as chips damn i rule)
Misodoctakleidist
20th August 2004, 11:57
I hate the way people act as if the modern a olympics are some kind of continuation from the ancient Greek olympics, it's ridiculous.
comrade_mufasa
20th August 2004, 19:17
Originally posted by
[email protected] 20 2004, 06:57 AM
I hate the way people act as if the modern a olympics are some kind of continuation from the ancient Greek olympics, it's ridiculous.
I completely agree
Djehuti
20th August 2004, 19:19
Originally posted by
[email protected] 20 2004, 12:39 AM
I love soccer and track and field sports and was thinking under communism what would happen to sports. Whould we still have the olympics. I know that if it were up to me athletes would not get paid millions for doing what they would do for free if they truly loved the game.
I guess sports will be more of a fun play that everyone will take part in, then a competition to be the best. I dont think there will be as much elitism as today, everyone in every age can take part...but i dont think that the proffessional sports will disapear totaly, maybe it will increace, i dont know really.
refuse_resist
21st August 2004, 00:33
It's sad how serious sports are taken these days. They should be more about the fun of the game than who wins the most games or makes the most money.
As far as the Olympics go, they're nothing like how they used to be. These days, you can't go into some sports arena, or something similar without seeing corporate advertisements all over the place.
Essential Insignificance
21st August 2004, 10:31
Sporting stars in communism will still have that star attachment it cant be stoped that people love sport, but they have part time jobs like they did back in the day.
I apt to disagree with that; I think that all "sporting stars" will be striped of their "pseudo-superiority", that they have in contemporary day society.
Like you said, people will (it seems) perpetually enjoy sport, but not it's personalities.
T_SP
21st August 2004, 13:43
Everyone running neck and neck I imagine! :lol: No one would want to overtake anyone else!
Pawn Power
21st August 2004, 18:02
This was a letter written to CHALLENGE the PLP's newspaper (http://www.plp.org/2cdfight.html#Our%20newspaper%20Challenge-Desafío), it was the novemeber 5th 2003 issue
It mentions what sports would be like under communism in the last paragraph and I like it.
Pro Sports A Diversion?
My Friend: "Aren’t you excited about the upcoming baseball playoffs and World Series?"
Me: "Yes, a little bit, but there are a lot
more important things happening in the world."
But I must "confess," the first thing I did the following Saturday was to turn on the TV to watch the Giants-Marlins game. When you grow up playing baseball and other sports, you’re continually sucked in to watching them on TV and getting excited about a home run or the great catch.
I go to a gym and enjoy working out. I also enjoy talking sports and having political discussion with my friends. I get CHALLENGE out to a number of them.
Many of these workers think capitalism "with all its faults" is the only game in town. I raise the communist alternative. What would gym life be under communist equality? It would be free and accessible to all workers. We would not have professional sports with superstars like Barry Bonds or Lance Armstrong. We would have intramural games where all workers could participate, without all this competitive and dollar-driven nonsense. This would be a better world!
Sports Comrade
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