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imin
19th August 2004, 19:08
can someone please give me a really quick idiots guide to che? and him and the whole belief system behind it all? like a really short summary? im just not getting it all! thanks! cheers to you all

Subversive Pessimist
19th August 2004, 20:01
Welcome to the forum imin.

His name was Ernesto Rafael Guevara de la Serna, born June 14, 1928—October 9, 1967.


Che Guevara met Fidel Castro and his brother Raúl in Mexico City where the two sought refuge after being exiled from Cuba. The Castro brothers were preparing to return to Cuba with an expeditionary force in an attempt to overthrow the regime of Fulgencio Batista. Guevara quickly joined what became known as "the 26th of July Movement.

Castro, Guevara, and 80 other guerrillas departed from Tuxpan aboard the cabin cruiser Granma in November 1956. (The name was mostly likely a tribute to the grandmother of the previous owner, an American.) Guevara was the only non-Cuban aboard.

Shortly after disembarking in a swampy area near Niquero in the southeast, the expeditionary unit was attacked by Batista's forces. Only 12 rebels survived. Che, the group's physician, laid down his knapsack containing medical supplies in order to pick up a box of ammunition dropped by a fleeing comrade, a moment which he later recalled as marking his transition from doctor to combatant. [1] (http://www.patriagrande.net/cuba/ernesto.che.guevara/pasajes.de.la.guerra.revolucionaria.htm)

The rebels slowly gained in strength, seizing weapons and winning support and recruits from the local peasants in rural areas and intellectuals and workers in urban areas. Guevara exhibited great courage, skill in combat, and ruthlessness and soon became one of Castro's ablest and most trusted aides. Guevara took responsiblity for the execution of informers, insubordinates, deserters and spies in the revolutionary army. He personally executed Eutimio Guerra, a suspected Batista informant, with a single shot from his .32 pistol.

Within months, Guevara rose to the highest rank, Comandante (Major), in the revolutionary army. His march on Santa Clara, Cuba in late 1958, where his column derailed an armored train filled with Batista's troops and took over the city, was the final straw that forced Batista to flee the country. Che recorded the two years spent in overthrowing Batista's regime in a detailed account entitled Pasajes de la Guerra revolucionaria (English translation, Reminiscences of the Cuban Revolutionary War, 1968), first published in 1963.

Che talked about the new socialist man. He wanted to change humanity from something greedy and selfish, who would be altruistic. He wanted people to feel responsibility, not ownership. I guess that was Che's take on humanity. He was a communist.


Because he was a communist, I feel it is neccesary to give a basic understanding of communism. This is of course just the short version. Communism is a stateless society where everybody shares with each other, where there is no money, and people work because they want to help each other, not because of personal gains, and that was what Che fought for.

He despised the Soviet Union after Stalin died, and when the capitalists hiding behind a red banner took power, and Soviet accused him of being a "chinese", and a "trotskyite". He supported Mao, Lenin, Stalin, etc. and he was involved creating National Liberation Army. It still exists. I could be wrong though, but I think the National Liberation Army (ELN) exist in Bolivia and Colombia.

He was involved in the revolution in Cuba, and became one of the key figures in the Cuban revolution. After that, he went to Congo and served under a man called Kabila, who took power in May 17, 1997.

Kabila was curropt from the begginning and this is mentioned in the diaries of Che when he was in the Congo. Kabila did not fight with Che, he was the leader of all revolutionary forces in the Congo, but he spent his money in hotels, women and cavair. According to Che he visited the front just once. Che had done a mistake in having high hopes on him.

After escaping from Congo, Guevara, with 52 other men started a revolution in Bolivia. It went pretty good in the start, but they did not receive support from the population (I believe it was only 3 bolivians that served under Che during the whole revolution, which lasted a year), and the CIA, Green Berets and Rangers helped and trained the Bolivian Army.

On October 8, the encampment was encircled and Che was captured while
leading a patrol in the vicinity of La Higuera, Bolivia.

If you have any questions, go ahead an ask. :)

imin
21st August 2004, 17:52
just one more question! and thanks so much for making it simple for me! who captured Che, and did they kill him the very next day? thanks again for your help! cherio.

Subversive Pessimist
22nd August 2004, 08:28
I don't know much about what happened because I haven't studied it properly, but also because there are conflicting reports of what happened.

Here are some secret documents... Check out number four and five especially.
It's a bit long, but in my opinion very interesting. :)

1.

http://www.cuba-si.org/archiv/cia/che-ranger-batallion1.gif



2.

http://www.cuba-si.org/archiv/cia/che-ranger-batallion2.gif



3.

http://www.cuba-si.org/archiv/cia/che-ranger-batallion3.gif



4.

http://www.cuba-si.org/archiv/cia/che-ranger-batallion4.gif



5.

http://www.cuba-si.org/archiv/cia/che-ranger-batallion5.gif


6.


http://www.cuba-si.org/archiv/cia/che-ranger-batallion6.gif

Leninist thug
22nd August 2004, 15:51
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 07:08 PM
can someone please give me a really quick idiots guide to che? and him and the whole belief system behind it all? like a really short summary? im just not getting it all! thanks! cheers to you all
http://www.time.com/time/time100/heroes/pr.../guevara01.html (http://www.time.com/time/time100/heroes/profile/guevara01.html)