LeninistaRevolucionario
19th August 2004, 15:12
Let me explain you the procediments of this referendum:
This referendum was made with computer machines, each electoral building had 3 tables (mesas):
Table number #1: for the people whose ID number started at 01 and ended at 33.
Table #2: from 34 to 66.
Table #3: from 67 to 99.
Each table had 3 books (each book had 1 machine to vote):
-Book #1: for people whose ID number started on 01 and ended on 11.
-Book #2: from 12 to 22.
-Book #3: from 23 to 33.
And the question was:
"Do you want to revocate Chavez" (the real question was longer im just resuming it)
1) No (Pro Chavez) 2) Yes (against Chavez)
Then you had to click the screen for the option you wanted.
After you click in that option whether its YES or NO, a paper would come out of the machine with the confirmation of your choose, then you have to introduce that paper in a box. (many people complained that after they voted YES, the paper would come out as a NO)
The machine would then send the information that X number of voters chose NO and X number of voters chose YES.
This information was recopiled in a paper called "ACTA" (dont know the word in english) with the results.
Ok everything there so far is fine, no problem thats the procediment of the election, now below im gonna explain you how the fraud was commited.
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The fraud was commited in the machine´s SOFTWARE which was manipulated by Chavez this way:
In many electoral buildings it was reported that the books of each Tables (mesas) there was a strange coincidence that the option YES had a limit:
For example:
Table #1:
-Book #1: Had 440 electors.
In the machine of this Book:
320 people voted for NO and 120 voted for YES
Ok fine, but i dont see any fraud here, you would say...
-Book #2: Had 530 electors.
In the machine of this Book:
410 people voted for NO and 120 voted for YES (coincidence? probably)
Once again the YES option in this machine had 120, coincidence? maybe...
-Book #3: Had 250 electors.
In the machine of this Book:
130 people voted for NO and (guess what) 120 voted for YES.
What a coincidence that in the three machines of this Table the option YES ended up at 120. The probabilities for this to happen in each of the three machines of this Table is very low, but who knows coincidences happens.
Table #2:
Book #1: From 510 electors, the option NO had 400 and the option YES had 110.
Book #2: From 425 electors, the option NO had 315 and the option YES had 110
Book #3: From 476 electors, the option NO had 366 and the option YES had 110.
Table #3:
Similar thing happened here. The option YES had 108 in the three machines and the rest were NO.
The results from each Table would be registered in the "ACTAS" (where the results from the machines were recopiled)
These similar patter was reported in many election buildings in many states.
So how can this happen? you would ask.
Easily, the Software of EACH machine was manipulated so that the option YES would have a limit, so every time the option YES reached its limit, the next people who voted YES, the machine would either change the vote to NO or nule it.
Then why dont you count the confirmation papers that were introduced in the boxes? you would ask.
This only happened in like 100 Tables out of 20.000, the government knew the international observers were going to count them in these 100 Tables so he didnt mess with these. Note that the fraud didnt happen in the 100% of the machines, but i would dare to say that in most of them.
But why arent all the boxes from all the 20.000 Tables counted vote by vote?
Because the CNE (Consejo Nacional Electoral, the ones who take of the election) have 5 members, 3 of them are puppets of Chavez, so basically this is controlled by Chavez too, and they are refusing to allow the opposition and other observers to count the boxes.
Where are these boxes with the real votes?
These boxes are in custody of Pro-Chavez Elitist Generals (who btw are getting rich with the money they are stealing from the Venezuelan people) and they dont want to let them be counted, the worst thing is that these elitist Generals are actually getting rid of the papers in the boxes.
Then why did the Carter Organization and the Organization of American States (OAE) approved the referendum results?
Because they only received the "ACTAS" (see above for the meaning of it) with the already fraudulent results. So they basically received the results from the fraudulent machines. They didnt actually checked 99% of the boxes nor the 99% of the machines, they just received the fraudulent "ACTAS" and they just approved Chavez victory.
Why would these Organizations approve the results without having a completely research on the election?
In the case of the OAE, rumors have been spread that it seems that they have received orders from Washington to accept Chavez victory without a real investigation because many oil transnationals have already contracts and trade business with Chavez and also they dont want an unstable Venezuela because if Chavez losses, his represive militias and Bolivarian Circles (who btw betrayed the cause by defending the wealthy elite leadership who dont want Chavez to leave because they are getting rich while the population gets more poor thanks to Chavez) would start sabotaging and creating havok and unstability. If this happens the Oil prices would get higher than they are right now because of Bush pathetic and imperialist war on Iraq. Also many Latin American countries are getting cheap Oil from Chavez (and instead of investing the income he receives from the oil revenues in jobs and food for the people, instead he spends it in wearing expensive clothes, rebuilding the presidential palace, building expensive private jets, yatchs, etc), so both the USA and Latin American countries want Chavez to stay as long and he provides cheap Oil. Socialist cause? who cares about it when the ones with power are getting rich at the cost of the suffering of the Venezuelan people.
In other words, economic interests from both USA and the Latin American countries want Chavez to stay.
Why did i vote against Chavez being a Leninist?
Because Chavez betrayed the cause, he and his elite instead of helping the workers they exploit them, instead of providing food he and his elite put expensive prices and taxes making it difficult for the common people to feed themselves adecuately, instead of nationalizing the oil industry he and his elite are selling it to american oil industries and making deals with Bush and the imperialists to provide cheap and secure oil supplies to them so the warmonger can keep his immoral war on iraq killing children and innocent people. Because Bush knows that the middle east is unstable (thanks to his criminal war) and the oil prices are high, so he needs Chavez´s oil. Chavez instead of refusing to help Bush by providing him oil for his criminal war, instead he chooses to make juicy deals with chevron, texaco, shell, etc.
This is why i voted against Chavez, many revolutionary groups and movements have also opposed him because he has betrayed us. I know that the opposition leaders, are corrupts and immoral too, but Chavez doesnt care about the people, all he cares about is his wallet and his expensive clothes.
Maybe you are asking yourselves why would i vote against chavez and in favor of the opposition?
Sometimes we have to join a lesser devil to destroy a greater devil, for example when the Soviets joined the Americans and British to fight against the facists.
Chavez is a hypocrite and a bastard who wants to control all and exploit the workers and the people. Chavez´s arrival to power was just a change of one wealthy elite for another.
also check this link: http://www.iht.com/articles/534518.html
This referendum was made with computer machines, each electoral building had 3 tables (mesas):
Table number #1: for the people whose ID number started at 01 and ended at 33.
Table #2: from 34 to 66.
Table #3: from 67 to 99.
Each table had 3 books (each book had 1 machine to vote):
-Book #1: for people whose ID number started on 01 and ended on 11.
-Book #2: from 12 to 22.
-Book #3: from 23 to 33.
And the question was:
"Do you want to revocate Chavez" (the real question was longer im just resuming it)
1) No (Pro Chavez) 2) Yes (against Chavez)
Then you had to click the screen for the option you wanted.
After you click in that option whether its YES or NO, a paper would come out of the machine with the confirmation of your choose, then you have to introduce that paper in a box. (many people complained that after they voted YES, the paper would come out as a NO)
The machine would then send the information that X number of voters chose NO and X number of voters chose YES.
This information was recopiled in a paper called "ACTA" (dont know the word in english) with the results.
Ok everything there so far is fine, no problem thats the procediment of the election, now below im gonna explain you how the fraud was commited.
------------------------------------------
The fraud was commited in the machine´s SOFTWARE which was manipulated by Chavez this way:
In many electoral buildings it was reported that the books of each Tables (mesas) there was a strange coincidence that the option YES had a limit:
For example:
Table #1:
-Book #1: Had 440 electors.
In the machine of this Book:
320 people voted for NO and 120 voted for YES
Ok fine, but i dont see any fraud here, you would say...
-Book #2: Had 530 electors.
In the machine of this Book:
410 people voted for NO and 120 voted for YES (coincidence? probably)
Once again the YES option in this machine had 120, coincidence? maybe...
-Book #3: Had 250 electors.
In the machine of this Book:
130 people voted for NO and (guess what) 120 voted for YES.
What a coincidence that in the three machines of this Table the option YES ended up at 120. The probabilities for this to happen in each of the three machines of this Table is very low, but who knows coincidences happens.
Table #2:
Book #1: From 510 electors, the option NO had 400 and the option YES had 110.
Book #2: From 425 electors, the option NO had 315 and the option YES had 110
Book #3: From 476 electors, the option NO had 366 and the option YES had 110.
Table #3:
Similar thing happened here. The option YES had 108 in the three machines and the rest were NO.
The results from each Table would be registered in the "ACTAS" (where the results from the machines were recopiled)
These similar patter was reported in many election buildings in many states.
So how can this happen? you would ask.
Easily, the Software of EACH machine was manipulated so that the option YES would have a limit, so every time the option YES reached its limit, the next people who voted YES, the machine would either change the vote to NO or nule it.
Then why dont you count the confirmation papers that were introduced in the boxes? you would ask.
This only happened in like 100 Tables out of 20.000, the government knew the international observers were going to count them in these 100 Tables so he didnt mess with these. Note that the fraud didnt happen in the 100% of the machines, but i would dare to say that in most of them.
But why arent all the boxes from all the 20.000 Tables counted vote by vote?
Because the CNE (Consejo Nacional Electoral, the ones who take of the election) have 5 members, 3 of them are puppets of Chavez, so basically this is controlled by Chavez too, and they are refusing to allow the opposition and other observers to count the boxes.
Where are these boxes with the real votes?
These boxes are in custody of Pro-Chavez Elitist Generals (who btw are getting rich with the money they are stealing from the Venezuelan people) and they dont want to let them be counted, the worst thing is that these elitist Generals are actually getting rid of the papers in the boxes.
Then why did the Carter Organization and the Organization of American States (OAE) approved the referendum results?
Because they only received the "ACTAS" (see above for the meaning of it) with the already fraudulent results. So they basically received the results from the fraudulent machines. They didnt actually checked 99% of the boxes nor the 99% of the machines, they just received the fraudulent "ACTAS" and they just approved Chavez victory.
Why would these Organizations approve the results without having a completely research on the election?
In the case of the OAE, rumors have been spread that it seems that they have received orders from Washington to accept Chavez victory without a real investigation because many oil transnationals have already contracts and trade business with Chavez and also they dont want an unstable Venezuela because if Chavez losses, his represive militias and Bolivarian Circles (who btw betrayed the cause by defending the wealthy elite leadership who dont want Chavez to leave because they are getting rich while the population gets more poor thanks to Chavez) would start sabotaging and creating havok and unstability. If this happens the Oil prices would get higher than they are right now because of Bush pathetic and imperialist war on Iraq. Also many Latin American countries are getting cheap Oil from Chavez (and instead of investing the income he receives from the oil revenues in jobs and food for the people, instead he spends it in wearing expensive clothes, rebuilding the presidential palace, building expensive private jets, yatchs, etc), so both the USA and Latin American countries want Chavez to stay as long and he provides cheap Oil. Socialist cause? who cares about it when the ones with power are getting rich at the cost of the suffering of the Venezuelan people.
In other words, economic interests from both USA and the Latin American countries want Chavez to stay.
Why did i vote against Chavez being a Leninist?
Because Chavez betrayed the cause, he and his elite instead of helping the workers they exploit them, instead of providing food he and his elite put expensive prices and taxes making it difficult for the common people to feed themselves adecuately, instead of nationalizing the oil industry he and his elite are selling it to american oil industries and making deals with Bush and the imperialists to provide cheap and secure oil supplies to them so the warmonger can keep his immoral war on iraq killing children and innocent people. Because Bush knows that the middle east is unstable (thanks to his criminal war) and the oil prices are high, so he needs Chavez´s oil. Chavez instead of refusing to help Bush by providing him oil for his criminal war, instead he chooses to make juicy deals with chevron, texaco, shell, etc.
This is why i voted against Chavez, many revolutionary groups and movements have also opposed him because he has betrayed us. I know that the opposition leaders, are corrupts and immoral too, but Chavez doesnt care about the people, all he cares about is his wallet and his expensive clothes.
Maybe you are asking yourselves why would i vote against chavez and in favor of the opposition?
Sometimes we have to join a lesser devil to destroy a greater devil, for example when the Soviets joined the Americans and British to fight against the facists.
Chavez is a hypocrite and a bastard who wants to control all and exploit the workers and the people. Chavez´s arrival to power was just a change of one wealthy elite for another.
also check this link: http://www.iht.com/articles/534518.html