Granny mugged for fish and chips...Death Penalty in Britian?

[mcleodstickle]

I was watching the news earlier and there was a "discussion" bout a 71 year old women who died after being mugged for her fish and chips. The disscusion was about her muggers, and the penalty they should recieve.

However, the guy, MARTYN LOW, quickly changed it into a "discussion" about the death Penalty being re-introduced into Britain. During this, he told us that if the death penalty was re-introduced, then it would stop people from doing street-crime altogether, including, "petty shoplifting, by school kids". He then went on to say that it should not only be used as a punishment for killing people, but also for littler things such as the "petty shoplifting",

Now, im sorry , but that is ridiculous, and i refuse to believe that they actually let this man on every day to "discuss" topics like this.

He also sed:
-that prisons were a joke in Britian and were not tough enough on inmates
-children should be "taught" in school NOT to use violence as a solution (what is it they do now? give us lessons in how to beat up old women?)
and various other ridiculous points

Although this aint on the same topic, a couple of days ago, i watched him while he told people that the queen should not have to pay any kind of tax, nevermind inheritance tax, because if we took away all her money, then she would just be the same as "ordinary" people, and could be pushed around by the government.

This guy aint rite? am i wrong?

Lauren

(Edited by mcleodstickle at 11:40 pm on May 6, 2002)

[Fires of History]

Lauren,

You're right. The idea that tougher sentences and penalties prevents crime is wrong. Why people think that criminals think about the penalties is beyong me.

If someone is desperate enough to mug someone for fish and chips, you have to wonder why. I love how the conversation is about how to punish the mugger instead of changing the system that drove someone into such sad desperation.

And, no, there is no amount of 'education' that will stop crime.

[I Will Deny You]

The death penalty has not been proven to reduce crime rates. I suppose if it were used as a deterrent against shoplifting it would scare the living crap out of schoolkids, but then again, why not use torture on people with speeding tickets? Because the punishment should fit the crime. This guy sounds like a total wacko.

The queen should be treated the same way as everyone else. What purpose does she serve? There are more important things to do than knighting Elton John.

[guerrillaradio]

I agree. Killing a kid for nicking sweets?? :o Silly, silly people...surely common sense has to prevail somewhere.

Although that story about the granny and the fish n chips is very depressing, I freely admit.

[mcleodstickle]

Yea, i think it is very depressing too, i mean they KILLED her for them.

that guy seriously aint with it, he gets worse and worse by the day.

Lauren

[Fatos Locos]

Damn, what is it with the world today, in holland they kill people for their political ideas, in britain they kill granny's for fish and chips and they even want to give the death penalty for stealing candy. Damn..... And I'm not talking about the killing in the middle-east yet....... This world is getting sicker all the time.

[Al Fidai]

i would be for the dearh penalty for murderer and rapist if the legal system wasnt so corrupt,now they can acuse you of anything a snuff you out,if they think your a threat. death penalty for the poor,uthenasia for the sick,obortation for the undesirables,sounds lik the nazis

[guerrillaradio]

OK, hang on, you're pro-death penalty but anti-abortion??

[Fatos Locos]

Mmmmmm, pro-death and anti-abortion, that's strange......

In my opinion, death penalty can only be done under certain cases and when the system isn't corrupt. Abortion on the other hand, and uthenasia, I think is the decission of the person in question, if he/she ahs too much pain or got the pregnant because she was raped I think that it is very reasenable to do abrtion/uthenasia in that cases, but when somebody get's pregnant because she wants it's and after 3 weeks she decides she doesn't want a baby, I think she may not get abortion becuz of the reason, she had to think before getting pregnant and the same goes for uthanasia, if you just want to get uthanasia cuz you girlfriend broke up with you, that isn't a good reason. But the difficultie with that is is to decide what is a good reason and what isn't. So if in a country there is abortion, uthanasia and death penalty I think that is possible when it has good rules about it.

[Fabi]

as i already said somewhere else: it is beyond me, how you can claim to be PRO-life, but at the same time be PRO capital punishment...

it is a strange world....