The biggest demo in the history of Venezuela

[Kez]

http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/caracas_august_8.html

[h&s]

Now that is what I like to see - much better than those borgeoise 'strikes.'
http://www.marxist.com/images/venez_aug_4.jpg
Thanks for the info.

[Kez]

i write these posts not just for information comrades, but i also stress the urgency in that we should all get up and intervene in solidarity with the Venezuelan workers and peasants

www.handsoffvenezuela.org

workers of the world unite!

[Intifada]

A truly brilliant sight.

[h&s]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 12:08 PM
i write these posts not just for information comrades, but i also stress the urgency in that we should all get up and intervene in solidarity with the Venezuelan workers and peasants


Of course, that goes without saying.

[Kez]

what do you mean by "bourgeoise strikes"?
the bosses lockout?

[h&s]

Yeah. This demo just shows the world the truth that the venezuelans like their government, unlike 'strike' that was, as you say, a bosses lock-out.

[Louis Pio]

It seems the opposition think they can make a bigger demo :rolleyes:
I saw it on vheadline today in their email edition, it shows how dillusional the "opposition" (the true word to describe them is reaction) is :D

[fernando]

Im curious if the "normal western" news sources have reported this too, I mean about this demonstration...or are they not talking about this, in order to try to show the people here that the people in Venezuela "want" the opposition...

[Citizen X]

Fernando,

No, the West is largely ignoring all of this. After the coup, such "liberal" papers as the New York Times and the Washington Post both praised it, as did the Bush administration, but that's no surprise. I know someone in Germany who said that the news talked a little about it and called Chavez a "dictator," which is how he was presented in the USA as well.

The NED is financing the destruction of democracy while our "leaders" are on the campaign trail talking about bringing freedom to the world. That's some kind of freedom they have in mind--the freedom to do what the ruling elite tells them to do.

[Fidelbrand]

No one can divide this "red sea" of Venezuelans~

http://www.marxist.com/images/venez_aug_3.jpg

[Shane]

Forwards To Victory!

[il Commie]

I wonder - what are the relations between Chavez and Castro?

[CubanFox]

Originally posted by il [email protected] 14 2004, 07:40 AM
I wonder - what are the relations between Chavez and Castro?
Very good; Chávez and Fidel are good friends. Cuba receives 53,000 barrels of Venezuelan oil daily in exchange for all the doctors and teachers that Fidel has sent over.

[colombiano]

Well the time is now. No matter who wins blood will be spilt . One side will make accusations against the other that the elections were fixed.

[h&s]

OK, now I'm pissed off. I was watching the 10'o'clock news on the Beeb last night when an article came up on Venezuala. The ***** who presented it focussed on a middle-class rally celebrating the fact that their petition had succeeded in calling a referendum. Not once in the whole 8 minute article did she mention the fact that dead people had signed this. She was presenting this demo as what the country wanted, despite the fact that you could see the limits of where the people were - it was not exactly people as far as the eye could see. Not once did she mention the communist demo in support of the government, and the fact that it was the biggest ever demo in the history of Venezuala.
She concentrated on the economic aspects of the 'regime,' saying how the economy had 'collapsed' under Chavez, and that he had 'seriously mismanaged the oil fields.'
She used his contempt for George Bu$h as a bad point, giving an example of one of his speeches with him saying, "we are not going to become a U$ oil colony again," as a very bad thing. She highlighted his friendship with Casto as wrong, and she portrayed him as a power-hungry dictator who 'doesn't care about his people.'
Towards the end she went a favela to show how much the poor like Chavez, but she picked a shot of a favela that made it look as small and insignificant as possible. She didn't interview any poor people, just made them stare at the camera as if their views didn't count at all. In contrast, she interviewed as many oil analysts and middle-class as she could manage.
She even had the cheek to say that the 'general strike' had crippled the economy.
No wonder I knew nothing about Venzuala before I came to C-L.

I know the BBC has dumbed down since Hutton, but this was rediculous.
(sorry for the rant, but I'm in a bit of a bad mood at the moment)

[Dr. Captial]

If they really want to end up like Castros Cuba - I say let them eat the dirt and go without telephone service. We should encourage them not to - but that shouldn't include bothersome military presense. After all we should be "sensitive" now right?

[colombiano]

ok, fellows my wife argues the same thing about the middle class and how Chavez has ruined the economy. I have stated that I do not know enough about the situation to give any sort of bias other than I am for Social reform. I need serious ammo comrades to back up the arguement for Chavez to stay in office. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks! :ph34r:

[DaCuBaN]

How about a simple matter of mathematics: Democracy means rule by the people, and the majority of the people voted him in. There would only be an argument for the middle classes if he had subverted the election, of which there is no appreciable evidence.

Anyway, given that democracy by the modern definition is really rule by majority and the middle classes do not make up the majority there is frankly no argument in their defense

It's called 'sour grapes'