What Is A Terrorist?

[Fires of History]

What Is A Terrorist?

ter·ror·ist (ter'er-ist) noun.

1. One who engages in acts or an act of terrorism.

2. One who leads an armed group that kills civilians as a means of political intimidation- unless he terrorizes Haitians while on the CIA-payroll, as did 1990s death squad leader Emmanuel Constant, in which case the U.S. refuses to extradite him to Haiti, even after Sept. 11, 2001.

3. One who targets civilian airliners and ships- unless he blows up a Cuban civilian airliner, killing 73 people, and fires at a Polish freighter, like Orlando Bosch, in which case he is coddled and paroled by the Bush Justice Department in 1990, and his extradition is blocked.

4. One who leads a group that engages in kidnapping and murder- unless the victims are Hondurans attacked by CIA-backed death squad Battalion 316, in which case Battalion architect Gustavo Alvarez becomes a Pentagon consultant, while the then-ambassador to Honduras who downplayed the terror, John Negroponte, is appointed U.S. ambassador to the United Nations days after Sept. 11.

5. One who uses rape and murder for political purposes- unless the victims are four U.S. church women sexually assaulted and killed in 1980 by members of El Salvador’s U.S.-backed military, in which case excuses and distortions pour forth from then-U.N. Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick (“these nuns were not just nuns; they were also political activists”) and Secretary of State Al Haig (the nuns “may have tried to run a roadblock”).

6. One who designates civilians as “soft targets” to be attacked in the cause of political transformation- unless the targets are Nicaraguans killed by Contra guerrillas armed and directed by the U.S who, according to Human Rights Watch, “systematically engage in violent abuses…so prevalent that these may be said to be their principal means of waging war.”

7. One who facilitates a massacre of civilians- unless the victims are 900 Palestinians shot and hacked to death in the Sabra and Shatila camps by Lebanese Christian militia as Israeli soldiers stood guard, in which case Israel’s then-Defense Minster (now Prime Minister) Ariel Sharon remains a U.S. “War on Terrorism” ally after being censured as indirectly responsible for the massacre by an Israeli commission of inquiry.

Courtesy of Common Dreams Newscenter (http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0501-02.htm)

[FtWfTn]

ummmmmmm.............o.....k

[James]

The word terrorism is bullshit now the ameri****s have used it against all their enemies. It wore off on israel too.

Stupid americans...this is what happens when you try to re-write the dictonary.

Should we bomb america and claim that we did it because they are terrorists and we have god on our side?

[Dhul Fiqar]

The popular definiton among the We$tern nations is that a terrorist is a soldier in an army without a recognised state. Therefore anything violent done by the recognised club of nations is military action, anything violent done by individuals or non-governmental organizations is terrorism.
It's been stretched quite a bit, of course, but that's the most common use of the term in the media.

--- G. Raven

[Vladimir]

Welcome to the United States Of Terrorism!

[flames of the flag]

oxford dictionarry of politics:
terrorism:
term with no agreed definition.

therfore it's not worth using unless you won't to talk without saying anything in particular

[STALINSOLDIERS]

very good... i think the word terrorism cam during the 60's im not sure but i know it was usa that made up the word... how about terrorism that usa did in vietnam and dont forget japan with the hiroshima bomb.

[deadpool 52]

Here is some advice for you,
whenever you hear the U$ calling their enemies names, it is just the opposite of what is true, most of the time that it.

[Sasafrás]

Quote: from James on 11:10 am on May 2, 2002
The word terrorism is bullshit now the ameri****s have used it against all their enemies... Stupid americans...this is what happens when you try to re-write the dictonary.Jesus Christ! I hate it when you do that!

[Fires of History]

Deadpool,

Yep, that's the general guideline I follow :)

The U$ is very good at terrorism. Rarely does an actual amerikkkan 'pull the trigger.' It's a lot easier if others kill and terrorize with amerikkkan support, money, and weapons. Amerikkkan interference and intervention around the globe is going to haunt them for years to come.

[El Che]

As Chomsky says, terrorism is not the weapon of the weak its the weapon of the strong. Only when the strong use it they dont call it terrorism, the call it conter-terrorism. By means of propaganda, war mongering and braind washing they legitimise thier terrorism to their own populations. So in this distroted light, what russia does in chetchenia, what the US does and did in various places, what indonesia did in east timor, what nato did in kosovo and yugoslavia, etc... Is not considered terrorism. But when the weak, or the oppressed, or simply the fanatic strike back then it is terrorism. This is kind of like double-thinking, but dispite its sureality it is what goes on. The first thing that is need is to define terrorism(of course the US and others opose this because it would raise numerous problems that I will not mention for the sake of brevity), the second thing that is needed is an end to unilateralism and only then, when the same rules apply to both strong and weak, and when nations are no longer allowed to do as they please, in the name of fighting terrorism, but rather are subordinated to international institutions and courts of law, will we hopefully get anywhere near putting an end to terrorism.

[guerrillaradio]

"The Intelligence Community is guided by the definition of terrorism contained in Title 22 of the US Code, Section 2656f(d):

—The term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.

—The term “international terrorism” means terrorism involving the territory or the citizens of more than one country.

—The term “terrorist group” means any group that practices, or has significant subgroups that practice, international terrorism."

http://www.cia.gov/terrorism/faqs.html

I think we should at the word's structure itself: TERRORism. That implies that all one has to do is to inflict fear and terror upon people. A very loose definition methinks...

[Acolombian]

"Fires of History"

I've read quite a few of your comments. You are so full of shit, it is not even funny anymore.

[El Che]

Acolumbian didn`t ur mother teach you any manners?

[Acolombian]

El Che:

Yes she did, but she also taught me to defend myself. I posted a couple of my viewpoints this morning and I've had already a ton of insults back. So why don't you give these manners lecture to everybody else on this forum who constantly uses faul language? Are socialists the only ones allowed to insult people around here?

[CheGuevara]

We don't want your viewpoints. Period.

[El Brujo]

Hmmmm. I think quite a bit of BANNING is to be done in this forum.

[Fires of History]

If a capie and AUC supporter is attacking me and calling me "full of shit" then that's where I want to be :) :) :)

[vox]

FoH,

Nope, I'm sorry, but the stellar logic and subtle persuasion of Acolombian's post has convinced me. I won't be reading your posts anymore. I just thank the Lord that you didn't warp my mind with your messy and inconvenient facts and that a decent, right-thinking person was here to intervene. Otherwise, who knows, I might have questioned the wisdom of the ruling elite, and let's face it, they're the real victims here, what with the masses wanting a say in how things are run. Can you imagine?!?!?! What nerve those masses have!

vox

[guerrillaradio]

Quote: from Acolombian on 11:24 pm on May 3, 2002
Are socialists the only ones allowed to insult people around here?


In short, yes.

[Maaja]

Maybe a terrorist is somebody who doesn't agree with the U$ governement? (the new definition)

I'll go soon to a country that is in the evil list (or what it was) of U$, then I'll see what terrorists really are!

[I Will Deny You]

Alright, here's what I think of a terrorist. I know it's not perfect, and I hope that you'll all feel free to criticize my definition as long as you're not an asshole about it (I'm looking at you, Acolombian). Here goes:

A terrorist can be part of an army, or not. They can represent a nation, but that's not essential. A terrorist is someone who uses militant tactics, but not because their aim is a military victory. A terrorist kills civilians to scare them, horrify them or piss them off. Their tactics are not used for change, they're used for pissing people off.

[kingbee]

wots the diff between terrorism and state terrorism? (palestine v israel)
if the israelis say that the palenstinians are terrorists they should have a good fuckin look at themsleves

[wildflower8]

EL CHE: I love Noam Chomsky!! Howard Zinn and Micheal Moore are good too, if you haven't read anything by them I highly suggest you do!
I think the US invented the term to scare people. Of course they scare only the ignorance cattle of the US, which unfortunately are the greater majority of the country. Then they have some basis to say that it's ok to listen to telephone conversations and interrogate people because they "look like a terrorist."n In this way they not only control and monopolize the rest of the world, but also their own people. It makes me sick! To get a complete definition of what it means to be a terrorist I suggest you look at the US government. Embargoes should also be part of the definition (I Will Deny You)

[James]

Quote: from La Rainbeaux on 12:29 am on May 3, 2002

Quote: from James on 11:10 am on May 2, 2002
The word terrorism is bullshit now the ameri****s have used it against all their enemies... Stupid americans...this is what happens when you try to re-write the dictonary.Jesus Christ! I hate it when you do that!


Sorry, i was rather careless that day. I'm sorry to anyone that got offended. I should have said something along the lines of "stupid ameri**** bush, this is what happens when you try to rewrite the dictonary"

I'll say again...SORRY (its not sarcasim btw)



Edit : spelling error correction

(Edited by James at 9:56 pm on May 5, 2002)