Rock Against Bush

[Lefty]

I got this the other day- it's a compilation of bands that want to vote bush out...it's pretty cool. The liner notes include "20 reasons to hate bush" and stuff... anyway, the proceeds go towards getting Bush out of office, so it's all good.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Checked it out on amazon.com and there are lots of terribly shitty tracks by some pretty shitty pop-punk bands, like sum 41.

[noland]

anyway, the proceeds go towards getting Bush out of office, so it's all good.
Somebody explain to me how money from kids buying CDs can get an elected official out of office. What are they going to do, pay people to vote for Kerry?

[guerrillaradio]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2004, 09:38 PM
What are they going to do, pay people to vote for Kerry?
Well this is American democracy we're discussing here. It worked for Bush.

[Guerrilla22]

What's the content of the music, is it old stuff, or generic stuff, or is it revelevent to the theme of getting Bush out of office?

[wet blanket]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 12:54 AM
What's the content of the music, is it old stuff, or generic stuff, or is it revelevent to the theme of getting Bush out of office?
It's garbage.

STICK IT TO THE MAN AND BUY OUR SHIT.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I got this from amazon.com
I assume this is the album Lefty was referring to.

1. Nothing To Do When You're Locked Away In A Vacancy - None More Black Listen Listen
2. Moron - Sum 41 Listen Listen
3. Warbrain - Alkaline Trio Listen Listen
4. Need More Time - Epoxies Listen Listen
5. The School Of Assassins - Anti-Flag Listen Listen
6. Sink, Florida, Sink (Electric) - Against Me!
7. Baghdad - The Offspring
8. Lion and the Lamb - The Get Up Kids
9. Give It All - Rise Against
10. No W - Ministry
11. Sad State of Affairs - Descendents
12. Revolution - Authority Zero
13. Paranoia! Cha-Cha-Cha - The Soviettes
14. That's Progress - Jello Biafra with D.O.A.
15. Overcome (The Recapitulation) - RX Bandits
16. No Voice of Mine - Strung Out
17. To the World - Strike Anywhere
18. Heaven is Falling - The Ataris
19. God Save The USA - Pennywise
20. Normal Days - Denali
21. The Expatriate Act - The World/Inferno Friendship Society
22. No News is Good News - New Found Glory
23. Basket of Snakes - The Frisk
24. Jaw, Knee, Music - NOFX
25. It's the Law - Social Distortion
26. The Brightest Bulb Has Burned Out - Less Than Jake with Billy Bragg

[rahul]

really?
where can i find more information abot this ROCK?

[Urban Rubble]

Checked it out on amazon.com and there are lots of terribly shitty tracks by some pretty shitty pop-punk bands, like sum 41.

ONE shitty pop punk band, and that's all you had to comment on ?


Somebody explain to me how money from kids buying CDs can get an elected official out of office. What are they going to do, pay people to vote for Kerry?

Well, it's a good way to get kids politically active/aware. They see they're favorite bands doing something, and like the sheep they are they follow. Nothing wrong with that. These bands ARE making a difference.


What's the content of the music, is it old stuff, or generic stuff, or is it revelevent to the theme of getting Bush out of office?

It's mostly new stuff. The Rise Against song on there is from their new album, great song. Against Me! has an electric version of one of their old songs.


It's garbage.

STICK IT TO THE MAN AND BUY OUR SHIT.

You're a fucking idiot.

The thing costed 5 dollars, hardly a huge money making scheme. What, should they give it away for free ? They're profiting like a buck per CD, and giving the profits to charity.

[Guerrilla22]

Its got some good bands on it: NOFX, Anti-Flag, Pennywise and Rise Against kick ass, on top of that, the thing only cost five bucks!

[Pawn Power]

I like Anti-Flag andThe World/Inferno Friendship Society

New Found Glory is just an awful band all around, never thought I would see them on the same cd as The World/Inferno Friendship Society
Nothing really great on the cd though, I wouldent buy it, might burn some of the songs though

[wet blanket]

You're a fucking idiot.

The thing costed 5 dollars, hardly a huge money making scheme. What, should they give it away for free ? They're profiting like a buck per CD, and giving the profits to charity.

I don't normally do this, but since you had the gall to call me a 'fucking idiot'... You used the wrong tense up there, buddy. It costs 5 dollars, as it is still for sale at said price. Douche. :P

You mentioned that they were making a profit of a dollar per CD, and that their profits were going to charity? I don't think helping fund some silly PunkVoter concert is something I'd consider charity...

Anyway, you really didn't refute my point. I never said it was a huge money-making scheme. They're trying to sell garbage to kids using the whole idea that they'll be ROCKIN' AGAINST THE MAN if they buy into this rubbish.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/img/rockbush.jpg
Check out Bush getting ROCKED so hard that he has to cover his ears!

[Guerrilla22]

New Found Glory and Sum 41 both need to be lined up and shot, along with: Blink 182, Saves the Day, Story of the Year, Good Charlotte and other like bands.

[celtopunk]

There's some good music on it, there's some crappy music on it. I'm also not familiar with some of the bands so I'll reserve judgement on those.

As for the price I've seen it in stores for around $5-$6.

It is being sold to raise money for punkvoter.com The aim of that organization is to try and get younger voters (and potential voters) interested enough so that they might vote and make informed decisions when doing so. Now if you want to take the point that voting is pointless or that the differences between the candidates/parties doesn't warrant your interest that's fine as long as you are making an educated decision and not just being that way because it is cool to be opposed to the system.

The biggest complaint I would have about this is that many of the songs have nothing to do with Bush specifically. Hell the Jello/DOA track came out during Bush I, great song though.

And there will be a Volume 2 released on Aug 10th. See
http://www.fatwreck.com/albumdetail.php3?sd=&cat_num=677 for more info on that.

[Urban Rubble]

I don't normally do this, but since you had the gall to call me a 'fucking idiot'... You used the wrong tense up there, buddy. It costs 5 dollars, as it is still for sale at said price. Douche.

First of all, sorry for calling you a fucking idiot. I don't know you and I was out of line, though I do think what you said was idiotic.

I didn't disagree with you when you said it was for sale, what I said was that it only costs 5$ and that the profit goes to charity. You implied that this comp was a money making scheme, which is incredibly idiotic, not one person is profiting from this.


You mentioned that they were making a profit of a dollar per CD, and that their profits were going to charity? I don't think helping fund some silly PunkVoter concert is something I'd consider charity...

You don't think giving the money to an organization that has gotten many thousands of to start thinking politically is considered giving money to charity ? Really ? Are you a leftist ? Do you think that they are bad people for starting this organization that, like I said, has politicized thousands of perviously apolitical kids ?

Again, you're being idiotic. If you don't think getting young American kids to pull their heads out of the sand and become politically active on a pretty large scale is a worthwhile cause then I really don't see how you could be considered left wing whatsoever.


Anyway, you really didn't refute my point. I never said it was a huge money-making scheme. They're trying to sell garbage to kids using the whole idea that they'll be ROCKIN' AGAINST THE MAN if they buy into this rubbish.

That is because I had a hard time figuring out what your "point" is, if you had one at all. From where I am sitting it looks like you were criticizing them for producing an album with a political message, I assumed you were upset because they were using politics to profit. If that was not your point then please tell me what it was.

If your opinion is that they're trying to sell things to kids with the idea that they'll be "rockin against the man", is it really a stretch to assume that you meant they were doing it for profit ?


New Found Glory and Sum 41 both need to be lined up and shot, along with: Blink 182, Saves the Day, Story of the Year, Good Charlotte and other like bands.

Well, yeah, they do suck, however, if they should be shot then Pennywise should be right there with them. Pennywise is one of the few bands that tried to sell out, but nobody was buying ! :lol: (Same with Social D)

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 3 2004, 12:06 AM
Well, yeah, they do suck, however, if they should be shot then Pennywise should be right there with them. Pennywise is one of the few bands that tried to sell out, but nobody was buying ! :lol: (Same with Social D)
I don't understand the appeal of Pennywise.

And I don't think Social Distortion ever tried to sell out. They have changed their music over the years but I don't hear the attempted selling out you are referring to.

[Urban Rubble]

I don't understand the appeal of Pennywise.

I do. It's simple, watered down, pseudo punk rock for jocks that can't handle the real thing (apologies to any PW fans =).


And I don't think Social Distortion ever tried to sell out. They have changed their music over the years but I don't hear the attempted selling out you are referring to.

Well, the whole major label thing was a good start.

It just seems like in later years, Mike Ness really started trying a little too hard. Using his music in commercials, pimping his shit to corporate radio, dealing with major labels, using his music in every promotional way possible (MANY snowboard videos, a few skate videos) and the thing that really got me was the way he became a pardoy of himself on his solo albums. I don't know, I'm sure Mike's a great guy, I just feel like he really tried to become a "rock star", and it just didn't happen. :lol:

I like Social D, I like Mike Ness, don't get me wrong. Just a little criticism.

[Bazza]

I hadn't heard anything by The World/Inferno Friendship Society until today as one of the band contacted me about the band recording a cover for the Redskins tribute album that I am working on. The track I heard was called "I Remember The Weimar" and reminded me of early Dexys Midnight Runners which is hardly surprising since the band features ex-Dexys sax player Jeff Blythe.

If anyone wants to hear the track click on the following link - http://www.worldinferno.com/pumpkin.html

[RJRevolution]

I just heard about this concert series yesterday. I think its a pretty cool idea, and its a great way for these anti-bush artists to get their messages out. If it was playing up north near NYC where i live, I'd definetly go see it.

[refuse_resist]

Sounds like your typical new school punk music you'd hear at the Warped tour or something. Some of those bands are ok, but I don't care for most of them.

[Intifada]

Anyone know if you can buy the album in Britain? :huh:

[Bazza]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 09:48 PM
Anyone know if you can buy the album in Britain? :huh:
Yes, I saw a copy in my local HMV. You should also be able to order it from amazon or netsounds.com

[Lefty]

All of the songs on it are pretty good, with the exception of the New Found Glory song. I actually didn't hate the Sum 41 song as much as I thought I would.

[Edward Norton]

Does this album give any specifics as to who people should vote for when voting against Bush?

I have a gut feeling that this is just another 'Anybody but Bush, vote Kerry' gimmick.

Like most of the mass media and art industry, the have all gone long with the Kerry/Edwards ticket.

It's really sad to see so-called 'punk' groups pretending to be radical and rejecting all forms of authority yet then going on to give support to that two faced dick and his cronies in the 'Democrat' party.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I didnt see the specification on there. Vol. 2 is out now
I have both volumes. they fuckin rock

[celtopunk]

I don't really think there are that many good songs on these comps, and the other thing that bothers me is that most of the songs have absolutely nothing to do with Bush or his policies. During the Reagan era there was enough material to make several comps.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

There is planty of anti-right/anti-war/anti-Bush punk... isn't there?

[Capn An]

The compilation has almost nothing to do with the election and just further progress the falsification behind chaos anarchy. It has no educational factor behind it. Besides the fact that most of the music sucks.

[wet blanket]

Originally posted by Capn [email protected] 31 2004, 12:50 AM
The compilation has almost nothing to do with the election and just further progress the falsification behind chaos anarchy. It has no educational factor behind it. Besides the fact that all of the music sucks.
Correction.

[Capn An]

Against Me! has some good stuff.

[Purple]

what kind of charity does the profit go to?

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by lost [email protected] 31 2004, 01:02 PM
what kind of charity does the profit go to?
www.punkvoter.com

Go there and read about them yourself.

And RedZeppelin said There is planty of anti-right/anti-war/anti-Bush punk... isn't there?

And the answer would be yes but most of it is not on these CDs. And it really shouldn't be limited to punk either. I made my own anti-war CD a year or so ago and it was way better than these. I must admit I haven't found many songs that are "specifically" anti-Bush but Public Enemy's "Son of a Bush" does come to mind and it kicks ass! That should have been on there. Tv Smith did a great song too, and you can download it here http://www.tvsmith.com/NotInMyName.php

[STI]

I have a gut feeling that this is just another 'Anybody but Bush, vote Kerry' gimmick.

You're totally right. It's crap. I have vol. 1 and my friend has both volumes. Total crap. That's all there is to it.


It has no educational factor behind it.

Both volumes come with a DVD. The one that I have has stuff about how Bush didn't really win the election, then more stuff about how Bush "made up" (or whatever you want to call it) the "evidence" of WMD in Iraq. The slip in the CD case has "40 reasons to hate George Bush". Beyond that, nothing.

Did I mention that it's crap?

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

what about the offspring song? "bagdhad"?
and the ministry song?
and fuck you fringe motherfuckers on the left or the right who try to tear this album down

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Originally posted by Capn [email protected] 31 2004, 08:42 AM
Against Me! has some good stuff.
some one said some thing intelligent

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 12:03 AM
what about the offspring song? "bagdhad"?
and the ministry song?
and fuck you fringe motherfuckers on the left or the right who try to tear this album down
I haven't heard all of the first album. I have heard the entire second album. Now I should clarify what I have previously said on the subject of these albums. I should not have said there were only a few good songs on them. There's a decent amount of decent music on them and they work alright as punk comp. albums. However they fall far short of being "Rock Against BUSH" albums as every single cut does NOT specifically address the problem of George Bush and/or his policies, shit some of the songs aren't even political. Take the Epoxies song on the first album, I really like that song and that band but there is nothing political about that song therefore it does not belong there.

I hope that clears things up.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

think back to the second album
"Must it take a life for hatful eyes
To glisten once again
Five hundred years like Gelignite
Have blown us all to hell
What savior rests while on his cross we die
Has the Shepard led his lambs astray
to the bigot and the gun"

Thats as anti-war and anti-rascist as they come hence its anti-bush for he is a warhead and a rascist

[Lefty]

Punk Voter has run numerous ads about the virtues of Kerry, and loads of stuff pointing out the evils of the Bush administration.

[wet blanket]

fuck you fringe motherfuckers on the left or the right who try to tear this album down


some one said some thing intelligent

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 05:08 AM
...

Thats as anti-war and anti-rascist as they come hence its anti-bush for he is a warhead and a rascist
I'm sorry but it was simlply lazy to not ask these artists to come up with some frsh anti-Bush material, especially when you put out two albums.

Jello Biafra had been on a track called "CARPET BOMBERS FOR PEACE" that is only a little over a year old and hasn't been released in the US, why not include that instead of the old song he did with Nomeansno.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

actualy that track was with DxOxAx

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 04:31 AM
actualy that track was with DxOxAx
Okay it was a track that Jello did with DOA, but that one is even older (1990) than the Nomeansno stuff (1991), that he did.

[Soul Rebel]

the funny thing about the offspring being on this album is the fact that the singer is actually a bush supporter... He's come out and said it himself.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 07:07 PM
the funny thing about the offspring being on this album is the fact that the singer is actually a bush supporter... He's come out and said it himself.
Thats wierd because I read an artical where he said he dispised the man... :blink:

Maybe he just dispises kerry more. :unsure:

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 06:07 PM
the funny thing about the offspring being on this album is the fact that the singer is actually a bush supporter... He's come out and said it himself.
I'm not a fan of the Offspring, I don't dislike them either so I can't really speak to this other than to say I can't find any eveidence to support this. I do know that he is friends with Jello Biafra, Jello I don't think that Jello is friends with Bush supporters.

If you have any evidence to support this please share.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

senora che, I think youre thinking of johny fuckin ramone of the ramones

[Soul Rebel]

no, im thinking of the singer from offspring. if it was anyone from the ramones i would have said someone from the ramones.

they recently were in vigo and la voz de galicia had an article about it and had even talked to them. they discussed the compliation and how the singer (dexter) was actually a bush supporter. the guy said it himself. its his band members who are against him, while dexter threw his support in favor of bush.

you dont have to believe me, i could really care less. i just thought it was very hypocritical of him and that if i was going to by a cd like that i would want to know that the people behind it actually feel what they say.

[atlanticche]

you know a perfect circle are against bush as well, and are releasing an album on 2 november, thaat will be much better, the rock against bush thing is a bunch of shitty bands trying to be political