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Xvall
30th April 2002, 01:08
Ah, the words we hear in every war...
The words we heard in World War One,
The words we heard in World War Two..
The words we heard in Korea,
The words we heard in Vietnam,
The words from Iraq...
From Afghanistan...

Well, what is with this excessive spread of the notion that the United States is 'winning' it's war. What is with this Orwellian side changing. Thirty years ago, americans were waving flags in support of Afghanistan, Osoma Bin Laden was seen as a freedom fighter by president Ronald Raegan. The movie 'Red Dawn' was placed out as an anti-soviet film during the time. In fact, even buying the movie today, will indicate (Within a certain pamphlet with the movie.) that the creator of the movie is reminding us that 'Things like this happen in afghanistan every say'. He says that Afghanistan is a state with devoted people, that will defend it against any invador, especially the 'evil soviet empire'.

Well, quite a turn of events here, aren't there?
A while back, our leaders were insuring us that we needn't worry about the red threat. Assuring us that the Afghans were devoted people, and had GREAT tactics for stopping invaders. They showed pictures of strong gunsmen, charging towards their 'evil' invaders. But what happened now? When I look in the time magazine, I don't see the 'strong' warriors that America was glorifying not long ago. I see an old man, with a dusty rifle, and a caption under it.

This is a picture of the common Afghanistan conscript. All of which are ill equipted, and very unsucessful in most battle tactics.

Funny..
I could have sworn Raegan said that they were 'warriors', wheres that burly guy with the machine gun? Well... Here's the reason why. America has to be 'winning' this war. Even if they're loosing, they must be 'winning'. Notice that the Media RARELY reports any U.S casualties. The only times they do report them, are when a soldier is killed accidentally, or via friendly fire. They don't talk about the one soldier who was killed by a fourteen year old, or the 10-15 bodies that were being sent to the red cross every day. The media will tell us what THEY want us to hear, especially around these nationalistic times. They portray the American military as an Invincible Military machine, showing pictures of 'liberated' cities. (Crime has soared over 50% in some of these 'liberated' cities, by the way.) Anyone who questions these methods of 'liberation' is considered an 'anti-american', and called a terrorist. IN fact, the word terrorist is being used so often, it is loosing meaning. As if it wasn't bad enough that George had to make up some 'Axis of Evil', for his little christian fundamentalist crusade, and label random countries, such as North Korea terrorists.

The media will say we are winning every war we fight. We can be hiding in bunkers, while airplanes drop bombs overhead, we will still be 'winning' the war, according to Bush and Co. America is entering a new phase of militarism. Television is flooded with military recruitment ads. And idiots around my shcool believe that they alone will rummage through over 647,500 square miles to look for Goldstien! Oh, sorry.. 'Osoma'. Because you know, we ARE winning the war after all...

Just like in Vietnam..

- Drake Dracoli

(This is just a rant, some stuff I said may have not made any sense..)

bleed3r
30th April 2002, 16:17
nicely put, and sadly apparent... wouldn't it be nice if we had a reliable media..?

liderDeFARC
1st May 2002, 00:38
I think that is all true and it seems funny. Drake i think you are a good writer, i think i understood everything. I never hear much about u$ soldiers dying, because the u$ is "winning" ..... LOL, and i hear it from my social studies teacher; not to mention the most ignorant person, so it muuust mean the U$ is....... (piece shit)

They are hypocrites, the best explanation for these facts.

(Edited by liderDeFARC at 5:43 am on May 1, 2002)

Field Marshal
1st May 2002, 00:40
But Drake, how are the American's not winning the war?
The goal of the war, from my point of view, is to dismantle terrorist organizations and I assume to make the world a safer place. I can understand the media being biased, but where is the evidence that we are not winning?

I am not disagreeing with you, but some of your points need more clarifacation. Also, what "Liberated" cities are you specifically talking about?

Hattori Hanzo
1st May 2002, 21:48
I'm gald i'm not the only one who thinks American media is 1% truth and 99% Washington

bleed3r
2nd May 2002, 02:21
Quote: from Hattori Hanzo on 9:48 pm on May 1, 2002
I'm gald i'm not the only one who thinks American media is 1% truth and 99% Washington

far from it :)
welcome to the board comrade.

Angie
3rd May 2002, 12:05
1% truth and 99% WashingtonFantastic description, I must remember it. :)

pastradamus
3rd May 2002, 19:01
yeah nice one! :-)

Xvall
3rd May 2002, 21:04
Oh, I'm not saying they're loosing..
They are winning because of military superiority..
I'm just saying, the media is portraying the American soldiers as undestroyable military machines, and only reposrt accidental deaths. You're not loosing, But this isn't exactly a 'cakewalk' either..

- Drake Dracoli

wildflower8
5th May 2002, 22:54
I agree 100% with what you say. The media and government is really sick, and I think that the people who buy into that are even more vial. The "War on Terrorism" is such a cliche, it means nothing to me. To target terrorism we must go directly to the source, United States Inc. The "War on Terrorism" and the "War on Drugs" are the most ridiculously far-fetched ideas I have ever heard of.

PunkRawker677
6th May 2002, 01:17
well, according to the new commerials; The war on drugs and terrorism is the same thing. If you buy drugs you support terror. stupid stupid stupid people.. if you buy drugs you are supporting drug dealers, not terrorists, if you buy C4 and other terror equipment THAN you are supporting terror.

The "TRUTH" organization came to my college a couple weeks ago and was doing stupid things to make smoking look bad. i walked by them with my ciggarette in hand, and they said: You know, you are supporting greedy crooks who just want people to die of lung cancer.

i said: no, im supporting the economy, which is run by greedy crooks who just want people to work for them. i then put out my ciggarete, and the lady smiled..

it was humorous

FtWfTn
6th May 2002, 01:20
I love how you put that. . and I also love the 1%truth 99% Washington. . . .LMFAO. . . . .I'm gonna take out parts if you don't mind and make a flyer?

wildflower8
6th May 2002, 04:40
PR677- Thats classic! I would have loved to have been there!
~Xochitl