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Subversive Pessimist
29th July 2004, 16:59
Read this carefully:
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Webster's 1913 Dictionary
Comīmu`nist
n. 1. An advocate for the theory or practice of communism.
2. A supporter of the commune of Paris.
WordNet Dictionary
Noun 1. Communist - a member of the communist party
2. communist - a socialist who advocates communism
Synonyms: commie
Adj. 1. communist - relating to or marked by communism; "Communist Party"; "communist governments"; "communistic propaganda"
Synonyms: communistic
Bolshevik, Bolshevist, Bolshie, Carbonarist, Carbonaro, Castroist, Castroite, Charley, Communist sympathizer, Cong, Fenian, Guevarist, Jacobin, Leninist, Maoist, Marxist, Marxist-Leninist, Mau-Mau, Puritan, Red, Red Republican, Roundhead, Sinn Feiner, Stalinist, Titoist, Trotskyist, Trotskyite, VC, Vietcong, Yankee, Yankee Doodle, anarch, anarchist, avowed Communist, bolshie, bonnet rouge, commie, criminal syndicalist, fellow traveler, rebel, red, revisionist, revolutionary, revolutionary junta, revolutioner, revolutionist, revolutionizer, sans-culotte, sans-culottist, subversive, syndicalist, terrorist
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Webster's 1913 Dictionary
Anīarch`ism
n. 1. The doctrine or practice of anarchists.
WordNet Dictionary
Noun 1. anarchism - a political theory favoring the abolition of governments
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Is there any way of complaining about the definitions they use? :(
Karo de Perro
29th July 2004, 17:57
Amusing no? ... makin wares of commmunist artifacts,etc.
This of coutse leads me to point out the ridiculousness of the over-commercialization of Ches image ... here was a man who dedicated his life to the struggle against imperialism with its capitalistic tendencies based on greed and exploitation.
To think that all that this man fought for is struck to the ground with each new purchase of a tee-shirt,poster,etc bearing his image ... for this cause I see no reason to acknowledge anyone sporting such items as being a socialist let alone a revolutionary ... these are nothing more than mindless fuckers wishing to be what they can never become.
I recall that my ex-wife came in one day and smilingly reached me a Che tee-shirt she had purchased,of course I said 'ex-wife' and of course the tee-shirt remained with her.
I cannot help but consider how pissed Che himself would doubtlessly be regarding his image being used for commeralism wherein exploiters pander to pop-culture and for this cause I think it best that,if one must make use of such imagery then they should do this aside from market products ... download a Che image and then transfer it to a tee-shirt,poster,etc or else use what artistic ability you have and produce your own ... but by all means STOP feeding the fuckin cappies!
redstar2000
29th July 2004, 22:13
There's an amusing quote attributed to Lenin in this connection: the capitalists will cheerfully sell us the rope that we will use to hang them.
The commercialization of rebellion is a two-edged sword; while they are making a little money, they are taking the risk of spreading images that will not help them in the long run.
:redstar2000:
The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net)
A site about communist ideas
This isn't really new is it?
As Karo de Perro said for years apolitical people have been buying Che T-Shirts because 'it looks cool,' but I have started to notice the communist 'trend' increasing. You can't go anywhere nowadays without seeing someone wearing a t-shirt or tracksuit 'Havana 1959' or 'Cuba' written on it, or clothing with Russian writing and Bolshevist logos on, which I hate.
I agree that Che shirts might help us, but I doubt the rest will. People just buy it because, 'it looks cool.'
BTW, whats wrong with communist stuff being sold on ebay? I have bought a flag and a few hat pins off it.
DaCuBaN
30th July 2004, 12:50
Interesting...
Bolshevik, Bolshevist, Bolshie, Carbonarist
It only clicked right now where that word comes from - it's a common term of insult in the Scottish central belt... meaning arrogant, self-righteous, pig-headed.
eg. 'Crivvens, dinna be so Bolshie loon'
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Oh by the way, that won't be a 'proper' advert as such. Certain websites have deals with ebay to let them advertise on their sites, and this will be done by you searching for something on one of these sites, and an ebay ad will pop-up adverstising what you just searched for.
Aaaaaaaarrrrggghhhhh!!!!!!!!
I just saw this on ebay;
Russian Military Hammer & Sickle Cap Badge
You are bidding on one lot of 4 badges. These are becomming a fashion statement with teenagers. Sell the other 3 to your friends for Ģ1 each..................
Can't we wear revolutionary communist stuff anymore without being classed as a follower of fashions? :angry:
DaCuBaN
30th July 2004, 13:54
I'm telling you - just wear cordoroy. You're never in fashion :)
suffianr
31st July 2004, 01:50
The commercialization of communism isn't entirely something that is anti-thesis to the ideology; the point is to spread ideological awareness as far and wide as possible, and in perhaps extreme cases, by any means possible.
The only trick is to be able to counter the false perceptions that come with mass-market hype: if people walk around in hammer-and-sickle T-shirts feeling liberated and informed, what's the harm in that? It's only when they think that's all there is to it, that's where the reinforcement comes in...
wet blanket
31st July 2004, 02:17
Who really cares?
Hell, the best possible thing I could think of right now would be for Marxism to suddenly become hot shit with adolescents and young adults... Maybe socialism would start gaining further momentum and I'd start getting laid a little more often for being hip to 'the scene'. :lol:
Subversive Pessimist
31st July 2004, 13:17
Also, take a look at this site (so much ignorance):
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...ism&b=1&skip=20 (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=communism&b=1&skip=20)
COMMUNISM
A system of collectivist social order based on the idea that the individual is an expendable commodity of society, the State, or a fictitious "greater good" or "greater whole." Absolute order with no chaos, variation, or freedom. Equal to or worse than fascism. Philosophy that contradicts nature yet claims to be defending the environment. Prevalent use of scapegoating, coercion, secret police, taxation, and expropriation.
Snivelling sycophants of this philosophy will use pro-worker rhetoric to gain the trust of the working class. Sameness and equality are not the same thing.
Kim Jong Il's police state proves that communism is all about absolute order.
A style of government that resulted in over 92,000,000 combined deaths in each country that tried it. Apparently, it should be tried again (maybe they'll only kill a few thousand this time).
Anybody who tries to defend communism is either:
a. laughably ignorant
b. mentally ill
c. votes for Ralph Nader or supports Dennis Kucinich
d. all of the above
ANARCHISM
A from of rebellion misunderstood by anyone other than a true punker...A form of self realization and non-mainstream thought...
Source: randomPUNK
No government. Sucks a lot. Communism is way better. Long live Lenin!!!!
If you want anarchism, then move to Afghanistan...
SOCIALISM
Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery."
rahul
1st August 2004, 12:09
how to stop them doing that
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they are just commersialising the communism!
The idealist
1st August 2004, 12:46
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill said that I believe.
Personally I cannot see what is wrong in that quote. Everyone shares the burden instead of people continuously dumping it on those beneath them until it hits the poor, who can't dump it further.
socialistfuture
3rd August 2004, 12:08
he also said this : (among other things)
"I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisonous gas against uncivilised tribes."
quite a guy
"One may dislike Hitler's system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated, I hope we should find a champion as admirable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations."
"The choice was clearly open: crush them with vain and unstinted force, or try to give them what they want. These were the only alternatives and most people were unprepared for either. Here indeed was the Irish spectre - horrid and inexorcisable."
"I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisonous gas against uncivilised tribes."
and to top it off:
"I do not admit... that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia... by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race... has come in and taken its place."
h&s
3rd August 2004, 12:32
OK, I never thought I'd say this, but Winston Churchill was a racist bastard.
Nothing can excuse him for saying that, ever.
Sabocat
3rd August 2004, 12:40
Wasn't it also Churchill that said that "We should strangle the baby in the cradle" referring to Communism?
h&s
3rd August 2004, 12:46
Well he was a Tory, so I suppose that was to be expected.
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