Hey, n00b here

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Hey,

Well I finally registered, I check the boards alot (thanks Nateddi for showing me) and i never joined, until now. I was afraid to join because i dont know much about politics, socialism or communism, but before i get Cappie VS Commie access only I don't like many capitalist ideas. (on the political map i got Left/Right -4.25 and Authoriation Libertarian -4.46). So I have some questions,

1) Why Socialism/Communism over Capitalism?

2) Why Capitalism over Socialism/Communism?

Yes I know #2 may be hard for some people to answer, but everything has flaws, I would just like to know them

3) Whats the difference between Socialism and Communism?

4) What are the main believes of Socialism?

5) What are the main believes of Communism?

Well if you answer those questions for a confused kid like me I'd appreciate it, thanks

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woops my bad, i thought this was the lounge, aw well :)

[Nateddi]

Im too tired to start writting shit, these are not greatly specific questions, so the explanations would be too long and/or complicated. Just do a search or something like that.

Welcome to the board Ken

[Nateddi]

1) Why Socialism/Communism over Capitalism?
End to exploitation for profit, end to unneeded monetary spending for profit, democratic economy where things are not pushed and manupulated for the sake of private profit. All these will directly and indirectly get reduce social problems which are at the root of capitalism, such as crime, poverty, and racism. This is idealogically blissful.


2) Why Capitalism over Socialism/Communism?
Competition, greater choise, of products. Freedom to own and operate your own company for profit, etc. This is also only idealogically blisfull.

3) Whats the difference between Socialism and Communism?
Socialism is Communism to a lesser extent. It only implies social ownership over the major industries, while keeping some sort of a market for minor products. Communism cannot be achieved without a timeperiod of stable socialism.

These questions are too vague, as I said, do a search, this is why I only briefly commented on them.

[RedRevolutionary87]

well i can answer some things shortly and maybe others can add to the main idea.

one of the problems with capitalism is that it allows the types of freedoms that impede on other peoples freedoms. another problem is the unpaid labour of workers, workers can not buy back their product, this leads to overproduction, which leads to lay offs, and then you have more people who cant afford the product and more over production, and the only way to end this is to destroy surplus product in war, this is why the capitalist era has produced more wartime than any other time. communism on the other hand, give people the right to controll themselves, not on an individual basis, but a social basis, ones personal, individual rights may be less than those in capitalism, but it allows society in general to be freer, by allowing everyone to reach the same freedoms. it creats a society that is told what to do only by itself, everyone takes orders from everyone else, but the people in general take orders from no1. it makes the population a single entity, and splits all wealth equaly amongst all parts, provided they contribute. the only set back to communism is that never will all the people of the earth enjoy the same kind of lifestyle as the richest of the borgouis company owners, but this infact is not a set back to our theory it is simply because of the lack product on this planet. communism simply prevents ones freedom to be anothers slavery, it forces equality amongst all people, and destroys the overproductive nature of capitalism, instead the nation produces only what is needed, one doesnt work to be paid, but instead to contribute, and in return they feel the benifits of everyones contribution.

from all according to their abilities, to all according to their needs.