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Nas
26th July 2004, 22:17
just to let all right wings know and lefties too,
Chile's (1970-73) "Communist government" was elected in a democratic election
Salvador Allende was the president but unfortunately Chilean military led by General Augusto Pinochet, staged the Chilean coup of 1973 against Allende, and guess who was known to be supporting the coup ??????
if you said the CIA , you are correct comrade

many people called Salvador Allende's rise the silent revolution because it did not involve a bloody revolution like the USSR


The coup that many Chileans hoped would protect the constitution actually resulted in its destruction and dictatorship by Pinochet.

Dr. Rosenpenis
29th July 2004, 03:01
You're preaching to the choir, comrade.

And Allende was hardly a communist. More towards socialist, I'd say.

Xvall
29th July 2004, 03:49
Allende was a socialist. Regardless, the point is; we have had many socialist/communist leaders elected into their positions. (See Moldova) It's not our fault that the CIA sees it necessary to murder them and replace them with tyrants for the 'good of the people'. Remember what Henry Kissinger said in response to Allende's death: I don't see why we should let a country go red just because it's people don't know how to vote.

Fidel Castro
30th July 2004, 02:53
Ahh Dr Allende, he had so much more to offer before the CIA pigs and that bastard Pinochet came charging in.

Isn't it amazing how the US is so terrified of anyone who offers an alternative system which challenges the value of the Yankee Emperial system?

Long live the memories of all those whom have perished under the iron fist of Yankee Imperialism, one of whom was the dear Salvador Allende.

Salvador Allende
30th July 2004, 05:06
To throw numbers into the game. In the first year of Allende's reign in Chile, the industrial output went up 17%, the agricultural 14%, unemployment dropped from 8.4 percent to roughly 3.2 percent, inflation halved, land was redistributed to the landless and there was a program set up to give free milk to every child. In the first three years of Pinochet's reign over 130,000 people disappeared and were never seen again, the stadium in Santiago was turned into a concentration camp and health care began to be destroyed. Health care eventually turned into the government telling people to lie about what diseases were because the government reduced health care so much. There were armed guards on every street corner and in every corner of every mall. Now people are very nostalgic for the Allende days and he is seen as a hero and symbol of truth, thus why there are now several statues of him in Chile. The USA got involved because Salvador Allende allied with Fidel Castro and they saw Allende as a threat because he used an act from the 1930's to seize control of their businesses in Chile and redistribute them to the working class.

YKTMX
30th July 2004, 15:19
I suppose Chile is the most regrettable proof that we need revolution not reform.

Though Allende's intentions were doubtless worthy; the fact that he hoped to slowly change to socialism through incremental reforms was his downfall.

The capitalist class will never idly sit by and accept loss of power, no matter who wins in a "democratic eletion".

STI
30th July 2004, 19:31
Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 03:19 PM
I suppose Chile is the most regrettable proof that we need revolution not reform.

Though Allende's intentions were doubtless worthy; the fact that he hoped to slowly change to socialism through incremental reforms was his downfall.

The capitalist class will never idly sit by and accept loss of power, no matter who wins in a "democratic eletion".
Wow. It's like you took the words right out of my mouth. Well put.