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young man from china
26th July 2004, 13:09
I 'm a young of 24 who live in China. sorry,I'm not good at English.actually my English is poor. I hope the friends here can understand what iI say.
as we know,the China government says that China is a socialism country. Bu after the reform and opening up(1978),the moism was abandoned and China becomes more and more captalism-country-liked. more and more ordinary people become poor.
what do the friend in foreign country think of China? is it still a country belonged to people? I want to know.
---- the revolution will never die!!!!!
Sorry, but China is not communist.
BTw, are you allowed to post here? I thought your government didn't like the net.
bunk
26th July 2004, 13:19
Where did he say that China was a communist country?
On the news yesterday it said that China had the second biggest amount of people in the world using the internet.
rahul
26th July 2004, 13:21
china is well devolopped
you can have much internet and all in china.........
rahul
26th July 2004, 13:32
and i discussed about china with a chineese teacher when i went to china boarder.i would post my conversatio over here that chineese name is SU
rahul : hi
su :hey
rahul : do you know mao ?
su : mao ze dong ?
rahul : yas
su : yes , i know him
rahul : do you like mao ?
SU :no,he is the fellow with a big contravarcy...........
and SU is not a cappie to hate mao.
feelings against mao may be encouraged in china!
.....and thats why....
and i met few young police in the boarder
who are just earning lots of money
they take 10 rupees from the indians who come to visit boarder and give 1 yen, i gave them 10 rupees and got a yen from them
young man from china
26th July 2004, 13:37
i say a socialism country. not a communism country. as you know they are different from each other.
in china , a think we have the liberty to use intrtnet and say what we want to say. not as some people think. but what we say and think can't effect the government. :(
rahul
26th July 2004, 15:39
so would you expect communism again in china?
Frederick_Engles
26th July 2004, 21:58
Communism does not exist in China
young man from china
27th July 2004, 02:43
are cuba friends here? do you think cuba is communsim? I am a communist and certainly a hope that China can be better in a communism way.
rahul
27th July 2004, 02:53
not better as it declares to be a communist and it follow cappies...
JohnTheMarxist
27th July 2004, 04:06
China has a socialistic nature in its friendship with Cuba, its canceling of third world debt (unilaterally) and state ownership of most property. The capitalist classes in other nations still hate China because it refuses to open itself fully to exploitation. However, the Communist Party already allows capitalists to join the party, they have allowed the black market to flourish and have privatized many essential services such as healthcare..creating a new poor class. China also does not have active political participation like Cuba does. Developing nations like Cuba,Vietnam< and China must make use of limited amounts of capital to develope their nations and survive in a capitalist world..however it is hard to find a balance. Cuba in myopinion, has done a much better job at socialist revolution and limited capital. We cannot expect these states to be perfect, every nation will always have problems to work through whether they be capitalist or socialist in nature.
On the news yesterday it said that China had the second biggest amount of people in the world using the internet.
Yes, but I heard on the news a couple of weeks ago that the Chinese government had banned that Wikipedia site because it gave "too much political knowledge to the people."
young man from china
27th July 2004, 13:45
a mass of web been banned are right wing webs. most left-wing web can exist in china,although in a danger way. at least i can accessi to this web without any trouble.
the democracy system in china is improving day by day.but not in a socialism way.
Fidelbrand
27th July 2004, 14:38
Originally posted by young man from
[email protected] 27 2004, 09:45 PM
a mass of web been banned are right wing webs. most left-wing web can exist in china,although in a danger way. at least i can accessi to this web without any trouble.
the democracy system in china is improving day by day.but not in a socialism way.
yes, wish i was born few decades ago.
Anyway, with the one-party system adopted in China, CCP will continue to act "socialist", and who knows in the end if, circumstances allow & chances provided, they will be a genuine socialist/communist country again?
regalshi
30th July 2004, 15:27
most chinese love and respect Maozedong.
China is the sixth economy power in the world now.How about the situation in Cuba?has Cuba adopted market economy or still a planning economy?
it is my first time to visit a Cuba website, but it's very strange i feel close to Cuban.
Because we are all communism nation?
But it seems there a aniti-china trend here, is china viewd as traitor of Maxism?
China is fuxored basically. China is a slave to American corporations, which basically fuel their economy. Largley from privitization, China has made a heap of cash from destroying its own lands and forests. I predict a large scale epidemic for it, unless it changes its policies.
wet blanket
31st July 2004, 20:29
Originally posted by
[email protected] 30 2004, 03:27 PM
most chinese love and respect Maozedong.
China is the sixth economy power in the world now.How about the situation in Cuba?has Cuba adopted market economy or still a planning economy?
it is my first time to visit a Cuba website, but it's very strange i feel close to Cuban.
Because we are all communism nation?
But it seems there a aniti-china trend here, is china viewd as traitor of Maxism?
The Chinese Communist Party is not really a 'traitor' to Marxism, they're just bourgeois scum. They've betrayed their own revolution, their peasantry, and their workers... not Marxism.
Daymare17
14th August 2004, 11:22
Hello young_man_from_china!
If you are interested in reading a Marxist analysis of China and what must be done to achieve socialism, check out these 3 very good Marxist articles:
http://www.tedgrant.org/works/4/9/chinese_revolution.html (1949)
http://www.tedgrant.org/works/4/9/chinese_revolution.html (1964)
http://www.marxist.com/Asia/china94.html (1994)
The www.marxist.com website carries on these ideas today. Also, feel free to visit the http://discussion.newyouth.com forums to discuss Marxism and the prospects for a revolution in China.
Louis Pio
14th August 2004, 13:38
There even is another chinese member of that discussionboard.
In my oppinion China is capitalism with a totalitarian stateapparatus.
Isn't it true that unemployments is growing rapidly in China? From what I heard it seems to be the case.
Guest1
14th August 2004, 14:05
Just to clarify, this is not a Cuban website, this is a website for people from all over the world.
We don't have a problem with China, but the hope is in its people, not its government. The government has led the country down a path to exploitation, and though Cuba is a little better, it is not a shining beacon of Socialism either.
What you must understand of course, while you read this website, is that every person here has a different point of view.
seen_che
14th August 2004, 16:21
I dont see China as communist att all its ljust a cover....I think China first of all need DEMOCRATY and then put it to getter whit sosialism ....as I se it China hasent got enof democraty...and to little sosialism
:marx:
antieverything
15th August 2004, 05:38
Does anyone here speak english? ;)
If you want to know what I think of China, read my posts in "China: A New Marxist Road Pathing"...whatever the fuck that topic name is supposed to mean.
wet blanket
15th August 2004, 08:30
China is neither a capitalist nor a socialist country... it's a really twisted sort of semi-fascist state waving a red flag.
It's a great real life example of the saying "sticking feathers up your ass doesn't make you a chicken".
seen_che
15th August 2004, 08:32
Does anyone here speak english?
Speake yess but canīt write
:P
Postteen
15th August 2004, 22:04
Well,I'm in love with China and the Chinese!!(and the Korean)But I think that people there want to turn western!They're crazy!Their civilization is fantastic!!Now China is more capitalistic than ever.Luckily they keep their great flag!
Invader Zim
15th August 2004, 22:15
Originally posted by young man from
[email protected] 26 2004, 02:09 PM
I 'm a young of 24 who live in China. sorry,I'm not good at English.actually my English is poor. I hope the friends here can understand what iI say.
as we know,the China government says that China is a socialism country. Bu after the reform and opening up(1978),the moism was abandoned and China becomes more and more captalism-country-liked. more and more ordinary people become poor.
what do the friend in foreign country think of China? is it still a country belonged to people? I want to know.
---- the revolution will never die!!!!!
sorry,I'm not good at English.actually my English is poor. I hope the friends here can understand what iI say.
You speak better English than I speak Cantoneese, or Mandarin. So no worries.
as we know,the China government says that China is a socialism country. Bu after the reform and opening up(1978),the moism was abandoned and China becomes more and more captalism-country-liked. more and more ordinary people become poor.
I would say that China has never been a communist in the strict sense of the word. I think its definatly not now.
duk
16th August 2004, 10:01
i think that china is the only country who can fight USA! china needs 2 become more comunist and take the place of the USSR! every country who is fightin US need the help from CHINA! china must help the arab countries who in the future will fight usa! n china must help iran! USA has helped BIN LADEN 2 fight the USSR! its not wrong if china or any country will help us enemies! IM from lebanon and we need some help overhere 2 fight usa n israel! lets say : FOR MOTHER CHINA ;)
lets begin the big REVOLUTION :hammer:
h&s
16th August 2004, 14:24
Originally posted by
[email protected] 16 2004, 10:01 AM
i think that china is the only country who can fight USA! china needs 2 become more comunist and take the place of the USSR! every country who is fightin US need the help from CHINA! china must help the arab countries who in the future will fight usa! n china must help iran! USA has helped BIN LADEN 2 fight the USSR! its not wrong if china or any country will help us enemies! IM from lebanon and we need some help overhere 2 fight usa n israel! lets say : FOR MOTHER CHINA ;)
lets begin the big REVOLUTION :hammer:
If only China were Communist that would be possible..... :angry:
Fidelbrand
16th August 2004, 15:49
Originally posted by Beatle
[email protected] 16 2004, 06:04 AM
Well,I'm in love with China and the Chinese!!(and the Korean)But I think that people there want to turn western!They're crazy!Their civilization is fantastic!!Now China is more capitalistic than ever.Luckily they keep their great flag!
you are so right, man.
For China, it's all the fault of Deng's capitalist roadings.
For Hong Kong, it's its ingrained mentality to be capitalist under British's rule during the colonial era.
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