Media

[Anarchist Freedom]

Lately because of boredom i have come to a major breakthrough. This is that our Media is no longer the truth that it has become nothing more then based on sensationalism. The news would rather tell you about how some kid got shot in the face then to talk about the man that stopped a robbery. Then we have things like MTV promoting sex with every angle they can. I may sound a bit anti free speech right now but dont you think media has a gone a bit to far by focusing on purely sensationalism and eye candy?


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[FatFreeMilk]

Then we have things like MTV promoting sex with every angle they can.
They also promote voting at every angle they can. Sex and voting come hand in hand. But what more can you expect from music televison?

It's cause of right wing domination in the media. They focus on things that aren't really impotant while neglecting the important issues and then it catches on to other stations. So what isn't very important becomes headline news! And then they try to scare Americans shitless for stupid things. That's why they started that color coded nonsense for terrorism. And Y2K was a joke they played on us btw. Those bastards.

I wish I could come up with breakthroughs like this when I'm bored!

[robob8706]

I hate it when people say "Oh I'm not going to see Fahrenheit 911 because it's so one sided." Well so is the media and the news. And the news is the last thing that should be biased. And yet they follow it without questions.

[che's long lost daughter]

The media is (are?) a really good source of information but what is happening is that the media that is supposed to provide us with information that is meant to help us is giving us information that is distorted. There is way too much sensationalism going on. The bad is made to look good and vice versa. No one could trust the media anymore.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

The media exists in order to promote a viewpoint of the world that is passive, you understand the world the way the media does because without the media you have no way of understanding the world's happenings.

[refuse_resist]

The way the media functions here is ridiculous. It's the best way of getting propaganda across for the government, and distorting the truth and telling lies. Because they know that by telling a lie over and over again, the people will begin to believe it. So if they believe that, you can get them to do whatever you want.

[DaCuBaN]

Y2K was a joke they played on us

:D
That was a joke.... right?


I hate it when people say "Oh I'm not going to see Fahrenheit 911 because it's so one sided."

Why? I don't watch televisual or listen to radio news either. There are far better ways to stay up to date. Look up RSS feeds - I believe there is information on it on this site no less. I agree to promote one and not the other is entirely hypocritical however.


The news would rather tell you about how some kid got shot in the face then to talk about the man that stopped a robbery

Media outlets are broadcasting mediums - that is they have a multitude of information to choose from, and a limited amount of time/space in which to broadcast it. They must pick and choose what to show, and hence are vitally flawed.

[robob8706]

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I hate it when people say "Oh I'm not going to see Fahrenheit 911 because it's so one sided."



Why? I don't watch televisual or listen to radio news either. There are far better ways to stay up to date. Look up RSS feeds - I believe there is information on it on this site no less. I agree to promote one and not the other is entirely hypocritical however.


I'm not being hypocritical because im saying that the news shouldn't be one sided because its public and it should be strictly informational and un biased. Where as a movie like Fahrenheit where i'm PAYING to see a biased show. The news is something the public believes no matter what they are told, so they should be told the truth and not bias. The difference is, the news is public and you have no choice as to what viewpoint will be expressed. While a movie such as fahrenheit i already know will be biased, and i am CHOOSING to see it. The news is meant to inform and let the viewers decide, not tell them what to think.

[all-too-human]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 02:17 AM

I'm not being hypocritical because im saying that the news shouldn't be one sided because its public and it should be strictly informational and un biased.
The news media is only publicly owned in Canada, i'm not sure about Britain and other EU countries. The fact is, they can show whatever they want, and americans will watch, because they're scared shitless of what might happen if they don't.
God fobid they go grocery shoppinng with an axe murderer on the loose.

[Fabi]

When looking at the news it is incredible to see, that facts play a very minor role - interpretation plays the main part. When trying to understand why interpretation leads to passivity, you have to look at the fact that reality does not need interpretation - interpretation means that you are translating reality into some kind of limited world view, that - by its very nature - will try to remain as stagnant as possible: If anyone spreading news actually wanted to condemn and stop violence, they'd have to condemn all violence. Instead of condemning all violence, and starting with themselves, violence is being accepted as a part of the world view, which in turn has to fight the violence with violence - a perpetuum mobile that will keep both the violence, as well as the world view intact. An interpretation will always mean that reality is being reduced to fit a limited system, one that the creators of said system will feel most comfortable living with. Can be seen with media - but you only have to exchange a couple of words to see that religion works the same way. We have not created a world beyond religion - everything we do and think is based heavily on irrational beliefs - God is in the TV...

So, I guess I might agree with Geist, that is, if I understood him, correctly. :)

[Pawn Power]

I wouldent even call the "news" today the news, they focus more on entertainment then the actual occurences in the worl. As for mtv and other mindless telivision, which is practically all of tv, it destroies your mind.

[monkeydust]

Well at least some of the media is bearable. I don't mind the Guardian or Channel 4, for instance.

To a large extent though, like Geist rightly said, the media presents a picture of the world that is passive and uncritical (in any manner more complex than abject cynicism).

I think that the issue is far greater than this though. I think that the media, at a subtle level, assiduously promotes liberal-democratic values as "the norm", and as "the right thing". Thus the media (along with other institutions such as the education system) churns out large numbers of people who are, essentially, liberals, though unthinkingly so.

Not only does "the system" bring about considerable liberal-democratic hegemony, but the doing so under the pretension of free speech, difference and freedom makes the effect all the more potent, and makes the outlawing of rival ideas all the easier.

[Raisa]

This is infact simply capitalism boys and girls! No surprise here at all. :D

Sensationalism makes people watch the news, the news is competing with alot of sensational stuff out there so naturally its going to try and rise to the standard, who cares if it compromises the truth- it brings in the money and thats what its all about!

[Guerrilla22]

Why do people keep posting stuff that's common knowledge?

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 05:46 PM
Why do people keep posting stuff that's common knowledge?
:D :D :D

[Fabi]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 09:46 AM
Why do people keep posting stuff that's common knowledge?
So that maybe-arrogant farts can fart farty posts like yours, adding a whole new dimension to the commoninininity of the thread.

[insurgency03]

media does have its purpose in our world, i know a lot of dumb-ass's out there that wouldnt even know what NAFTA was, if it wasnt for the media. unfortunately though almost all mainstream stations are privately owned and thus serve their owners agenda. What i think an important concept that we should be worrying about is creating a publicly funded non-profit station in every city in every country. we also need to create parameters on the mainstream news as to how they state their information, we should make it to where they can only give the facts of a situation, and to make sure that all variables and pros and cons are given, that way people can think for themselves for once in their lifetime if theirs absoulutly no opinion behind the situations that the medias reporting on. the first sign of progress in a nation is large amounts of the population thinking for themselves. A good example of that would be back in the sixties and late seventies, when the news was even more biased and uncensored, but no 1 person owned over two or three local networks. people began to wonder what was really going on in Nam, what nixion and johnson were really up to. the best indication in my opinion, i also think that underground news is another great source of information, seeing that it probly wouldnt be easy to monopolize that.

[pandora]

It's like they prove with the case against Fox News over RBST in milk in Florida.
There is no law that says the media has to tell the truth.
So once we recognize that's whats going on what use does the news have other than entertainment.
A distraction from what's really going on.
I do feel we need news.
But this aint it.

[Kobbot 401]

found when surfing the web. you diside what it means

[Capn An]

For every story on Fox News that can be seen as a hero story there are at least 3 stories to scare the general populace. The first story of the News the other night was how a man broke through a woman's window and raped her, followed by the story of the U.S. Success in Athens.

[Kobbot 401]

Fox news only covers what the goverment wants them to cover. You never hear anything major of the goverments fumbles, unless there is no why for the goverment to cover it up. The news is very one sided.

[Anarchist Freedom]

The sad thing is though that news will A never be public in america it would put the goverment in too much risk. Also its impossible for a publicly owned news show on television and radio to compete with multi national world wide news companies such and NBC CBS or Fox because they have something public news doesnt MONEY!

Sadly in america the reason most people are morons is because they watch the news...

[commiecrusader]

Media is a force for good if it is in the right hands. Unfortunately at the moment all the major news networks are either funded directly by governments or by people who have a vested interest in the government hence they are aaaaaall biased. So I guess what I would say is it is a bad thing at the moment.

[Rasta Sapian]

t.v. good, yes, internet, good, yes, must buy new computer, coffee, mcdonalds, go to walmart buy DVD;s yes, i know media, good

[gaf]

media is (are) an illusion(distortion) only if you want to believe in it
read or listen 1 and you will see 1 thing read or listen 2 and you will see 2 thing
who listen one bell will hear 1 sound.....this is up to you,not to them