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Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 18:42
So, as American Lance Armstrong goes for his 7th Tour De France win, apparently some Europeans, mostly French I'm sure, are spitting on him, throwing things at him, and even trying to run into the street and slow him down.

This is the biggest display of American envy I've seen yet from France, and lets be honest, we've all seen a lot.

I could even understand them booing him, hoping that he doesen't beat them at their own race "yet again". But to treat him like they are, trying to simply cheat and slow him down, is atrocious. They are basically admitting that they can't beat him legitimately. It is good to see many American flags on the course, though. At least he has some support there.

This whole situation really illustrates the entire attitude of France toward the US: You out-do us in pretty much every aspect, so all we can do is result to petty name-calling, spitting, and toe-stepping to try and shake you up. Legitimately speaking, we can''t hold a candle to you.

Its really OK, as American strength and perseverance seems to be prevailing yet again. Despite atttempts to thwart his progress, Armstrong still leads, and looks to have enough of a margin to take it yet again.

Louis Pio
22nd July 2004, 18:53
It's not my impression. People cheer for Lance Armstrong. Maybe some french are mad, but considering how patetic the american media treated the french then it's no wonder.

Anyway funny that a man from the worlds fattest nation is in such good shape :D

gummo
22nd July 2004, 19:07
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 06:53 PM
It's not my impression. People cheer for Lance Armstrong. Maybe some french are mad, but considering how patetic the american media treated the french then it's no wonder.

Anyway funny that a man from the worlds fattest nation is in such good shape :D
Better fat than starving. Go get yourself another bowl of cabbage stew.

Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 19:26
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 06:53 PM
It's not my impression. People cheer for Lance Armstrong. Maybe some french are mad, but considering how patetic the american media treated the french then it's no wonder.

Anyway funny that a man from the worlds fattest nation is in such good shape :D
The funny thing is that, being the "fattest nation" statistically, we are also the world's most athletic.

Just check the olympic medal count.

gummo
22nd July 2004, 19:37
I wanna know how the US, with all our streets filled with poor starving people, is the world's fattest!

It's a conspiracy!!!

Sabocat
22nd July 2004, 19:40
Talking to French television immediately after putting on his 62nd tour leader's yellow jersey, Armstrong singled out German fans for "disgusting" behaviour, though he later backed away from specifying a nationality.

Armstrong may have been given a hard time because of his long rivalry with German Jan Ullrich, who is now almost eight minutes adrift.

Link (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/22/1090464796874.html?oneclick=true)

Anything to attack the French eh?


So, as American Lance Armstrong goes for his 7th Tour De France win

Isn't it actually his sixth?

Invader Zim
22nd July 2004, 19:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 08:07 PM
Better fat than starving. Go get yourself another bowl of cabbage stew.
I'm not from America and i'm not starving (far from it), I'm also probably thinner than you, fitter than you and stronger than you are or could ever hope to be...

So you stick to your pathetic ideals about other countries, because we all know its only because your a fat bastard who's too lazy to lose weight.

gummo
22nd July 2004, 19:49
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 07:46 PM
I'm not from America and i'm not starving (far from it), I'm also probably thinner than you, fitter than you and stronger than you are or could ever hope to be...

So you stick to your pathetic ideals about other countries, because we all know its only because your a fat bastard who's too lazy to lose weight.
Hahaha, my daddy can beat up your daddy.

I'll make sure to quit generalizing about other countries since you ****s are kind enough to do the same about the US.

Fidelbrand
22nd July 2004, 19:50
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 03:37 AM
I wanna know how the US, with all our streets filled with poor starving people, is the world's fattest!

It's a conspiracy!!!
No...It's capitalism. :D

Louis Pio
22nd July 2004, 19:50
Better fat than starving. Go get yourself another bowl of cabbage stew.

Well you can eat good food without becoming fat. But it seems you haven't realised that. Lucky for you the fat is in your head instead of on your stomach :D

gummo
22nd July 2004, 19:56
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 07:50 PM

Well you can eat good food without becoming fat. But it seems you haven't realised that. Lucky for you the fat is in your head instead of on your stomach :D
:D

teeehheeee

Sabocat
22nd July 2004, 19:57
Just check the olympic medal count.

Okay....now what? :lol:

Winter

G S B Total
1. Germany 12 16 7 35
2. Norway 11 7 6 24
3. United States of America 10 13 11 34
4. Russian Federation 6 6 4 16
5. Canada 6 3 8 17
6. France 4 5 2 11
7. Italy 4 4 4 12
8. Finland 4 2 1 7
9. Netherlands 3 5 0 8
10. Switzerland 3 2 6 11
11. Croatia 3 1 0 4
12. Austria 2 4 11 17
13. China 2 2 4 8
14. Korea 2 2 0 4
15. Australia 2 0 0 2
16. Spain 2 0 0 2
17. Estonia 1 1 1 3
18. Czech Republic 1 0 1 2
19. Great Britain 1 0 1 2
20. Sweden 0 2 4 6
21. Bulgaria 0 1 2 3
22. Japan 0 1 1 2
23. Poland 0 1 1 2
24. Belarus 0 0 1 1
25. Slovenia 0 0 1 1

Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/winterolympics2002/hi/english/static/winter_olympics/statistics/collated_medal_table.stm)


Summer

COUNTRY GOLD SILVER BRONZE TOTAL
======= ==== ====== ======
United States 39 25 33 97
Russia 32 28 28 88
China 28 16 15 59
Australia 16 25 17 58
Germany 14 17 26 57
France 13 14 11 38
Italy 13 8 13 34
Cuba 11 11 7 29
Britain 11 10 7 28
Korea 8 9 11 28
Romania 11 6 9 26
Netherlands 12 9 4 25
Ukraine 3 10 10 23
Japan 5 8 5 18
Hungary 8 6 3 17
Belarus 3 3 11 17
Poland 6 5 3 14
Canada 3 3 8 14
Bulgaria 5 6 2 13
Greece 4 6 3 13
Sweden 4 5 3 12
Brazil 0 6 6 12
Spain 3 3 5 11
Norway 4 3 3 10
Switzerland 1 6 2 9
Ethiopia 4 1 3 8
Czech Republic 2 3 3 8
Kazakhstan 3 4 0 7
Kenya 2 3 2 7
Jamaica 0 4 3 7
Denmark 2 3 1 6
Indonesia 1 3 2 6
Mexico 1 2 3 6
Georgia 0 0 6 6
Lithuania 2 0 3 5
Slovakia 1 3 1 5
Algeria 1 1 3 5
South Africa 0 2 3 5
Belgium 0 2 3 5
Morocco 0 1 4 5
Chinese Taipei 0 1 4 5
Iran 3 0 1 4
Turkey 3 0 1 4
Finland 2 1 1 4
Uzbekistan 1 1 2 4
New Zealand 1 0 3 4
Argentina 0 2 2 4
North Korea 0 1 3 4
Austria 2 1 0 3
Azerbaijan 2 0 1 3
Yugoslavia 1 1 1 3
Latvia 1 1 1 3
Thailand 1 0 2 3
Estonia 1 0 2 3
Nigeria 0 3 0 3
Slovenia 2 0 0 2
Bahamas 1 1 0 2
Croatia 1 0 1 2
Moldova 0 1 1 2
Trinidad & Tobago 0 1 1 2
Saudi Arabia 0 1 1 2
Costa Rica 0 0 2 2
Portugal 0 0 2 2
Mozambique 1 0 0 1
Cameroon 1 0 0 1
Colombia 1 0 0 1
Uruguay 0 1 0 1
Ireland 0 1 0 1
Vietnam 0 1 0 1
Macedonia 0 0 1 1
Kuwait 0 0 1 1
Kyrgyzstan 0 0 1 1
Armenia 0 0 1 1
Iceland 0 0 1 1
India 0 0 1 1
Barbados 0 0 1 1
Chile 0 0 1 1
Israel 0 0 1 1
Qatar 0 0 1 1
Sri Lanka 0 0 1 1

Invader Zim
22nd July 2004, 20:07
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 08:49 PM
Hahaha, my daddy can beat up your daddy.

I'll make sure to quit generalizing about other countries since you ****s are kind enough to do the same about the US.
Hahaha, my daddy can beat up your daddy.


So you are a fat bastard who's just jelous of other countries skinny people.

I'll make sure to quit generalizing about other countries since you ****s are kind enough to do the same about the US.

We haven't generalised about the US, just pointed out that it has massive obesity levels. The fact that you are a fat twat makes no differance.

gummo
22nd July 2004, 20:14
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 08:07 PM
Hahaha, my daddy can beat up your daddy.


So you are a fat bastard who's just jelous of other countries skinny people.

I'll make sure to quit generalizing about other countries since you ****s are kind enough to do the same about the US.

We haven't generalised about the US, just pointed out that it has massive obesity levels. The fact that you are a fat twat makes no differance.
You must be in good shape! You'r digging like a champ!

Lemme guess, your that guy that walks around with a leave blower in the mall parking lot. Being too poor to feed yourself is nothing to brag about. Gimme your address and I'll start sending you the ends of the loafs of bread I buy.

Louis Pio
22nd July 2004, 20:18
Lemme guess, your that guy that walks around with a leave blower in the mall parking lot. Being too poor to feed yourself is nothing to brag about. Gimme your address and I'll start sending you the ends of the loafs of bread I buy.

For a guy who quite obviously is so young he lives with mommy and daddy that's a very pompous statement.

gummo
22nd July 2004, 20:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 08:18 PM

For a guy who quite obviously is so young he lives with mommy and daddy that's a very pompous statement.
Sorry, I don't live in Europe, I live in the US and don't live with mommy and daddy.

Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 20:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 07:57 PM

Okay....now what? :lol:

Winter

G S B Total
1. Germany 12 16 7 35
2. Norway 11 7 6 24
3. United States of America 10 13 11 34
4. Russian Federation 6 6 4 16
5. Canada 6 3 8 17
6. France 4 5 2 11
7. Italy 4 4 4 12
8. Finland 4 2 1 7
9. Netherlands 3 5 0 8
10. Switzerland 3 2 6 11
11. Croatia 3 1 0 4
12. Austria 2 4 11 17
13. China 2 2 4 8
14. Korea 2 2 0 4
15. Australia 2 0 0 2
16. Spain 2 0 0 2
17. Estonia 1 1 1 3
18. Czech Republic 1 0 1 2
19. Great Britain 1 0 1 2
20. Sweden 0 2 4 6
21. Bulgaria 0 1 2 3
22. Japan 0 1 1 2
23. Poland 0 1 1 2
24. Belarus 0 0 1 1
25. Slovenia 0 0 1 1

Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/winterolympics2002/hi/english/static/winter_olympics/statistics/collated_medal_table.stm)


Summer

COUNTRY GOLD SILVER BRONZE TOTAL
======= ==== ====== ======
United States 39 25 33 97
Russia 32 28 28 88
China 28 16 15 59
Australia 16 25 17 58
Germany 14 17 26 57
France 13 14 11 38
Italy 13 8 13 34
Cuba 11 11 7 29
Britain 11 10 7 28
Korea 8 9 11 28
Romania 11 6 9 26
Netherlands 12 9 4 25
Ukraine 3 10 10 23
Japan 5 8 5 18
Hungary 8 6 3 17
Belarus 3 3 11 17
Poland 6 5 3 14
Canada 3 3 8 14
Bulgaria 5 6 2 13
Greece 4 6 3 13
Sweden 4 5 3 12
Brazil 0 6 6 12
Spain 3 3 5 11
Norway 4 3 3 10
Switzerland 1 6 2 9
Ethiopia 4 1 3 8
Czech Republic 2 3 3 8
Kazakhstan 3 4 0 7
Kenya 2 3 2 7
Jamaica 0 4 3 7
Denmark 2 3 1 6
Indonesia 1 3 2 6
Mexico 1 2 3 6
Georgia 0 0 6 6
Lithuania 2 0 3 5
Slovakia 1 3 1 5
Algeria 1 1 3 5
South Africa 0 2 3 5
Belgium 0 2 3 5
Morocco 0 1 4 5
Chinese Taipei 0 1 4 5
Iran 3 0 1 4
Turkey 3 0 1 4
Finland 2 1 1 4
Uzbekistan 1 1 2 4
New Zealand 1 0 3 4
Argentina 0 2 2 4
North Korea 0 1 3 4
Austria 2 1 0 3
Azerbaijan 2 0 1 3
Yugoslavia 1 1 1 3
Latvia 1 1 1 3
Thailand 1 0 2 3
Estonia 1 0 2 3
Nigeria 0 3 0 3
Slovenia 2 0 0 2
Bahamas 1 1 0 2
Croatia 1 0 1 2
Moldova 0 1 1 2
Trinidad & Tobago 0 1 1 2
Saudi Arabia 0 1 1 2
Costa Rica 0 0 2 2
Portugal 0 0 2 2
Mozambique 1 0 0 1
Cameroon 1 0 0 1
Colombia 1 0 0 1
Uruguay 0 1 0 1
Ireland 0 1 0 1
Vietnam 0 1 0 1
Macedonia 0 0 1 1
Kuwait 0 0 1 1
Kyrgyzstan 0 0 1 1
Armenia 0 0 1 1
Iceland 0 0 1 1
India 0 0 1 1
Barbados 0 0 1 1
Chile 0 0 1 1
Israel 0 0 1 1
Qatar 0 0 1 1
Sri Lanka 0 0 1 1
Now what? #1 in summer, # 3 in Winter

Only one in top 3 of both, # 1 overall total.

So I am correct.

Thanks, Disgustpated.

Sabocat
22nd July 2004, 20:47
Actually, if you consider Europe as one, with similar overall population to the U.S., you'll find that Europe as a whole does much better than the U.S.

I don't think it would be fair to expect a country of 60 million or less to compete against a country of 300 million do you?

Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 20:49
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 08:47 PM
Actually, if you consider Europe as one, with similar overall population to the U.S., you'll find that Europe as a whole does much better than the U.S.

I don't think it would be fair to expect a country of 60 million or less to compete against a country of 300 million do you?
Actually, I would, because the number of competitiors that represent each nation is relatively similar, do you agree?

Sabocat
22nd July 2004, 20:54
But drawn from a much smaller pool of athletes, do you agree?

Louis Pio
22nd July 2004, 20:57
Sorry, I don't live in Europe, I live in the US and don't live with mommy and daddy.

Well from reading your posts I thought you was around 13 maybe 15 so I guessed you lived with your parents. If you are older and live by yourself I appologise because then you have serious problems with your low IQ :D

gummo
22nd July 2004, 21:11
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 08:57 PM

Well from reading your posts I thought you was around 13 maybe 15 so I guessed you lived with your parents. If you are older and live by yourself I appologise because then you have serious problems with your low IQ :D
I am real concerned with what you guess my age to be.

Louis Pio
22nd July 2004, 21:13
Well you should be. When most people write you off as a little kid because of your childish posts you have a problem.

Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 21:50
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 08:54 PM
But drawn from a much smaller pool of athletes, do you agree?
To that I can agreee, but that is somewhat offset by the fact that in the US, all olympians have to be amature, and from what I understand a lot of European nations actually pay their olympians.

Thus, often the very best Americans are taken up by pro sports on the 1st place

Sabocat
23rd July 2004, 10:09
To that I can agreee, but that is somewhat offset by the fact that in the US, all olympians have to be amature

It's not so much that they are paid, but they are sponsored by their countries, which pick up the tab for lodging, transportation and training.

As far as the U.S. team being strictly amateur, I don't think that's the case anymore. Remember the U.S. Olympic "Dream Team" basketball team? Michael Jordan, Majic Johnson, Larry Bird.... hardly amateurs.

Also, I believe the U.S. hockey team is now mostly made up of pro hockey players, who ironically are mostly Canadian. :lol:

Years ago, an NFL football player was on the U.S. bobsled team because of his sprinting abilities.

Y2A
23rd July 2004, 10:16
Even the pinkos on this board have to admit that this is just wrong. Spitting on Armstrong just because he's an American and they are French.

Why can't the people that support this action just admit that they don't believe in "communism" "trotskyism" etc.... they just hate America in any way, shape, or form. It goes beyond politics.

Sabocat
23rd July 2004, 10:24
If you read at the beginning of this thread. Armstrong made it pretty clear that the worst offenders were the German fans, not the French. I suspect it is because Armstrong is beating the favored German (Ullrich) racer......again.

But, yes, spitting on Armstrong is wrong. He's just an athlete. It is however easy to understand the anti-American sentiment in Europe though. Especially in "Old" Europe as Rumsfeld so rediculously named them.

Y2A
23rd July 2004, 10:30
Actually this happened last year aswell. And it was the french then.

Also, most U.S olympians are amateurs. The dream team is long dead, no actual MLB players play for the national team, and all the other things are gay individual sports that nobody gives a damn about. Figure skating a sport! The ancient greeks would have looked down on this piece of crap.

Revolt!
23rd July 2004, 10:49
All prejudice is wrong. Anyone doing this to this fantastic athelete is wrong.

Y2A
23rd July 2004, 10:52
The funny thing is you and I both know that if this were an American event and it happened to a frenchmen, then there would be like 50 threads titled "AmeriKKKan pigs spit on athlete".

Sabocat
23rd July 2004, 10:54
Even marathon runners receive cash prizes for the major marathons, but are still allowed to keep their "amateur" standing. So it's not as pure amateur sport as it used to be unfortunately.



and all the other things are gay individual sports that nobody gives a damn about

Gay individual sports as opposed to heterosexual individual sports? I wasn&#39;t aware that they had seperated them that way. <_<

Actually, all of the original Greek Olympic Games were individual sport. Team sport is a relatively new concept in the Games.

gummo
23rd July 2004, 13:48
Sounds like this going to be lances last tour. No matter what nationality you are you have to give this guy some credit.

Louis Pio
23rd July 2004, 13:58
He&#39;s a good athlete. And he&#39;s not an arrogant prick. So yeah I give him credit.

Capitalist Imperial
23rd July 2004, 20:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 10:54 AM
Even marathon runners receive cash prizes for the major marathons, but are still allowed to keep their "amateur" standing. So it&#39;s not as pure amateur sport as it used to be unfortunately.




Gay individual sports as opposed to heterosexual individual sports? I wasn&#39;t aware that they had seperated them that way. <_<

Actually, all of the original Greek Olympic Games were individual sport. Team sport is a relatively new concept in the Games.
LOL, and a lot of the old greek games were truly gay. Men covered in olive oil wrestling naked? :lol:

Pawn Power
23rd July 2004, 21:48
this whole thread went crazy
how does the amount of medals indicate the success of a nation?

Capitalist Imperial
23rd July 2004, 22:25
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 09:48 PM
this whole thread went crazy
how does the amount of medals indicate the success of a nation?
It doesn&#39;t.

I was really responding to a post that America was "the world&#39;s fattest nation". Its probably true, but then you have to look at the other side too. We are also a very active and hard-working nation. Yeah, we like to eat, but we also work very hard and play very hard, and there is plenty of muscle under the fat as well.

Thats all I&#39;m saying.